Cyber bulling, hate speech, toxicity, ignorance, off topics - ENOUGH!

deleted008293 · May 2020

Did you know that people altered custom titles addon to share it in a smaller closed community to harass others right?

mairwen85 · May 2020

nordmarian wrote: »

Did you know that people altered custom titles addon to share it in a smaller closed community to harass others right?

I don't think I actually care, but I'll bite. How are they harassing others? Offensive terminology, name calling, or direct attacks?

There are built in tools for policing that kind of thing.

I hope this thread is locked soon for your benefit

SmukkeHeks · May 2020

You need a hug. Here ❤️

deleted008293 · May 2020

Naming and shaming, introducing additional lines in the code thus adding custom titles to people without their knowledge and distributing the modified add-on within a smaller community, promoted as being a beta version etc, usually toxic. Baiting, tricking, deceiving and promoting elitism among a small team that often isn't anywhere close to any sort of professionalism, trying to lure people to join their team. etc. And we all know how this addon is sneakily introduced and packed with other various addons. So yes I want this addon terminated. Sorry devs and users.

Long before you will say that my performances maybe weren't good enough. I want to say that this team invited me on pts server back in 2018 for 2 raids on pts. Then simply pushed me away right on my birthday. Then tricked my friend into joining them and split us causing me an endless drama as for few months we barely had time to even talk 5 minutes because of this. Then started to name and shame me both as a player and as a person over 2 raids which ended up horrible wrong. Then I was called a stalker for asking about their performances. I was simply curious how 2 of the world best tanks who replaced me... couldn't help them out. Then I figured out. They needed someone to use because one of their guys didn't wanted to join PTS. Then they needed someone to use because they needed people in their team. Then they needed someone to use and blame to hide their own flaws and performance issues. There was no professionalism but only toxicity and elitism and this addon only promoted that. When I fought back I was publicly shamed in their team... so my friend decided it was time to leave. She gave me tokens to change my name and we moved on na for a while. And people continued to harass us over there as well. So why you couldn't just leave us be?

LuxLunae · May 2020

andreasv wrote: »

LuxLunae wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

nordmarian wrote: »

It all started because elitism, toxicity and greed. I ended up too early in end game scene and often I used to carry a lot of players for free which some end game players did not agree because they were losing a lot of money. Things degenerated as some of those players were in most of those teams I used to raid back in the days. I complained and things got out of my hand.
I often pointed out but no one tried to do a thing.
One more thing that really affected me is this custom titles add-on which I often filed to be taken offline by ZOS and they ignored this situation. The sole purpose some people used this is to bait people, harass, deceive and promote elitism. Same elitism that caused me some drama with my friend which led her to leave eso in the first place.

Speaking frankly, I think it's time to relinquish the martyrdom and victim mentality. Take a break, a few weeks away, take some time to reconnect with yourself and the world in general. Just stop the near obsessive and repetitive posting of the same stuff accompanied with the melodramatics, you're not helping yourself, and certainly not others this way.

I did this I took a break from the internet for 2 months only using it to look at my emails and slack. I found i had more time to be productive. I was doing things I didn't know I could. Now I have a good rhythm.

Wake up at 4 am
4-5 am exersize ( should be 30 mins but I gotta take breaks some times lol)
5-7 am (play, watch news, eat, etc.)
7- 9am (plan the day out, do some stuff from the last day)
9am-5 pm ( Dedicated work, 1 hr lunch break, two 15 hr breaks)
5-6 pm ( close out the dedicated work)
6-10 pm (PLLAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY)

Weekends (PLLLLLLLAAAAAAYYYYYY... unlesss I want to work on my dedicated work...building software... the weekdays i learn and build the software lol...at some point it just becomes another brain game and it feels so good solving the problems I can do it forever...but like FRICTION, you gotta put a lot more energy in to get the ball rolling from rest...)

How did you manage to squeeze in 30 hours break time into a 24 hour day? What planet are you on / from - be honest!

lol woops i meant 15 minutes XD.

D3N7157 · May 2020

How many threads are you going to make before you actually quit 10? 20?

Rake · May 2020

LuxLunae wrote: »

andreasv wrote: »

LuxLunae wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

nordmarian wrote: »

It all started because elitism, toxicity and greed. I ended up too early in end game scene and often I used to carry a lot of players for free which some end game players did not agree because they were losing a lot of money. Things degenerated as some of those players were in most of those teams I used to raid back in the days. I complained and things got out of my hand.
I often pointed out but no one tried to do a thing.
One more thing that really affected me is this custom titles add-on which I often filed to be taken offline by ZOS and they ignored this situation. The sole purpose some people used this is to bait people, harass, deceive and promote elitism. Same elitism that caused me some drama with my friend which led her to leave eso in the first place.

Speaking frankly, I think it's time to relinquish the martyrdom and victim mentality. Take a break, a few weeks away, take some time to reconnect with yourself and the world in general. Just stop the near obsessive and repetitive posting of the same stuff accompanied with the melodramatics, you're not helping yourself, and certainly not others this way.

I did this I took a break from the internet for 2 months only using it to look at my emails and slack. I found i had more time to be productive. I was doing things I didn't know I could. Now I have a good rhythm.

Wake up at 4 am
4-5 am exersize ( should be 30 mins but I gotta take breaks some times lol)
5-7 am (play, watch news, eat, etc.)
7- 9am (plan the day out, do some stuff from the last day)
9am-5 pm ( Dedicated work, 1 hr lunch break, two 15 hr breaks)
5-6 pm ( close out the dedicated work)
6-10 pm (PLLAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY)

Weekends (PLLLLLLLAAAAAAYYYYYY... unlesss I want to work on my dedicated work...building software... the weekdays i learn and build the software lol...at some point it just becomes another brain game and it feels so good solving the problems I can do it forever...but like FRICTION, you gotta put a lot more energy in to get the ball rolling from rest...)

How did you manage to squeeze in 30 hours break time into a 24 hour day? What planet are you on / from - be honest!

lol woops i meant 15 minutes XD.

I liked 15h breaks version better

MartiniDaniels · May 2020

I think this movie might help. I'm not sure if there is English version which keeps original depth (and humor) intact. It is really good movie, I remember me and my best friend were really down on luck in our youth and when we watched it, it really helped to change our life perception for better and find mental strength to make it better in reality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqLsh88GYKc

mairwen85 · May 2020

nordmarian wrote: »

Naming and shaming, introducing additional lines in the code thus adding custom titles to people without their knowledge and distributing the modified add-on within a smaller community, promoted as being a beta version etc, usually toxic. Baiting, tricking, deceiving and promoting elitism among a small team that often isn't anywhere close to any sort of professionalism, trying to lure people to join their team. etc. And we all know how this addon is sneakily introduced and packed with other various addons. So yes I want this addon terminated. Sorry devs and users.

Long before you will say that my performances maybe weren't good enough. I want to say that this team invited me on pts server back in 2018 for 2 raids on pts. Then simply pushed me away right on my birthday. Then tricked my friend into joining them and split us causing me an endless drama as for few months we barely had time to even talk 5 minutes because of this. Then started to name and shame me both as a player and as a person over 2 raids which ended up horrible wrong. Then I was called a stalker for asking about their performances. I was simply curious how 2 of the world best tanks who replaced me... couldn't help them out. Then I figured out. They needed someone to use because one of their guys didn't wanted to join PTS. Then they needed someone to use because they needed people in their team. Then they needed someone to use and blame to hide their own flaws and performance issues. There was no professionalism but only toxicity and elitism and this addon only promoted that. When I fought back I was publicly shamed in their team... so my friend decided it was time to leave. She gave me tokens to change my name and we moved on na for a while. And people continued to harass us over there as well. So why you couldn't just leave us be?

I'm going to say what I've said before. Don't let this permeate your life outside of the game. Put it down for a while. Let the dust settle and whatever egos, or interpersonal issues are at play dissipate -- find something productive to do with your time and energy that isn't focused on one person or a single group of people. Its rough, and not easy, but at a certain point you need to stop giving a f*ck about what others think about you, and instead work on how you react/respond to situations. Respect yourself, remove yourself from the situation, and take the time to just do what you want for a time. Learn to be without anyone else; don't validate yourself by who you're with or who wants to be with you... you know.

Weesacs · May 2020

OP I used to get annoyed with people in game. Then I grew up, matured and realised it was thier problem. I get hate tell and constant tbagged in PvP however you know what ... who cares. It's all down to perspective. Once you realise that they aren't worth it and practice ignoring them things become easier. Trust me, I've been where you are right now. (39 year old veteran MMO player speaking here ☺).

If you are being harassed? Just report them, it's easy to do. I've done it myself a few times and it works.

The last piece of advice I can tell you is that never fight an eye for an eye. You can't change people and fighting back makes things worst. Trust me when I tell you that it does take a bigger man to walk away. Everyone can fight back ... but what's the point? It becomes an endless loop.

Learn to laugh things off, don't take things too seriously and ignore toxic people. It takes time to practice but once you reach that place, you never look back and become a more calm and relaxed person.

Good luck 👍💪☺

Raisin · May 2020

You need to stop blaming others people. THEY didn't PUSH you to be this way. You know this topic has come up in your threads before and you got exposed. You got kicked from guilds for stalking and harassing girls to the point of making them feel unsafe. Your obsession with some people, especially your old friend is actually terrifying and so far removed from reality.
Stop trying to paint yourself as the victim and realize you have a seriously twisted perception of reality and need therapy so you can interact with people on a normal level and form lasting, healthy relationships. You need to talk to a professional, not offload your biased woes to strangers on the internet and beg random girls to ERP with you.

yunfangoldhag · May 2020

Everyone please stop engaging with @nordmarian 's threads, that are anyway breaking the Forum Rules. You can see he is really not well, and this is only worsening things... The more people are replying to him, the more he's going down his delusional road. Just report and move on.

@ZOS_AntonioP you should probably temporarily ban @nordmarian from posting in the forum.

LuxLunae · May 2020

nordmarian wrote: »

I'm 36 years old of stupidity living my whole life in a chair thanks to an accident. But thanks.

Just for future reference what age did you have the accident?

Usually in general, most people leave their homes and either work retail, go to college or make their own business. This is where they build their thick skin and see the world for what it is, the good and the bad. Most people are able to tune out the hate and go on with their lives. Some older people will try to put people down to make themselves feel better. Especially in retail.

Usually people who are starting out on the internet, or have not fully gotten out into the real world don't have this thick skin. It was further cut when we had this "i'm offended" culture take prominence robbing younger generations of developing resistance. (A simple argument in my city turns into a shootout because they don't know how to deal with their emotions in person. They escalate just like they do on the internet. This future is so bad. )

Usually below 23 they still think everything revolves around them since they are still so young and don't see that even if they have it bad, someone has it worse. This is because they haven't been exposed to everything yet. The future generation may not have empathy since they grew most of their lives on the internet and never really spoke face to face.

Around 26 is when most realize what had they were dealt and what they are going to do with them.

So when I tried to guess your age, i expected you to at lest taken one of the paths down and have experiences. However, you said you were in a chair all of your life so does that mean even when you were a child?

andreasv · May 2020

LuxLunae wrote: »

andreasv wrote: »

LuxLunae wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

nordmarian wrote: »

It all started because elitism, toxicity and greed. I ended up too early in end game scene and often I used to carry a lot of players for free which some end game players did not agree because they were losing a lot of money. Things degenerated as some of those players were in most of those teams I used to raid back in the days. I complained and things got out of my hand.
I often pointed out but no one tried to do a thing.
One more thing that really affected me is this custom titles add-on which I often filed to be taken offline by ZOS and they ignored this situation. The sole purpose some people used this is to bait people, harass, deceive and promote elitism. Same elitism that caused me some drama with my friend which led her to leave eso in the first place.

Speaking frankly, I think it's time to relinquish the martyrdom and victim mentality. Take a break, a few weeks away, take some time to reconnect with yourself and the world in general. Just stop the near obsessive and repetitive posting of the same stuff accompanied with the melodramatics, you're not helping yourself, and certainly not others this way.

I did this I took a break from the internet for 2 months only using it to look at my emails and slack. I found i had more time to be productive. I was doing things I didn't know I could. Now I have a good rhythm.

Wake up at 4 am
4-5 am exersize ( should be 30 mins but I gotta take breaks some times lol)
5-7 am (play, watch news, eat, etc.)
7- 9am (plan the day out, do some stuff from the last day)
9am-5 pm ( Dedicated work, 1 hr lunch break, two 15 hr breaks)
5-6 pm ( close out the dedicated work)
6-10 pm (PLLAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY)

Weekends (PLLLLLLLAAAAAAYYYYYY... unlesss I want to work on my dedicated work...building software... the weekdays i learn and build the software lol...at some point it just becomes another brain game and it feels so good solving the problems I can do it forever...but like FRICTION, you gotta put a lot more energy in to get the ball rolling from rest...)

How did you manage to squeeze in 30 hours break time into a 24 hour day? What planet are you on / from - be honest!

lol woops i meant 15 minutes XD.

Oh . . ***! Maybe I shouldn't have emailed my head of department demanding two 15hrs breaks every day. How do you recall emails?!

mairwen85 · May 2020

I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and outs of what spurned this thread or the others before it, but there's clearly a lot going on unseen. As i said in my first post, this is a personal issue masquerading as a PSA, and the deeper it goes, the more that gets exposed. As other posters filter in, the more puzzle pieces fall into place, and I really don't think I want to even know the full picture. It needs to be locked to protect OP from himself more than anything else. I just hope that OP has some self respect and dignity enough to leave that happen this time.

InaMoonlight · May 2020

@nordmarian, please don't let the toxic ones blind you for the lovely ones around, the obnoxious and toxic are always louder

MarzAttakz · May 2020

mairwen85 wrote: »

It needs to be locked to protect OP from himself more than anything else. I just hope that OP has some self respect and dignity enough to leave that happen this time.

Yep. In all honesty it seems a condition is preventing healthy self-preservation. I won't conjecture on what that condition may be but as you said earlier, OP needs to seek professional help.

Nemesis7884 · May 2020

people realy have to delete the words hate speech and toxicity out of their vocabulary...

on the other hand, helpful indicators that you know you can stop listening...never any fruitful discussion follows

and to the op - here is a serious life lesson that will improve yours drastically - many will learn it with age: If you do things - in game or in life - because your primary driver is the gratefulness of others - you are doing it wrong...it will only lead to disappointment and resentfulness (parents know what im talking about ^^). Your primary drive for anything should always be YOUR enjoyment and you will never regret anything...do things that are fun for as long as they are fun...thats all there is to life...

L_Nici · May 2020

Sounds like the story of my ingame life. I once got expelled shortly after the Co Leader from my own guild, because the second Co leader wanted all power for herself, she started to talk *** behind my back and before I even knew what was going on, the entire guild hated me and as I tried to fight back I was confronted with the claim I would be looking for attention and want to damage the guild. I was forced to leave the guild and following even the PvP campaign, because they weren't done with me leaving, they wanted me gone entirely. The guild was and is pretty big about 200 members at that time and every step I did on that campaign was accompanied by flame whispers and flaming in zonechat, they even went that far to report me with everyone they could get for a made up reason. They failed with that even though I was forced to contact the support, since they had no evidence they just flooded my name with reports.

Thats a few years back now and I am still feeling the echo of it, there are still many people that know my name, people I have never even met before and hate me for reasons that aren't true.
Since then I don't let people just talk *** about me, I counter with everything I have and don't care at all, what the people watching will think about it. I just stay to the facts and still many people despise me more than those who started talking ***.

mairwen85 · May 2020

L_Nici wrote: »

Sounds like the story of my ingame life. I once got expelled shortly after the Co Leader from my own guild, because the second Co leader wanted all power for herself, she started to talk *** behind my back and before I even knew what was going on, the entire guild hated me and as I tried to fight back I was confronted with the claim I would be looking for attention and want to damage the guild. I was forced to leave the guild and following even the PvP campaign, because they weren't done with me leaving, they wanted me gone entirely. The guild was and is pretty big about 200 members at that time and every step I did on that campaign was accompanied by flame whispers and flaming in zonechat, they even went that far to report me with everyone they could get for a made up reason. They failed with that even though I was forced to contact the support, since they had no evidence they just flooded my name with reports.

Thats a few years back now and I am still feeling the echo of it, there are still many people that know my name, people I have never even met before and hate me for reasons that aren't true.

Account name changes are free, you can do them any time on the main site account page.

L_Nici · May 2020

@mairwen85 I know, but it didn't solve anything, they still noticed who I am, so I gave up on changing ID and characternames especially because the later isn't very cheap on all chars...

mairwen85 · May 2020

L_Nici wrote: »

@mairwen85 I know, but it didn't solve anything, they still noticed who I am, so I gave up on changing ID and characternames especially because the later isn't very cheap on all chars...

They go out of their way to track you down? Or you just cross paths with random strangers who immediately persecute you?

VaranisArano · May 2020

As always, if you think what's been done constitutes breaking the TOS or Code of Conduct, report it to ZOS (and/or other relevant platforms.)

Telling the forums all about it is often cathartic, but the we in the peanut gallery can't actually do anything about your situation.

L_Nici · May 2020

@mairwen85 since I changed campaign I guess it happens by chance and just a few days back I got whispert by someone who noticed who I am and that person told me I am still on their "Black List". Just the fact that a random person tells me that shows how persistent those people are.

D3N7157 · May 2020

This stuff you should talk to with a therapist not on an online mmo game forum SMH my head

andreasv · May 2020

D3N7157 wrote: »

This stuff you should talk to with a therapist not on an online mmo game forum SMH my head

The hardest thing is to admit you're having a problem and start seeking professional help. It's the first step to a recovery but as I said, the hardest one.

deleted008293 · May 2020

This game does not allow you to change your @name and char names for free. And even if you do so. People can still track you down. The game UI is flawed to its core. I exposed this and some ppl didn't liked it. If you block someone lets say on one account then if that person will change his her id you will learn his her new identity in no time. And to make things even easier we all have the housing UI which allow you to add names on that list. This is what happened to me.

Changed my @name, all my char names and then in zone someone called me by my old ID. And if FREAKED ME OUT. And i started to do research and came to conclusion that those ppl learned about my id cos they had me or some of their friends had me on their block lists.

I asked zos that in case of such problems they should allow you an account transfer (copy) and thus those whom have you on their block list they couldn't track you down.

Lets not talk about RP pls because its what caused me and others some of the worst dramas in this game and it wasn't even me. I was triggered and tricked into. It was fun but it was too much and I want to stop that once and for all. Big waste of time and so on.

OtarTheMad · May 2020

I am really sorry for whatever it is you are going through. I fight some tough mental battles all the time and have made my fair share of mistakes. It's not easy.

All I can tell you, without going into a huge post, is that it's never too late to better yourself and change. Be strong.

D3N7157 · May 2020

andreasv wrote: »

D3N7157 wrote: »

This stuff you should talk to with a therapist not on an online mmo game forum SMH my head

The hardest thing is to admit you're having a problem and start seeking professional help. It's the first step to a recovery but as I said, the hardest one.

Better keep making threads on the forums so people keep making fun of you and keep playing a game that’s ruining your mental health, dude has to go he’s too weak for the internet. He lost the line between VR and RL
This is a time for professional therapy

deleted008293 · May 2020

Ik talking about help etc but I exposed some situations we should all just learn from!

I simply wanted to put all past behind and move on. new identity and hopefully i could continue to have that one friend who was always next to me. but all this feels like i will never get that chance ever again. (