I foresee people complain then quit.

For mag- sorc, dk, warden.

Whats will be godlike in the next xpack ?
Pay to win classes, stam version.

Stam warden & stam necro.
You can forget to play another class if you dont want to get owned 24/7

mav1234 wrote: »

surprised to see so many people suggesting NB. I imagine it will remain largely where it is right now, perhaps worse given the heavy attack out of cloak nerf.

change to bloodspawn may hit stam dk hard, but I think they will remain strong. other than that, I see the general tier list looking pretty similar until we have a better idea of how werewolf / vampire will impact pvp.

I personally think that NBs, particularly magNB's, will be hurt by the update more than helped. Quite a lot actually. When people say NB's will be better, I'm positive they're thinking of gankers and nothing else.

Currently many (although obviously not all) magblades run vampirism, in particular those who rely on cloak. The increased sneak speed, damage reduction, mist form for those who run it, and increased recovery all work very well with the cloaky-style of magblade play.

If the vamp cost increases go through it will make running a higher stage vamp very difficult, especially considering the additional loss of the mag and stam sustain passive. If it ends up being that stage 1 is all that can be reasonably afforded, that's a big loss in damage reduction and recovery.

The 20% nerf in healing is going to hurt tremendously for a class that has no burst emergency heals. If people turn en masse towards either overall mitigation in place of armor due to all the new pen sets, or just even more tankiness in general to compensate, this will in turn reduce NB healing even further as a result of Swallow Soul and light attacks not hitting as hard.

The nerf to defensive sets is going to be painful for squishy magblades who relied on a defensive set so they could push enough damage with their other sets..

The general increase in damage is going to make magblades that much easier to burst down, especially without them being given anything to compensate (all while losing, at minimum, 20% of their own healing). Many already have to sacrifice a great deal more defense in relation to other classes just to have enough damage to kill tankier players.

Personally, I feel that come Greymoor is going to put every magblade who isn't either a ganker or dark-cloaker into a worse position than they are now, and will likely polarize the class even further into speccing to be 100% glass-cannon gankers or dark-cloak tankers.

Man. Just writing all that out...I think I might of picked a horrible time to fall in love with playing a magblade =(

Any stam class apart from Stamblade or maybe Stamsorc.

Play whatever you like bro meta or not, if you like the play style and don't get salty when others who follow the meta kills you, you should be fine.
If you do get salty and want the strongest spec just follow the meta xd. In my opinion its stamcro then stamden then stamplar.

I feel stamblade will be much stronger with the resistance nerfs and the addition of stuhn, it might give night blade the high damage again to cut through more tanky builds, if stamcro ghost and blastbones isn’t nerfed it will likely remain meta, magden ult dump duelling build will be looking strong with masters destro buff too

Aedaryl wrote: »

Everything stamina as usual, with Stamden and stamcro at the top, because $$$.

BUT Stam sorc will be left to dust because surge cannot work with malacath of pay to win.
NB in general will be even less good - maybe pure ganker builds will then be able to kill someone with a brain.

Magplar will be very strong because it has acces to off balance and is already top mag class.

If you don't wanna die and play alone, go Magsorc and Streak as far as you can when that stamcro noticed you, it's all you can do anyway with 0 resistances.

Everything else not speaking is obviously not worth playing.

Malacath should set critical damage modifier to 0, and slightly reduce its power.
As it is now, tanky classes that dont rely heavily on crits will get to much power out of it.
This ring plus impen changes don't bode well for stamsorc/blade and even stamplar since they also benefit heavily from crits.

Kadoin wrote: »

Stam

Yep. Probably gonna be the most Stamina-dominant patch yet, and that's really saying something. I think the Mag Sorcs that are used to playing glass cannon setups will probably still do OK, otherwise no-CP is going to be pretty ridiculous if you're Magicka. And I guess Magicka Templar might be decent if Stuhn's stays mostly the same; they'll have silly damage like Stam builds, but without the same level of mobility and survivability.

JayKwellen wrote: »

I personally think that NBs, particularly magNB's, will be hurt by the update more than helped. Quite a lot actually. When people say NB's will be better, I'm positive they're thinking of gankers and nothing else.

Just imagine all the posts on the forum asking for nightblade nerfs from ppl after getting ganked by someone using balorgh+stuhn+caluurion

Goregrinder wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Its too vague of a question.

Which classes rank top 3 next patch and which ones rank bottom 3? Specific enough for ya bud?

Top 3:
Stamcro
Stamden
Magsorc

Bottom 3:
Magcro
Magblade
Magdk