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  • Kaisino
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyl9FMHRfOE
  • Juponen
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    lightboy.joseb16_ESO wrote: »
    LissardNoX wrote: »
    Feels like...

    thumblg.png

    An arrow in the knee

    http://youtu.be/mTRmAhu08pA

    :smiley:

    Thanks, awsome video and some levity sets things in perspective.

  • arrisiane
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    sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO wrote: »
    arrisiane wrote: »
    sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO wrote: »

    You have absolutely right.

    But! In case of payed infrastructure service you must have enough redundancy, disaster recovery solution, etc. At least restart servers, bring them up ASAP, and then investigate logs and things. Repair and server down on next scheduled maintenance or in emergency maintenance at less peak hours.

    ...sorry for my bad English.

    So true :) but the cost for this in a MMO environment is to high to actually setup. Now on the other hand NA and EU servers should be a copy of each other code wise , except language specific things , which wouldn't cause these kind of issues anyways , so why don't we have the same issues as NA , and they not the same as we have? Poor management?

    I don't think it's too expensive. That's why we pay them 15$ a month while real expenses per player (iirc based on 300-400k player population) are 2-3$. Let someone correct my numbers if I'm wrong. There is a plenty of resources to ensure decent level of service.

    Regarding management, it seems like that.


    ...sorry for my bad English.

    Bandwidth is a big cost still for companies. I have 100 Mbit down and only 5Mbit upstream for almost nothing. A 2Mbit up and 2 Mbit down for companies cost 5-10 times as much as i pay. Trust me i cant see why either , seeing i have less issues with my home line then we have at our company with the lines of our stores , which should be better seeing bigger price paid.

  • Crowtac
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    an update would be nice for your paying customers...
  • Barong
    Barong
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    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone
  • daveydiablob14_ESO
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    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Isn't that why there are EU specific servers?

    Your comment is silly. You Silly-Billy, you.

  • Wintermist
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    I just think they released this game way ahead of it being ready for it. No Thieves Guild. No Dark Brotherhood. Issues/bugs and maintenance...
  • NoirJ
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    I think one impoartant thing that we can surmise from this thread is that some people have really bad musical tastes.

  • Aiko
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    arrisiane wrote: »
    Yeevle wrote: »
    That reminds me, when are they moving the euro server to a place that is actually in Europe? Not moaning just wondering.

    Only two possibilities here :

    - Issues of late cause them to do this asap.
    - They wait till EU customer base drops to the number they have set to not implement EU based servers.

    I hope they do it SOON™
    Latency is awful!
    Fast is fine, but accurate is final.
  • arrisiane
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    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Then don't call it EU mega server.
  • Mathias.vikenb16_ESO
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    jesus christ... i just love how this happened right after my friend said that the servers are gonna get attacked by hackers or something. I knew it was like he said but i tyed to diffend it and actually get him to buy it and.... guess what, server is down....
  • SilverWF
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    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Your post is pointless
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    5 o'clock isn't prime time. Prime time is when the server is MOST populated. A specific clock time has nothing to do with it.
  • SilverWF
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    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • AngryNord
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think

    Some Europeans also lack this ability.
  • SilverWF
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think

    Some Europeans also lack this ability.

    At least, we are not shutting down EU-server in the EU prime-time (especially at Saturday evening) for a several hours!
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
    • YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
    • EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
    • Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
  • AngryNord
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think

    Some Europeans also lack this ability.

    At least, we are not shutting down EU-server in the EU prime-time (especially at Saturday evening) for a several hours!

    A sudden crash, or hacker attack, could just as well happen to a EU-based server. It is not like you have much of a choice but to turn servers off when something like that happens.
  • daveydiablob14_ESO
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think

    Some Europeans also lack this ability.

    "And that, children, is how World War 3 started."
  • Aerieth
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    What really happens during server maintenance in MMORPGs:
    http://youtu.be/W2JB6oRdnE4
    @Aerieth - PC EU Megaserver
    Ilatria Shadowcore - Lv 50 Nord Vampire Nightblade - Tank / Stam DPS - Daggerfall Covenant
    Maiine Shadowcore - Lv 50 Breton Vampire Nightblade - Magicka DPS - Daggerfall Covenant
    Aerieth Shadowcore - Lv 50 Imperial Vampire Nightblade - Healer - Daggerfall Covenant
    From patch notes long forgotten:
    "Fixed an issue if you had a summoned pet, it could potentially be grabbed by an invisible Molag-Bal and get stuck in a floating posture."
    "Dogs can no longer teleport while chasing cats (much to the disappointment of the dogs)."
  • Siesena
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    Neizir wrote: »
    Meanwhile at Zenimax... #2.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd8vl5LJoM8

    I laughed too hard at this. xD
  • radoslaw85eb17_ESO
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    kinde like pleyers to zeni...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uee_mcxvrw
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    Forztr wrote: »
    same here , this game is clearly not ready for launch, much as I enjoy it (when it works) my sub will not be renewed if they don't get their act together by months end.

    I took Blizzard two months to get World of Warcraft running stable / playable. I guess this means you can cancel your sub now because I can promise you, 1 month is not enough to get all these problems solved - imagining otherwise is wishful thinking on your part.

    Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on April 19, 2014 6:17PM
  • Lee85
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    daveydiablob14_ESO wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think

    Some Europeans also lack this ability.

    "And that, children, is how World War 3 started."

    Aahahaha thank you!! :P
  • AngryNord
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    daveydiablob14_ESO wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    mataratas04b16_ESO wrote: »
    crush83 wrote: »
    For the people who cry about maintenance windows during "primetime".

    It's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

    Europe server my friend, you should expect people in there be in the European time zone

    Some americans really didn't have ability to think

    Some Europeans also lack this ability.

    "And that, children, is how World War 3 started."

    Hey now, I'm no Yank :P True European here, but able to see that my own kind is far from perfect...
  • NoirJ
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Seriously people... Is it that hard? The login servers crashed (possibly DDoS'ing?) - that isn't exactly something they can give 15 minutes notice of...
    DDoS attacks can be mitigated within 10 minutes. Just look at someone like RedSpam.

    This basically drills down to the fact that the Gaming Community will put up with launches and games that have issues, and the reason they do? There’s only one Company that does Game X.
    They know they have a captive audience, people very rarely vote with their feet online.

    If this was the "real world" so to speak issues like this and the ones we have seen since launch would be grounds for terminating a contract.

    People should familiarise themselves with the ITIL Definitions of Warranty and Utility.....To me as an SDM there is a lack of both here at the moment.

  • Sunlight
    Sunlight
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    FROM
    ZOS_GinaBruno Administrator, Moderator admin
    7:09PM Staff Post
    While we don't have an exact ETA for the server coming back online, it does appear that it will be at least a couple hours. We'll update in this thread when we have more news to share. Thanks for your patience!

    GG

    maybe they forget to say custosmers "warning this product isnt complet and dont work properly!

    Try to buy bread without flour :P
  • Esther
    Esther
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    Some information for your paying customers would be great, how it's going etc. :)
    You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else. - Albert Einstein
  • sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO
    sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO
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    arrisiane wrote: »
    sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO wrote: »
    arrisiane wrote: »
    sedmipatuljakeb17_ESO wrote: »

    You have absolutely right.

    But! In case of payed infrastructure service you must have enough redundancy, disaster recovery solution, etc. At least restart servers, bring them up ASAP, and then investigate logs and things. Repair and server down on next scheduled maintenance or in emergency maintenance at less peak hours.

    ...sorry for my bad English.

    So true :) but the cost for this in a MMO environment is to high to actually setup. Now on the other hand NA and EU servers should be a copy of each other code wise , except language specific things , which wouldn't cause these kind of issues anyways , so why don't we have the same issues as NA , and they not the same as we have? Poor management?

    I don't think it's too expensive. That's why we pay them 15$ a month while real expenses per player (iirc based on 300-400k player population) are 2-3$. Let someone correct my numbers if I'm wrong. There is a plenty of resources to ensure decent level of service.

    Regarding management, it seems like that.


    ...sorry for my bad English.

    Bandwidth is a big cost still for companies. I have 100 Mbit down and only 5Mbit upstream for almost nothing. A 2Mbit up and 2 Mbit down for companies cost 5-10 times as much as i pay. Trust me i cant see why either , seeing i have less issues with my home line then we have at our company with the lines of our stores , which should be better seeing bigger price paid.

    That's true. I know prices since I'm in IT and work for company with big public service provisioning. I can't imagine two-three hours of downtime in my company. And we have much less money then Bethesda/Zenimax still having heavy load of traffic and transaction regularly.

    Hence, resources can't be a real problem. Bad management can.


    ...sorry for my bad English.
  • Baskat
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    For some strange reason i'm really glad, Zenimax/Bethesda isn't operating power plants or grids.
  • Night_Watch
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    Hey all UK player on EU server here.

    Just tried to log in and get a server maintainance message.

    Have not been ay home most of day so not tried logging in till now.

    23 pages is a lot to go through but I have read some and scanned others. I did not see an estimate from devs for this downtime and there is no message on launcher (this is something that could have / should have been done).

    So, at the risk of being turned on; have we an estimated down time?

    Anywho, I have a room that is begging to be tidied. So! I guess I have something to do for an at least. :)
    "If there is an underlying oneness of all things, it does not matter where we begin, whether with stars, or laws of supply and demand, or frogs, or Napoleon Bonaparte. One measures a circle, beginning anywhere."

    Charles Fort - Lo! (1931)
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