crowfl56 wrote: »

Ok now PC NA each week it gets worse.

Now I know some of these players are really that good, but to many have found a way to lets say adjust things in their favor.

So now there used to be 1 or 2 players ran around no body could kill but they couldn't kill anyone either.

But, now, big change, these peeps run around kill anyone they choose, almost, and just keep on without dying.

Anyone else notice this ?

Everyone should be killable, especially when 5 or even 10 people can't do any dmg.

Something smells IMO.

People with the correct build and the correct gear with good pvp skills are going to be OP, and to you (and me too) it may look like cheating because they are just so OP. But in a game like ESO the best gear is incredibly overpowered, combine this with the right build and actually great pvp skill and these guys can keep on going. Or it's cheats... but my bet is on the former.

Cygemai_Hlervu wrote: »

I've met several guys like the ones you describe, OP.. They just run from the entire squad after them around a farm tower's second floor, then they run upstairs to the roof, jump off back to the second floor and the merry-go-round repeats. I remember I was staying near a farm flag watching that chase and catch game and could not understand why didn't that runner simply run away or fall and respawn, I could not understand the point because that continued for quite a long time. Then I got bored, walked inside and upstairs to the roof. As soon as that guy came I just transformed into a werewolf and feared him - my squad killed him in a second. I've always been doing that since that time without waiting for my mates to kill such a runner - if I see the guy does not escape, I just go there and fear him, then he falls in a second. But still the reasons of those guys' behavior is out of my comprehension. It's so.. pointless.

Ya, it's called 1 v Xing and towers are a great way to farm zerglings for alliance points

Not a hack usually, it's just a combination of poorly balanced sets and abilities, combined with someone who has access to YouTube lol

Heavy armor meta must die.

Chasing folks around rocks or towers is a choice. If it's not to your advantage, don't do it. There's almost always something else you could be doing that will better serve your alliance.

Universe wrote: »

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

Whether it's cheating or not, this makes PvP ridiculous. If it's not cheating they are exploiting ZOS's incompetency in balancing skills and gear for PvP.
Either reboot PvP with a reduced skill/gear set, or just end open world PvP and move all PvP into BG with proper leagues. That would also get rid of Cyro AP Boosting because there wouldn't be Cyrodiil PvP anymore and ZOS wouldn't have to do anything about it, not that they're doing anything about it anyway.

There is no magical skills or gear that makes people op, they just know how to do proper defensive and offensive rotations versus players that don’t know how to. Ive been there before, but if you take the time to learn all classes, keep your buffs up, and use a proper rotation then you can be op too.

This is not always true.
You don't remember that there used to be some nasty exploits in the past ?
Examples: Hist Bark used to give 100% dodge chance and the Salvation set gave like 150K weapon damage to the exploiters.

*I will be very surprised if there aren't any active exploits/super OP sets around.
In MMOs there is always the possibility that something is broken.

I remember very early on there were some people who could 1v80+. I don't mean running around towers and rocks either. I mean stand there in an open field and get pounded on by an entire faction and remain completely unphased. Fire, lightning, arrows, all manner of blades, siege weapons, all of it together did exactly diddly squat. People were defending that too as being "skilled" or "proper use of defensive and offensive rotations versus players that don't know how to."

Nine times out of ten when something like this comes up it really is just a matter of skill level or build or whatever. But that one when it's not can really cause a lot of problems, so it's definitely worth it to be on the lookout for it.

VaranisArano wrote: »

That's a Learn2Play issue.
Not necessarily a gear or a balance issue (though it can be).

Yeah, the skill gap in ESO (especially in PvP) is insanely huge.
The "skill floor" is pretty much at bedrock level and the "ceiling" is somewhere high up in the sky.

A skilled, properly geared PvPer can easily destroy an inexperienced and poorly prepared player in as few as 2-3 hits.
OTOH, 2 skilled PvPers fighting each other can keep fighting for ages, if both are using a broadly similar type of build (not, for example, a glass cannon fighting a bomber, etc).

Likewise, as others have already pointed out, one good player (or a small group of them) can usually win against many times their own numbers - if, and only if, their opposition is considerably less skilled.

To the OP: sometimes, using a little common sense can go a very long way:
Whenever there's a lone enemy player (or a small group) being chased by a dozen of your allies for a while already, there's usually a very good reason why they aren't very dead yet - and it's generally pointless to bother with them unless you really know what you are doing and you are generally capable of holding your ground in a fair 1v1 fight (or, even better, in an outnumbered fight).

It's especially suicidal to chase such players if you are using a build intended for medium/large group play, since such builds tend to lack many of the tools essential in 1v1/1vX situations - usually being deficient in one or more of the following departments: decent burst, strong heals, self buffs, mobility, mitigation.

Major_Lag wrote: »

It's especially suicidal to chase such players if you are using a build intended for medium/large group play, since such builds tend to lack many of the tools essential in 1v1/1vX situations - usually being deficient in one or more of the following departments: decent burst, strong heals, self buffs, mobility, mitigation.

Yep. In the event that you are built medium/large group play, there's a really easy tactic for dealing with those players: stick with your group and work together to take the opponent down. I mean, you're built to play as a group, so...play as a group. Don't chase. Don't split up. Act like you're a team.

The goal for group players is to get that whiny "You zerged me!" whisper.
Like, yeah, you took on a group who knows how to work together. What did you expect, us to line up for our individual dueling appointments?

VaranisArano wrote: »

The goal for group players is to get that whiny "You zerged me!" whisper.
Like, yeah, you took on a group who knows how to work together. What did you expect, us to line up for our individual dueling appointments?

Against a mid-to-large sized, highly skilled and well organized (Discord/TS) group, even the most "indestructible" 1vXers and "unkillable" PvP tanks end up deleted in mere second, unless they can somehow escape their otherwise inevitable doom.
When subjected to the coordinated onslaught of the entire group, they fall like wheat before the harvest blade - not unlike the trashmobs in normal PvE dungeons.

For the record, such a group is also capable of capturing a highly contested keep and holding it against zergs of 3-4x their numbers - as long as they don't start losing their groupmembers to crashes/disconnects, and don't fall victim to the extreme lag which usually occurs in such situations.

When you are playing on such a level, that is your greatest (and the only real) enemy: the game's (server's?) technical brokenness.
You and your group are effectively invincible, as long as your ability/synergy inputs don't fail to activate and you don't get randomly disconnected due to the extreme numbers of enemies present.