Hi @bazanar collecting furniture plans can be frustrating at times.

[Design: Melon, Wax] this is a Murkmire Green, it does NOT come from the Mukrmire Envelope and must be farmed/bought. My strategy was to steal in the crafting hall on several characters or take one on a loop of Lilmoth and Bright-Throat stealing. There isn't a great non-stealing place to farm in Murkmire. Funny thing is that Murkmire Green plan are worth SO much more than the blue/purple because of this.

You mention 3 more Murkmire greens - same thing as above.

[Blueprint: Common Campfire, Outdoor] - in the files but no source aka unobtainable


[Blueprint: Witches Brazier, Primitive Log] - in files but no source aka unobtainable
[Blueprint: Witches Totem, Antler Charms] - in files but no source aka unobtainable

[Praxis: Khajiit Brazier, Enchanted] ONLY comes from the reward boxes from the Elsweyr Prologue dailies (the ones you get up in the north part of Grahtwood near the gate to Elsweyr)


Are these also ones you haven't been able to get from the basic Envelopes? I had them all before the Envelopes were released, but they techinically should be in those but you might get them cheaper off of guild stores.
[Diagram: Redguard Cannister, Gilded]
[Diagram: Redguard Censer, Hanging Bell]
[Diagram: Redguard Censer, Hanging Horn]
[Diagram: Redguard Spittoon, Gilded]
[Praxis: Redguard Bowl, Gilded]
[Pattern: Redguard Mat, Meditation]
[Pattern: Redguard Mat, Sunrise]


Ayleid and Dwarven - these are TERRIBLE to farm, you are better off farming gold and watching tamrieltradecentre.com for postings and paying for them. I wish we had "Ancient Empire" Envelopes. These are just really really really hard to get yourself as you seem to have found out. I bought the tall Ayleid bookcase/shelf for 5million just before Summerset because I was so damn frustrated farming for it. Then last witches fest I got super lucky and had the short bookcase/shelf drop while I was farming for plunder skulls. The vast majority of the Dwarven ones I bought from guild stores.

[Praxis: Ayleid Bookcase, Cluttered]
[Praxis: Ayleid Bookshelf, Cluttered]
[Diagram: Ayleid Brazier, Fiery]
[Praxis: Dwarven Table, Refined]
[Design: Dwarven Candlestick, Orrery]
[Formula: Dwarven Lamppost, Powered]
[Formula: Dwarven Lantern, Oil]
[Formula: Dwarven Sconce, Barred]
[Formula: Dwarven Sconce, Powered]
[Diagram: Dwarven Engine, Switch]
[Diagram: Dwarven Engine, Turbine]
[Diagram: Dwarven Pew, Refined]
[Diagram: Dwarven Pipeline, Full Column]
[Diagram: Dwarven Boiler, Central]
[Diagram: Dwarven Chandelier, Barred]
[Diagram: Dwarven Chandelier, Braced]
[Diagram: Dwarven Engine, Fan]
[Praxis: Dwarven Altar, Stairs]
[Praxis: Dwarven Bookcase, Full]
[Praxis: Dwarven Platform, Steps]
[Praxis: Dwarven Table, Assembly]

Best of luck obtaining these!

I am only missing 5 from the pre-Greymoor selection but haven't felt like paying for any of them lately.
Ayleid Brazier, Fiery
Dwarven Lantern, Oil
Dwarven Pew, Refined
Dwarven Sconce, Barred
Khajjit Brazier, Enchanted

bazanar wrote: »

Thanks a lot for the explanation.


do you know in which envelope would this plans drop?

Are these also ones you haven't been able to get from the basic Envelopes? I had them all before the Envelopes were released, but they techinically should be in those but you might get them cheaper off of guild stores.
[Diagram: Redguard Cannister, Gilded]
[Diagram: Redguard Censer, Hanging Bell]
[Diagram: Redguard Censer, Hanging Horn]
[Diagram: Redguard Spittoon, Gilded]
[Praxis: Redguard Bowl, Gilded]
[Pattern: Redguard Mat, Meditation]
[Pattern: Redguard Mat, Sunrise]

if they drop from an envelope i would prefer to use them. its always exciting to see what comes.


I saved like 7000 vouchers for the skyrim envelope. but a guildie told me that the envelope usually comes way later.

Those plans, and any other from the base game might be found in envelopes sold by Rolis - blue plans in Hlaalu Journeyman Furnisher's Document and purple ones from Hlaalu Master Furnisher's Document.

Here's a link to a list of all possible plans the purple ones might hold.