I have already cured my main healer. I don't want to experiment with killing my guildies in Trials and raids however, I will leave my magblade as a vampire. It's mainly a thief/assassin so it can be used for experimentation and exploring the new skill line. If I find through my own experience that the vampire is more fun, or workable than all the raging/hype has made it out to be, I'll take a decision on my other mag alts that are a range of races and classes. Most of them are healers so the jury is still out.

I'll be curing all my vampires except the stealthy ones.

I might drop it entirely. Or maybe just drop it to stage one and goof around with it in the overworld where it doesn't really matter what you do. Haven't decided yet.

Really, the only thing stopping me from curing it right now is knowing that if they decide to buff/rework it in the future (which I'm not actually expecting to happen anytime soon, if ever) it'll save me the trouble of hunting down another bite.

I will cure on all but one of them.

I see a lot of people also going to cure their vamps. I also see a lot of good ideas to help vamps along when the new dlc drops. Having a different key for blade of woe and vamps would be very welcome. I never tried a tank vamp as being vulnerable to fire and resisting damage didn't make sense to me. Kinda goes against tank meta if you chose to make yourself vulnerable. Even when vamps have those low health buffs, I feel a good tank shouldn't let their health bar drop sharply at all or you aren't doing your job well.

Being a vamp and getting the feeling of a glass cannon sounds like the closest to a real vamp. But now you lose your sustain and leave yourself to get that "Low Resources" warning a lot more on your screens. Granted some vamp skills use health as a resource too so there's an option. Learn to work those in your rotations and you wont lose much. I opt out of it because I see it as a nerf. Thanks for the replies guys. Your opinions are welcome especially if devs ever want to make a game and perhaps fix reliability of the base game. (Still waiting to see them fix the running on the back of the mount animation. That literally made my wife say "You call this an impressive game while you run on the back of your horse?")

Already did. Necro sustain sucks ass as it is without any skill cost increase.

I'm going to stay as a stage 1 vampire simply because I like the appearance and that has always been my motivation for being one.

Uryel wrote: »

Ah man, I'm not gonna make friends with that, but damn, it feels good to see all those meta boys crossed by the vampire changes.

The same that were all "deal with it, git gud" when the racial changes ripped stealth out of the bosmers. The same that were saying "it has no purpose in trial, so who cares". And now their default multipurpose go-to skill line for sustain becomes an actual, meaningful skill line, and they throw a tantrum. Poor little things.

First time in two years I'm saying this, but I kinda like this update. Not for the fact it upsets all the " Elder Spreadsheet Online", that's just added bonus, but it's going to make vampires interesting to play instead of just a gimmick. I might turn more characters into vamps.

It's not becoming "meaningful" by stripping the reason people wanted it out. It's actually worse in a certain sense as it punishes lower level characters by costing them skill slots they need for raising their class skills. It's actually liable to create even more elitism, so have fun with that, I guess.

I'm going to cure my stam vamps, which sucks because I fricking love the stage 2 vamp look. Why couldn't they have stage 1 without penalties... why :'(

Sange13 wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

I'd say they were quite successful in achieving what they set out to do.

Think about it. If you've got a ton of people just taking vampire by default for the recovery passive and ignoring the rest of it, then it's only natural that there would be a lot of them curing themselves after the rework and the passive goes away. It essentially reset the decision of being a vampire. So think of it more like making that decision for the first time. Do you want your character to be a vampire?

What an arbitrary and asinine thing for a dev team to do. That's like saying that too many people take Light Armor for the passive spell pen, so we're going to rework it and remove that so now people have to "reset their decision" about playing magicka dps. Completely horrible grounds for making these changes.

Sure, except that people taking the spell pen passive are probably wearing light armor. You know, because it doesn't work unless you are wearing five pieces of light armor. That wasn't really the case with vampirism. You got the regen because, well, because you put a point in it and that was it really. It would be like getting that spell penetration even though there's not a single stitch of light armor on you.

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Did I cured my WW when they got gutted and remained use-less for 1 year + ? Nope. I did not gave up. Now I am being rewarded for this.

I plan to do the same for my Vamp character. Not give up and build around vamp.

Did your WW put debuffs on you even if you didn't used it or could you sleep on it?

technohic wrote: »

Before y'all cure yourselves; someone give me a bite. I'm stuck in combat and am frustrated enough to take the 50% sprint cost reduction alone just to get around

Use Race Against Time from the Psijic Order skill line. Its additional speed and immobilization/snare immunity without the penalties of -100% health regeneration, 20% flame, 12% additional ability costs, and 20% more damage from Fighter's guild abilities. Can also make speed pots that restore stamina.