Well the issues with doing the Volkihar is players would expect the npcs to at least have similar looking models and voices for the npcs in the Castle. Another thing is that we cannot deal with or kill Harkon or the Vampires living in the Castle because of continuity.

We would likely not see Serana or Valerica even if they did add in the Volkihar. Even if they did add them in they wouldn't be much importance for the overall storyline.
Now it would have been neat if they included it and even as a place we could visit. Given the Paranoia of Harkon, having a big bad mofo Vampire Lord that even he might not be able to take on being a direct rival to his own clan. Could have caused him and his clan to vacate the castle temporary. Maybe other types of creatures moved in and we have to clear them out.

Doing something like this could have allowed them to make it so we could explore the unique history of the castle and explore areas we were not able to explore in Tes 5 while also preserving continuity.
So even if we don't deal directly with the Volkihar doesn't mean we couldn't explore the castle and its unique history.
So hopefully one day they will add it in.

Maybe an upcoming dungeon escorting Valerica to the Soul Cairn? That could have potential and, if going the secret route you did in Skyrim, would mean you don't need to physically interact with Harkon. Maybe some feral bloodfiends, death hounds and gargoyle bosses. Final boss against a Keeper or Reaper at the end.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Didnt serana got locked up long before eso plays out? I remember her saying something like „what empire?“ if you tell her about the civil war. And her mother fled immediately to the cairn after hiding her? So seems more like a Timeline issue.

There seems to be significant debate around that. Skyrim writers say its around the mid-Second Era, so we're right on time. ZOS lore writers have it mid- to late-First. IMO the ZOS thing is more important, since it's their game and their choice, but right now there's no certain answer and anyone who says there is is showing bias.

prof-dracko wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Didnt serana got locked up long before eso plays out? I remember her saying something like „what empire?“ if you tell her about the civil war. And her mother fled immediately to the cairn after hiding her? So seems more like a Timeline issue.

There seems to be significant debate around that. Skyrim writers say its around the mid-Second Era, so we're right on time. ZOS lore writers have it mid- to late-First. IMO the ZOS thing is more important, since it's their game and their choice, but right now there's no certain answer and anyone who says there is is showing bias.

Okay, didn't know about the inconsistency.

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Serena got locked before the formation of the empire therefore before eso

That's why I asked.

She asks who Skyrim's High King is. You can tell her it's debatable and she continues with: "Cyrodiil is the seat of an empire? I must have been gone longer than I thought."

And according to UESP "The Alessian Empire, also called the First Empire, the Empire of Cyrodiil, and the Empire of Men, was established by the former human slaves of the Ayleid Empire in 1E 243 "

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Serena got locked before the formation of the empire therefore before eso

If I recall it's between Empires. She was around like during the fall of a Empire which is why she's surprised there's another one after being in stasis due to using that as a base for time passed. Like if you were around for the Fall of the Roman Empire you'd be surprised if there was yet another Roman empire after waking up from stasis.

So for Serana it's like Between Alessian Empire and Reman or the Second empire (which like only falls when you get to ESOs
Warzone Cyrodiil) and Tiber

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I think that the balance of the evidence (and most importantly, basically all of the in-game evidence) supports the "Serana was sealed away before Alessia's revolution" position.

She's between Empires so she can't be before Alessia.
"Cyrodiil is the seat of an empire? I must have been gone longer than I thought. Definitely longer than we planned."

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Gaius_Marius wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I think that the balance of the evidence (and most importantly, basically all of the in-game evidence) supports the "Serana was sealed away before Alessia's revolution" position.

She's between Empires so she can't be before Alessia.
"Cyrodiil is the seat of an empire? I must have been gone longer than I thought. Definitely longer than we planned."

If it was before allesia she would still be surprised of this
And also Durvenir dialog doesnt really match after that because there isnt that much dragon left for the need to fight for small piece of territory

Should also note that people were calling the Ayleids an Empire from at least the second era.

Durnehviir also doesn't really say when or where he was in Tamriel just "The dovah roamed the skies, vying for their small slices of territory that resulted in immense and ultimately fatal battles" which is after Alduins fall so could easily fit in before the Dragonguard arrived. Never mind time working different'y in Daedric realms plus a touch of unreliable narrator.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I think that the balance of the evidence (and most importantly, basically all of the in-game evidence) supports the "Serana was sealed away before Alessia's revolution" position.

The other side is basically just one random guy in a blog post on the Imperial Library website.

I'll take the side of what actually happens in Skyrim instead of the Big Lebowski "Well that's just like your opinion, man" guy.

That is not possible, anything Vampire related in TES would have to had occured after the Imperial Pantheon was established because the very first Vampire was a priestess of one of the Gods in that pantheon before the Alessian Rebellion the Nedes were slaves to the Ayleids.

That's actually a very valid point that I haven't seen anyone mention before. For Lamae to be a priestess of Arkay there needs to have been an Arkay, which wold only exist after Alessia merged the Nordic and Elvish pantheons after the revolution. So it is, at the very least, during or post Alessian Empire.

Noxavian wrote: »

There is an alternate reality out there where we got a cool Volkihar-based chapter...

I still hope that in a future chapter, once everyone is over their Skyrim-phobia, we'll get to visit castle Volkihar and see how Harkon and his family were before Harkon went mad. Since on the wiki it says that they've either just recently (in vampire terms of recently) became vampires or they are just about to be vampires.

many people will groan and moan about us revisiting the volkihar clan, but to me and many others they are an interesting story that still needs to be covered from the past. There is still a lot we don't know about them and it would be neat to see the early days of the clan.

It's not about groaning and moaning but merely keeping up with the lore. When Serana goes under there isn't even an empire in Cyrodill so they became Vampires in what the first Era? She doesn't know about the Allesian rebellion at the very least possibly not even aware of the Ayleid Empire in that region which would place her and her family becoming vampires even before the first Era. So here we are maybe 40 or so years away from the end of the second era(I'm a little shy on the exact date ESO starts but I remember it's a good amount of time before Tiber Septum is born) there is no chance of seeing Serana or Valerica, as they are both in hiding. Maybe we could see Harkon but what interest would he have in us? He's busy looking for his Elder Scroll. I agree it would be cool to maybe interact with him, do some quests etc but I can see why in the grand scheme of things there's wasn't a lot to offer to us.