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The Current State of ESO- In the perspective of a new palyer
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✭I started in closed beta. I just resubbed for another year. It is WELL worth it. You get the DLCs, a bunch of XP and storage boosts, and a ton of crowns. The craft bag is worth the cost itself. If you haven't already do the game as it was intended from starting in the Wailing Prison. Roll a new toon if needed. The overarching story is amazingly worth it!1 -
craybest✭✭✭✭✭i only mainly do solo questing in NA PVP an i've never had any issues. the few times i did gor o cyrodill, i didn't either, but it was less than 10 times probably.0 -
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✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Gamers love to bash what they love. Especially on official forums, where they feel they're more or less "talking to the devs".
That's one thing.
PC/NA runs smoother and better than PC/EU (higher population density, and perhaps less care from ZOS - at least, so say some).
However, it feels strange that you don't feel any performance issues in Cyrodiil, because anyone, good or bad, critical or not, will feel issues there (whether they consider them game-breaking or fun-breaking or not is another thing). It is said that most performance issues are caused by CP calculations. Many high-end PvP guilds play on non-CP campaigns for that reason : those campaigns run amazingly smoothly.
I believe this is the reason why you don't feel the issues : those issues are greatly exaggerated on forums, but they're there, and if you don't feel them, it's either because you play on no-CP campaigns, or because you have no CP yet yourself. Or both.
Glad you enjoy the game. That's the whole point :-)
Given that they started playing a week ago my guess is that they're running the below-50 campaign which in my experience is the only one of the permanent campaigns that runs decently. I'd love to hear what they have to say once they hit 50 and am forced into one of the others.
In fact I wonder how much high intensity combat OP has done and how stuff like the LA weaving abilities are.0 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭I'm having a severe case of Deja Vu. As in, I'd swear I've read this thread before.
Oh wait, I have: Don't let anyone say they're having a good time in the game, or that they're enjoying themselves in any way, or the devs will simply, and/or continue to, ignore us.
I have seen this before, wish I had a dime for every time I have seen it, I could buy out EA right now. I've even had players come right out and tell me that very thing. Hey, some people are having problems, some people aren't. Neither one invalidates the other. Not having issues doesn't "downplay" someone else's issues either. I'm not sure if it's funny, or sad, that this has to be qualified with things like "well, you're not playing in Cyrodill" or "Well, you're playing the wrong part of Cyrodill" etc. etc. etc. I just had a guy on the swtor forums tell me that I hadn't been playing the game long enough, despite having been around since Rise of the Hutt Cartel over there, and having at least 20 of 25 toons at cap, w/out buying level boosters. They gave one away for free over there, and I still have a slot for using it.
As mentioned in my earlier post here, I'm not having these issues. Stating that does not invalidate anyone that is, and nor is it trying to downplay anyone's experiences with the game. Pro tip: The devs aren't going to suddenly stop working on any issues that they are working on, just because I say that on the forums. In fact, it may actually help them if they look for feedback like system specs, ISP, addons used or not used, it's not like 3rd party software is always innocent of interfering with game performance, isn't there a thread right now about one that's doing exactly that by how it went about removing other player's pets from the game? Correlation =/= Causation, but all factors should, and need to be considered.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's mostly because you have not been to endcontent, yet. Questing works flawlessly and most people that spend money on TESO are probably questers which is the reason that many old players are afraid that ZoS is only catering new players who don't expect more from TESO than questing (solo).
Go to dungeons, trials or cyrodiil during primetime (especially at t he weekend) and you see for yourself.
The OP did say he had spent time PvPing in Cyrodiil without any issues and that it was the most enjoyable part of his game so he must have some experience of it.
He's hit the nail on the head. There often seem to be two different games, one represents the competitive playstyles, while the other represents the non-competitive playstyles, with some playstyles also representing a bit of both. You tend to see a lot of the former in the game, and more of the latter on the forum. Both give completely honest and legitimate assessments of their experiences in the game.Edited by Tandor on May 15, 2020 3:35PM4 -
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Yes, cyro performance has been riddled with bugs and lag since update 25. It has been the worst I have seen in over a half decade of playing.
No....Us long time PvP players are not exaggerating about performance a bit.
If you have only been playing over a week, then I cannot image that you even have a basic concept of PvP in ESO. Much less how things were before the performance update 25.
Is ESO+ is worth it for a new player, yes it is. Not just got the free items and craft bag but to get a head start on getting valuable mats and such.
It also will unlock some nice gear to farm and the large free room in Summerset. You can get many skill lines from the dlcs, as well.
Summerset has the jewelry crafting skill line and the Psijic skill line too.
I am glad that you’re having fun. Welcome to ESO and the Forums.
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Beaverton✭✭✭biologicwidth wrote: »So i started ESO a little over a week ago and so far i'm enjoying the game. The combat although different has grown on me. The PVE and questing is fun, but so far what I've been enjoying the most is my time PVPing in Cryodiil. I'm still only level 40 but even then it's still a lot of fun PVPing with different groups and participating in their discords (I've always enjoyed PVP the most in the different MMORPGs i've played).
I only have the base game + Marrowind, and I was thinking about getting ESO+. I was doing some research to see if it was worth subscribing and I was ultimately led to the forums... and boy does the community here paint a completely different picture of the state of ESO.
So the main complaints i keep seeing is server lag and server performance that will never get fixed... However, with my time playing I have not experienced this crippling, unplayable lag in cyrodiil. Sure I've had some spikes in ping and drop in FPS, but it was never to the point where it was unplayable (mind you i am on a NA PC server). Am I just lucky? or is this more of an issue for the EU servers and Console players? or is it because i'm not experienced enough to see the server lag?
Ultimately I am asking because I've been browsing the forums quite a bit the past few days, and sadly it makes me not want to subscribe, yet alone continue playing due to the fact that the developers does not care about PVP and its performance. Is all of this really true? or are you all just fake news :P.
I didn't see this in quickly scanning previous responses but it really depends on which campaign you are in. Icereach is generally pretty good in terms of the lag issues. Ravenwatch is a bit worse but is usually pretty good for me depending on server pop and group size and Greyhost is usually a hot mess with occasional periods of working well.
Chook (fill in the blank) or Chookana (likewise): I learn more by dying so teach me some more!0 -
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✭✭xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »
Is ESO+ is worth it for a new player, yes it is. Not just got the free items and craft bag but to get a head start on getting valuable mats and such.
It also will unlock some nice gear to farm and the large free room in Summerset. You can get many skill lines from the dlcs, as well.
Summerset has the jewelry crafting skill line and the Psijic skill line too.
Is ESO+ worth it? Yes, it is quite convenient.
Does ZOS deserve that money? No. Not from pvpers at least.
It all comes down to if you mind to be scammed or not.Edited by Vietfox on May 15, 2020 3:50PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭biologicwidth wrote: »So i started ESO a little over a week ago and so far i'm enjoying the game. The combat although different has grown on me. The PVE and questing is fun, but so far what I've been enjoying the most is my time PVPing in Cryodiil. I'm still only level 40 but even then it's still a lot of fun PVPing with different groups and participating in their discords (I've always enjoyed PVP the most in the different MMORPGs i've played).
I only have the base game + Marrowind, and I was thinking about getting ESO+. I was doing some research to see if it was worth subscribing and I was ultimately led to the forums... and boy does the community here paint a completely different picture of the state of ESO.
So the main complaints i keep seeing is server lag and server performance that will never get fixed... However, with my time playing I have not experienced this crippling, unplayable lag in cyrodiil. Sure I've had some spikes in ping and drop in FPS, but it was never to the point where it was unplayable (mind you i am on a NA PC server). Am I just lucky? or is this more of an issue for the EU servers and Console players? or is it because i'm not experienced enough to see the server lag?
Ultimately I am asking because I've been browsing the forums quite a bit the past few days, and sadly it makes me not want to subscribe, yet alone continue playing due to the fact that the developers does not care about PVP and its performance. Is all of this really true? or are you all just fake news :P.
Welcome to the game first off! Good thing you aren't getting those issues; maybe you're lucky! That being said, you don't have to decide here and now to subscribe or not.
PVP has long been an issue. If that's really important to you, play for a month or two before subbing. You may not experience these issues right away. Sooner or later though, you're gonna hit some bugs and problems. It's commonplace in games and certainly commonplace in this game. You're not guaranteed to experience them, but you could.
Furthermore, ESO+ is more beneficial if you're a PVEer and/or into crafting. Most of the new content is focused on PVE as well, so I just want you to understand that PVP doesn't seem like a priority. You should know that like most MMOs, this game is heavily monetized and ESO+ mitigates some of that. ZOS in general pushes their crown crates and deals aggressively, moreso than community engagement. It's not as bad some games, certainly nowhere near the worst, but there's still distasteful things.
I'd encourage you to not dive into the crown store until you're sure your experience is pleasurable. I'd also encourage you not to buy into the gambling crown store crates. They're really banking on new players like yourself to feed this monetization which takes away from improvements.
Spend money based on your experience. I subbed for the next year, and shortly thereafter the performance on this game went downhill. I have had whole characters bug out. My necromancer consistently experienced the skill lag so much that I just outright deleted the character. I've had logouts fail. I've had the Main Quest bug out - a 6 year old problem. If I had those problems when deciding to renew my subscription, I might not have made the same decision.
Ultimately though, I enjoy the game most of the time. I have a good group of friends, I complete most things without bugs, and only experience minor lag. Is this game broken? No. But the current state of the game needs a LOT of work. It's certainly impacting my desire to buy the expansion or the crown store goodies like I used to regularly do.Edited by Destai on May 15, 2020 5:22PM1 -
Mancombe_Nosehair✭✭✭✭✭pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
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TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »TineaCruris wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »PC NA performs pretty well.
Sometimes I hear people talking like the sky is falling and I think how smooth things have been for me. Then I have a day where I get booted 4 times, not even in Cyrodiil. And when I change zones in recent weeks I have like a 33% chance of being booted to the login screen.
No, PC NA DOES NOT perform well. Not unless your version of well is rubberbanding, roll backs, desyncs, skills not working, bars not swapping, stuck in combat, and health bar desync is "performs pretty well".
The people saying things are working well either don't play end game content or have some other motive for not reporting the situation accurately.
It would be pretty repetitive to do "endgame" content daily. No thanks.
Why would anyone run the same overland quests repeatedly? Isn't getting to end game content the objective? ....are we on different planets?0 -
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✭✭✭✭Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
I think it's fair to hold ZOS accountable and I think it's fair that incoming players know what they're getting into. Sure, this game is largely still playable but I don't think I can recommend it to anyone right now without first presenting its faults. That's only fair given how expensive this game is.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »
Is ESO+ is worth it for a new player, yes it is. Not just got the free items and craft bag but to get a head start on getting valuable mats and such.
It also will unlock some nice gear to farm and the large free room in Summerset. You can get many skill lines from the dlcs, as well.
Summerset has the jewelry crafting skill line and the Psijic skill line too.
Is ESO+ worth it? Yes, it is quite convenient.
Does ZOS deserve that money? No. Not from pvpers at least.
It all comes down to if you mind to be scammed or not.
If you know what PvP is like for you and still feel it's worthwhile to subscribe, then you are not being scammed.3 -
Mancombe_Nosehair✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »are we on different planets?
Judging by the bickering that goes on here, the answer to your question is yes.
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TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
The forum is the best place to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers....so you do have a point in one regard. But that is a circular argument given how this forum is such a good way to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers.1 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »TineaCruris wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »PC NA performs pretty well.
Sometimes I hear people talking like the sky is falling and I think how smooth things have been for me. Then I have a day where I get booted 4 times, not even in Cyrodiil. And when I change zones in recent weeks I have like a 33% chance of being booted to the login screen.
No, PC NA DOES NOT perform well. Not unless your version of well is rubberbanding, roll backs, desyncs, skills not working, bars not swapping, stuck in combat, and health bar desync is "performs pretty well".
The people saying things are working well either don't play end game content or have some other motive for not reporting the situation accurately.
It would be pretty repetitive to do "endgame" content daily. No thanks.
Why would anyone run the same overland quests repeatedly? Isn't getting to end game content the objective? ....are we on different planets?
For the same reason people PvP daily, despite all the "not playable"? Maybe it's the same reason people run dungeons or raids? It's not like endgame content is a constantly evolving environment, it's all "running the same things over and over". That's what progression raiding is, and always has been as well. Different strokes for different folks. So evidently we're not, because you're on this planet where there is no repeat content, and the rest of us are out here.0 -
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✭robertthebard wrote: »I'm having a severe case of Deja Vu. As in, I'd swear I've read this thread before.
Oh wait, I have: Don't let anyone say they're having a good time in the game, or that they're enjoying themselves in any way, or the devs will simply, and/or continue to, ignore us.
I have seen this before, wish I had a dime for every time I have seen it, I could buy out EA right now. I've even had players come right out and tell me that very thing. Hey, some people are having problems, some people aren't. Neither one invalidates the other. Not having issues doesn't "downplay" someone else's issues either. I'm not sure if it's funny, or sad, that this has to be qualified with things like "well, you're not playing in Cyrodill" or "Well, you're playing the wrong part of Cyrodill" etc. etc. etc. I just had a guy on the swtor forums tell me that I hadn't been playing the game long enough, despite having been around since Rise of the Hutt Cartel over there, and having at least 20 of 25 toons at cap, w/out buying level boosters. They gave one away for free over there, and I still have a slot for using it.
As mentioned in my earlier post here, I'm not having these issues. Stating that does not invalidate anyone that is, and nor is it trying to downplay anyone's experiences with the game. Pro tip: The devs aren't going to suddenly stop working on any issues that they are working on, just because I say that on the forums. In fact, it may actually help them if they look for feedback like system specs, ISP, addons used or not used, it's not like 3rd party software is always innocent of interfering with game performance, isn't there a thread right now about one that's doing exactly that by how it went about removing other player's pets from the game? Correlation =/= Causation, but all factors should, and need to be considered.
Except OP was dismissing, condescending as hell and told us all that it was fake news because they weren't affected. And playing this game on a good connection with a top notch PC and no addons are by no means a guarantee for not being hit by massive lag, desync and skills not firing.
And information have been posted for the devs ad nauseam over the years with... well we know how much result that's given us. Or maybe you'll argue that performance would be even worse without it?0 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭redgreensunset wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »I'm having a severe case of Deja Vu. As in, I'd swear I've read this thread before.
Oh wait, I have: Don't let anyone say they're having a good time in the game, or that they're enjoying themselves in any way, or the devs will simply, and/or continue to, ignore us.
I have seen this before, wish I had a dime for every time I have seen it, I could buy out EA right now. I've even had players come right out and tell me that very thing. Hey, some people are having problems, some people aren't. Neither one invalidates the other. Not having issues doesn't "downplay" someone else's issues either. I'm not sure if it's funny, or sad, that this has to be qualified with things like "well, you're not playing in Cyrodill" or "Well, you're playing the wrong part of Cyrodill" etc. etc. etc. I just had a guy on the swtor forums tell me that I hadn't been playing the game long enough, despite having been around since Rise of the Hutt Cartel over there, and having at least 20 of 25 toons at cap, w/out buying level boosters. They gave one away for free over there, and I still have a slot for using it.
As mentioned in my earlier post here, I'm not having these issues. Stating that does not invalidate anyone that is, and nor is it trying to downplay anyone's experiences with the game. Pro tip: The devs aren't going to suddenly stop working on any issues that they are working on, just because I say that on the forums. In fact, it may actually help them if they look for feedback like system specs, ISP, addons used or not used, it's not like 3rd party software is always innocent of interfering with game performance, isn't there a thread right now about one that's doing exactly that by how it went about removing other player's pets from the game? Correlation =/= Causation, but all factors should, and need to be considered.
Except OP was dismissing, condescending as hell and told us all that it was fake news because they weren't affected. And playing this game on a good connection with a top notch PC and no addons are by no means a guarantee for not being hit by massive lag, desync and skills not firing.
And information have been posted for the devs ad nauseam over the years with... well we know how much result that's given us. Or maybe you'll argue that performance would be even worse without it?
Who can blame them? Did you read the post immediately after the one you quoted here? Maybe it's confirmation bias, but when the very next post is "you haven't been playing long enough", it gets hard to sort fantasy from reality. Let's look at "the game's too easy" as an example: Instead of keeping the dialog in one thread, we have 4 or 5 spam threads on the same topic, with one of them most assuredly being spam, since it links to one of the other threads. I guess they felt like they were too important to keep the discussion there?
I'm not going to argue either way, but can you really sit here and say that it wouldn't be? Maybe it's that they had to move a lot of calculations server side because people couldn't be bothered to actually play, and just used cheats? In Neverwinter Nights, they had a script that fired "OnHeartbeat", it was actually like every 6 seconds, checking for x condition. Using this script would lag your server to no end, and if you ran multiples of it, it could become a slide show. Now imagine running that for every input by a player times however many players are there, making sure nobody's cheating. I can understand why that may cause some issues, and why it may effect some more than others. There may not be an easy solution to that, just on the hypothetical terms here, because if they removed the scripts that are checking for cheats, and it clears it up there are those that will just go back to cheating. It's not like we don't have at least one active thread of cheaters now, right?0 -
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✭xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »
Is ESO+ is worth it for a new player, yes it is. Not just got the free items and craft bag but to get a head start on getting valuable mats and such.
It also will unlock some nice gear to farm and the large free room in Summerset. You can get many skill lines from the dlcs, as well.
Summerset has the jewelry crafting skill line and the Psijic skill line too.
Is ESO+ worth it? Yes, it is quite convenient.
Does ZOS deserve that money? No. Not from pvpers at least.
It all comes down to if you mind to be scammed or not.
Wasn’t about that. The OP stated they have only been playing for a week plus.
For a new player a month of ESO+ is worth it.
1) They get to hoard mats that are very important in PvP and will save them gold. Especially with alchemy mats.
2) They will have access to some sets that are needed from arena weapons, monster helms, and gear.
3) They will have access to some important skill lines that are useful in PvP.
4) With the crowns for ESO+ given and if they smartly saved the 500 crown bonus gift....they have enough for the ‘any race alliance pack’. Again useful for PvP. If not they have enough for one of the starter packs to buff their mount speed and some other goodies.
5) They will have access to all the sky shards available, except one chapter. SPs are useful for your PvP builds.
I could go on what a new player could do with a month of ESO+
So for a new player I am not seeing your point or that of any player.
Is performance >:v very much so.
I play PvP 98% of my time. Have three accounts and play on both servers multiple platforms.
I am certainly not thrilled with the current state of things. Nonetheless I still play ESO for the PvP and because I enjoy it.
When stuff gets miserable with bugs and such, I simply play another PvP game. Of course that is after trying some minor voodoo spells to fix things
There are lots of employees that work on ESO and of course they deserve money.
Tbh, if you ever met any of them at the functions or the special events, you would know they actually are very passionate about ESO.Edited by xXMeowMeowXx on May 15, 2020 5:52PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
The forum is the best place to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers....so you do have a point in one regard. But that is a circular argument given how this forum is such a good way to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers.
Strict moderators aside, I think they're pretty reasonable in my experience. Every support experience I've had has been really positive.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
The forum is the best place to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers....so you do have a point in one regard. But that is a circular argument given how this forum is such a good way to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers.
The fact that ZOS run an official forum places them well above those game developers who don't bother and who just rely on Reddit and social media to communicate and inform.1 -
mav1234✭✭✭✭✭By and large, ESO is a fun game, especially for a new player. But the developers do not place a priority on the concerns of veteran players, from performance to game changes. This may just be perception due to how bad communication is from the developers. While a lot of the community management team are top notch and great here, it frequently feels that the developers have given up on communicating with their community.
For instance, last update group queues for instanced PvP (Battlegrounds) were removed. The developer note said they wanted to try an experiment with solo queue to see how it would impact MMR, queue times, and player enjoyment. We had huge threads on the PTS forum about it - hundreds of posts about it. We received no comment from developers during that time. The change went live to real servers, with a note they needed more data collection on the live environment.
That was several months ago. We have heard nothing. In the mean time, many guilds focused on BGs folded, many of us have lots of PvPer friends (between Cyrodill performance and group queue change), and still no comment at all from the developers. It would be nice to know what is happening with the experiment and whether it is something that is here to stay - which is wht one would expect from a game that c ares about its PvP community.0 -
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Ghnami✭✭✭Please save your money and do not spend it on this game. There are plenty of games for $20 and less that will be far more entertaining and give you much more enjoyment than ESO+ will.2
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✭Have you seen the current state of the stranglers in Vet Lair of Maarselok? That really needs to change. They are way too OP.2 -
Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭Depends who's in cyro..we can all be poplocked with no issues then later in the evening even with less players performance can be trash..
And today at 6am I was at 500 ping at an uncontested keep (i decided I'd rather watch TV than deal with it so I logged)0 -
TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
The forum is the best place to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers....so you do have a point in one regard. But that is a circular argument given how this forum is such a good way to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers.
Strict moderators aside, I think they're pretty reasonable in my experience. Every support experience I've had has been really positive.
I don't think the communication desert between ZOS and their customers is a reasonable or positive experience.
I don't think years of failing to address performance issues is a reasonable or positive experience.
...and then there is how things work on this forum.
When you look at the whole picture, you should look at the whole picture.Edited by TineaCruris on May 16, 2020 4:58PM2 -
TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭TineaCruris wrote: »Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »pantherfan69 wrote: »I worry about the negativity on the forums scaring new players off, and hope they remember that !
Yes, this is my main concern about the forum. If Zos feels that the forum no longer provides a benefit to the game, ie it scares new players off, then they will either ban a bunch of people, or shut the whole thing down.
There's just too much drama here these days, although it has calmed down a little bit. The OP should have been here a month ago; it was getting really out of hand.
The forum is the best place to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers....so you do have a point in one regard. But that is a circular argument given how this forum is such a good way to get a feel for how ZOS treats it's customers.
The fact that ZOS run an official forum places them well above those game developers who don't bother and who just rely on Reddit and social media to communicate and inform.
Huh? That's not accurate, and I don't understand why or how someone could think a communication desert between any company and their customers is acceptable.1 -
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✭It's mostly because you have not been to endcontent, yet. Questing works flawlessly and most people that spend money on TESO are probably questers which is the reason that many old players are afraid that ZoS is only catering new players who don't expect more from TESO than questing (solo).
Go to dungeons, trials or cyrodiil during primetime (especially at t he weekend) and you see for yourself.
I also doubt he knows what's weaving is and so many other mechanics that used to work (sort of) and don't.
And also, no PvP under his belt I'll assume.0