Nemesis7884 wrote: »

I'd LOVE a new class - at the same time, since bards are a guild and guilds are usually implemented with a skill line i think that would make more sense...

I'd HATE a new class... but I would appreciate more guilds, starting with bards!
But... I would say that, would I not, considering the things I post:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/387560/additional-guild-ideas-mk-ii

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

That doesn't mean their music is magic.

No, it doesn't.
And honestly, I would be just as happy with a non-musical-magic bard guild skill line. Perhaps as something like a crafting skill, except you don't craft a thing, but instead a -performence-!

On the other hand... IF the powers that be wanted to make "musical magic", they could. The lore supports it, we even have some questings with that theme, be it a cursed spellsong putting people to sleep in Eastmarch so that rieklings can ambush 'em, or another cursed lute enthralling a whole isle in a spell that can only be broken with the right song... or a altmer in grahtwood looking for his wife and sending you a musical magic seeker spell to go and find her... well, or various dwemer tonal shennannigans.
The fact is, "musical magic" is a thing in the elder scrolls setting.
Do they want it to be a player skill thing?
Up to ZOS!

Bradyfjord wrote: »

Bard skill line would be be nice. Especially if we finally get the magic/melee hybrid skill some have also been asking for.

Yes!
In fact, I would think more weapon options for everyone would be even better then a bardic guild... though once again, I would say that, would I not, considering the other things I also post:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii/p1

Chaos2088 wrote: »

This is an MMO there are going to be new classes if you like it or not.

Wrong.
That is NOT neccessarily a thing for MMORPGs. Some do add new classes, others don't and add other things to breathe the always needed new life into their game.
ESO?
Well, that's up to ZOS!
I mean, it was no suprise they did some new classes... since they had rows of three in CharGen and the lower row "unfinished". But... now it is filled, and let's be honest, necromancer already felt a little "pulling things out of our ar... uhm... noses to fill the class".
And while of course any idea could maybe be streched into a whole class... it does wear thin, and most of the ideas left are more something for a skill line like the "Psijic" that came with Summerset.
And a great many more ideas are ill-thought of as they seem to be mentioned by people who never thought it through and realized that stuff like "monk" or "spellsword" would not work for a system with free weapons selection... (those would be some unarmed combat weapon skill line and a mixed melee/magic weapon skill line respectively)

So, we had the two new classes to fill the row in chargen, okay, and I really would like to see a lot more other new stuff... and never ever yet another class unless they actually go and do some class-change token, which they still have on numerous occasion spoken out against...

But, that IS up to ZOS, I can only say that as a player, I am nearing the point where I might give up if they make me make more alts just to try a new class again...

And thus I keep thinking up ways of how they could add nifty new stuff, but without getting to that point. New weapon skill lines, new guild skill lines, new races to play, new religions to follow, new character passives... and yeah, new classes but not as statting classes, but as "specializations" to branch out from the existing base classes - in my opinion, that would be a much better way to go, since ALL of that could be taken up by ANY character, no matter if newly made or played since launch, so... win-win for everyone? But I'd say so, wouldn't I?

@Nemesis7884 i respect that, but bards in TES really aren’t too different than most classes — I suppose if it were a skill line it could have some combative abilities. This is what I envision for bards in TES games:

Bard Skill Line

1. Calm: Reduces the damage of enemies by 5%.
(A) Frenzied Song: Increases the damage of you and your group by 5% but applies minor fracture and minor cowardice to your group.
(B) Encumbered Serenity: Reduces the damage of a single player by 5% for 3 seconds, and causes the enemy’s armor to weigh more, reducing enemy speed by 30%.

2. Clairvoyance: Summon a mote of light that anticipates and absorbs the next projectile casted at you.
(A). Blinding Clairvoyance: Summon a mote of light that builds in intensity for 4 seconds, at 4 seconds it explodes causing a single target to miss their melee attack and take x amount of magic damage.
(B) Healing Sight: Summon a mote of light that anticipates and absorbs the next projectile casted at you, if a projectile isn’t absorbed you or the lowest health party member restores 3000 health and 100 magicka and stamina

3. Paralyze: Stun an enemy in their tracks.
(A) Draining Stun: Stun an enemy in their tracks, when they break free heal for 2500 health.
(B) Alchemical Stun: Stun an enemy in their tracks, when enemy breaks free, the damage of your alchemical poisons are increased by 4% for 3 seconds.

4. Chameleon: Briefly become transparent and blend into the background, reducing the cost of sneak by 10% for 5 seconds.
(A) Enchanted Chameleon: Briefly become transparent and blend into the background. If attacking from stealth you have a chance to apply burning, concussed, chilled, diseased, or a poisoned status effect.
(B). Poisonous Shroud: Briefly become
transparent and blend into the background. When pulled out of a stealth by an attacker you put a leeching poison on them that deals x amount of poison damage, and restores 50 stamina per second for 6 seconds.

5. Sanctuary: Create an aura around your body that grants minor protection and minor heroism to you and one member in your party for 6 seconds.
(A): Black Winter: Create an aura around your body that deals x amount of frost damage every time you deal light or heavy attack damage for 6 seconds.
(B): Gentle Sanctuary: Create an aura around your body that heals you and up to 2 other party members, while the aura holds their healing is increased by 2%.

6. Tonal Destruction (Ultimate): Summon a Dwemer Tonal Fork that deals x amount of damage, causing the ground to split beneath your enemies and immobilizing enemies in a 8m radius.
(A). Tonal Rejuvenation: Summon a Dwemer Tonal Fork that increases your groups resource regeneration by 25% for 2 seconds.
(B). Tonal Shell: Summon a Dwemer Tonal Fork that applies a shield onto you and up to 12 allies, when the last shield is depleted it causes the ground to split open at that location immobilizing enemies at that location and dealing x amount of damage.

Obviously to get the tonal Dwemer fork would be part of the bard guild quest. The passives would still be similar to thief and brotherhood guilds. Allowing to maybe charm and epic quality item off an npc once a day, or use speechcraft to get out of fines, ect. Hell they could even add in NpC disposition and based upon whether they like you or not determines the item you get off them.

@TheShadowScout youre going to be disappointed because theres still a battlemage class asset that was datamined after the rerelease of the warden class. So there’s still one out there.