Vampires revamp is part of base game, you don't need to buy Greymoor chapter anyway.

And i have a feeling, that players mostly upset, because they lose almost free 660 wp/sp damage (more, if count buffs and crits), not about that they lose vampire skill.

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Yep idk why it is taking this change to show you not to buy anything...... Idk performance alone kept me from eso plus over a year and not buying graymore either. The only way they will actually fix performance is if people band together and not buy stuff (including their precious crown store that always works perfect and if not it is fixed right away) but the base game continues to run on spaghetti code.

We just need to spread out more. We only have ourselves to blame!

Jarrods32 wrote: »

Where did we lose the 660. Wp/sp

We technically didn't lose it but its not something you can leave on and power heal though. Cost increase by 20% per second is uncapped. Eventually it'll cost your whole Health pool to cast per second and then it turns off.

But mythic items!

BeefyMrTips wrote: »

Did we really need to nerf frenzy to literal death?

Lol what’s the point of updating vampire skills if we are back to only using one, maybe 2 skills from the line? I’d rather have my passives from old skill line than this. Why even buy greymoor at this point?

I can already see the comments.. “well then don’t buy greymoor”, lol I know and to be honest I don’t have a reason to, now.

Don't. Like, seriously if you aren't happy and don't want the other stuff, don't buy Greymoor. You speak with your wallet. I have refunded mine because they took what looked cool and needed some small tweaks and not such a harsh normal ability cost penalty, and completely destroyed it.

My reason for coming back was vampire changes. No point in playing any part or dropping the $130 on Greymoor & 6 month ESO plus if I'm not happy with that one bit.

navystylz_ESO wrote: »

BeefyMrTips wrote: »

Did we really need to nerf frenzy to literal death?

Lol what’s the point of updating vampire skills if we are back to only using one, maybe 2 skills from the line? I’d rather have my passives from old skill line than this. Why even buy greymoor at this point?

I can already see the comments.. “well then don’t buy greymoor”, lol I know and to be honest I don’t have a reason to, now.

Don't. Like, seriously if you aren't happy and don't want the other stuff, don't buy Greymoor. You speak with your wallet. I have refunded mine because they took what looked cool and needed some small tweaks and not such a harsh normal ability cost penalty, and completely destroyed it.

My reason for coming back was vampire changes. No point in playing any part or dropping the $130 on Greymoor & 6 month ESO plus if I'm not happy with that one bit.

I agree, I don’t understand the need to completely destroy. I’m hoping next patch they realize and address

Noxavian wrote: »

Sephyr wrote: »

BeefyMrTips wrote: »

navystylz_ESO wrote: »

BeefyMrTips wrote: »

Did we really need to nerf frenzy to literal death?

Lol what’s the point of updating vampire skills if we are back to only using one, maybe 2 skills from the line? I’d rather have my passives from old skill line than this. Why even buy greymoor at this point?

I can already see the comments.. “well then don’t buy greymoor”, lol I know and to be honest I don’t have a reason to, now.

Don't. Like, seriously if you aren't happy and don't want the other stuff, don't buy Greymoor. You speak with your wallet. I have refunded mine because they took what looked cool and needed some small tweaks and not such a harsh normal ability cost penalty, and completely destroyed it.

My reason for coming back was vampire changes. No point in playing any part or dropping the $130 on Greymoor & 6 month ESO plus if I'm not happy with that one bit.

I agree, I don’t understand the need to completely destroy. I’m hoping next patch they realize and address

They're not going to address anything next patch. Gina had already stated on the livestream today that the changes of PTS 6.0.3 are what's going to go live aside from bug fixing. She didn't even so much as show off any of the skills. Just "Oh, here's two feeding animations."

So much for the "Week of the Vampire".

Almost like they know the skills are *** tbh.

It took us THIS long to get any sorta actual blood scion-player promotional stuff....

It's downright exasperating. "We listened to feedback", uh-huh. And I own swampland in Arizona that I use for gator breeding. [Snip]

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xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

You do understand that gremoor grant access to antiquity system while vampire is just QoL improvement of base game available for everyone?

Only if you have the certain dlcs to complete getting all the mythic items.

This was poorly thought out or marketing to make moreee sales of the dlcs.

So to me Greymoor is not a complete chapter, as Summerset was for example.

You do understand that all crafting systems work like that, right? Crafted sets are released with zones and tied to that zone. You need access to them to craft the sets. This is the same thing. You get gear through a life skill like activity, and the gear you get is tied to the zone it's in. Jewelry Crafting was the same. If you wanted to make Rings a Necks of sets from older areas, you had to have the DLC or Chapter.

If you don't want to buy it, thats fine, you don't have to. It's also fine not to like it, you are not obligated to. But it is a complete chapter.

My opinion greymore does not offer enough to be considered a chapter this maybe the first chapter I won’t buy. The new feature is just a grindfest mini game and doesn’t seem fun at all. To get the so could OP mystic items it’s way to rng with what they did with undaunted chest and transmute stones thought they where lowing the amount of rng for gear

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Tessitura wrote: »

xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

You do understand that gremoor grant access to antiquity system while vampire is just QoL improvement of base game available for everyone?

Only if you have the certain dlcs to complete getting all the mythic items.

This was poorly thought out or marketing to make moreee sales of the dlcs.

So to me Greymoor is not a complete chapter, as Summerset was for example.

You do understand that all crafting systems work like that, right? Crafted sets are released with zones and tied to that zone. You need access to them to craft the sets. This is the same thing. You get gear through a life skill like activity, and the gear you get is tied to the zone it's in. Jewelry Crafting was the same. If you wanted to make Rings a Necks of sets from older areas, you had to have the DLC or Chapter.

If you don't want to buy it, thats fine, you don't have to. It's also fine not to like it, you are not obligated to. But it is a complete chapter.

@Tessitura no it's not. It is more like if you want to use a crafting station that came with say Elsweyr, but to craft a piece of gear on it you also have to go to Summerset, Wrothgar and Murkmire. If you don't own those dlcs you're put of luck and can't get that set. Further the existence of attuned crafting tables means that you don't actually need access to that dlc as long as you can get access to an attuned station with the set.
Which goes against what they've beem advertising their game as so far, that you only need to buy that specific dcl to be able to use its major feature. But here you need access to the whole game to get use of that system.
Oh and did I mention everything is bound. Because for crafted sets you you can get someone else to trade you stuff, not so here.

Alright, since you went out of your way to ping me for some reason, lets get into it. You are right, it isn't exactly the same, cause it's a whole new system, brand new, with no kind of standard to go off of. And like all systems in games, it generally interacts with more content then just the zone it showed up with. So I don't see how its a shock to you that it behaves like most other systems to gain gear.

You are able to use the major feature in this chapter, the SYSTEM, you have full access to, the gear that that system can get you requires you to go to certain zones. That gear is a retroactive addition to the game, editions to the older content, and the system is required to find it. But the system it's self you have access to, can level, and use.

You don't like the system? You don't like the zones? You don't like the Trial? Fine don't buy it, you shouldn't buy something you don't want or like. But to say there is no point, that the chapter isn't a full chapter is unfair and silly. It has everything a chapter needs to be a chapter. It fits what they advertise, which they don't explicitly advertise in the way that you claim in the first place. But it still fits that. Whether it's a good chapter or not is up to the consumer.I myself will probably not buy it until it goes on sale or something. But plenty of people will buy and enjoy the adventure, the trial, the antiquities, the harrowstorms, and the new gear sets.