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Unpopular OP: the new perfected vMA and vDSA weapons are what endgame players have been looking for
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Pr0Skygon✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »You still didn't understand the gist behind whole this storm about non-upgradable vMA drops. It's not about bonuses. It's not about numbers. It's about principle: our vMA drops turn into nMA drops. In one fell swoop. We ran for vMA weapons, we earned them by spending time in vMA, and now our time is best spent elsewhere; to have vMA drops again, we're forced to run old trite content again. It's not okay. It's a disrespect for our time and effort.
Mind, if they made new, more challenging and fun vMA HM or something and made perfected drop there, I wouldn't say a word.
Exept you farmed normal weapon not the perfected version and you get to keep what you farmed for
Nope, wrong. I farmed vMA weapons. Repeat it. vMA weapons. Weapons that are given for the clear of vMA. Now, same unchanged vMA is deemed to be worthy of better weapons, and I've already done my grind there. Don't try to pull a fast one on me.
So i bought my Iphone 10 in 2017,but with only 256GB storage, for 1000$. Now in 2020, years later, they release a new model of Iphone 10, with 1TB storage, but also for 1000$. Assuming that my Iphone 10 is still technically brand new, since I have never used it since I bought it, do I have the right to demand Apple to upgrade my Iphone 10 2017 version to the new 2020 version for free?
Nope, that's not how the world functions.
This example is just wrong. You need to know the full history of vma weapons. Let me correct your example to show it better.
I bought my iPhone 10 with 1TB of storage. Few months later apple comes to my house and Takes away storage and i am left with 256 GB storage. Cause they want that all iPhone 10 have only 256GB.
1 year later apple upgrades the iPhone 10 to 1TB again but you need to buy it again. Your iphone stays with 256GB, wont be upgraded to 1TB again even tho, you paid 1000€ for it when it Had 1TB.
You think this is fair?
Yea if you put it that way, then nah.0 -
Pr0Skygon✭✭✭✭✭T3hasiangod wrote: »I am an end-game player. This is not what I was looking for.
That's a shame. I personally enjoy running weekly vMA, but I can also understand people grudge with it.
At the very least though, most people would not even bother to do the grind again, since the changes are so minimal.0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭1. ZOS introduces vMA & Maelstrom Weapons. The weapons have "Perfected" bonus build-in.Old weapon with a different trait (that was removed from the game too), but those weapon also provide constant "while equipped" bonus - just like perfected weapons do.2. ZOS nerfs the vMA weapons by the extra bonus those weapons give.
3. ZOS then re-introduces similar bonus and call new weapons "Perfected" - Effective making us re-grind what we already once had.... Not cool...
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Pr0Skygon✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »1. ZOS introduces vMA & Maelstrom Weapons. The weapons have "Perfected" bonus build-in.Old weapon with a different trait (that was removed from the game too), but those weapon also provide constant "while equipped" bonus - just like perfected weapons do.2. ZOS nerfs the vMA weapons by the extra bonus those weapons give.
3. ZOS then re-introduces similar bonus and call new weapons "Perfected" - Effective making us re-grind what we already once had.... Not cool...
Yea but it's not the point of this thread. But since we're already here, I don't think anyone would or even could debate whether or not this move is a [snip] move or not.
[edited for bypassing profanity filter]Edited by ZOS_FalcoYamaoka on April 23, 2020 3:44PM0 -
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭I have an issue with VMA perfected weapons. When they first released VMA the weapons had an extra stat line from the start. Later ZOS took it away and now we have to farm the same thing over and over to get back something that was there before because they say so? There are no changes like a hard mode or mechanical so why make us do the same content for the same weapons ZOS nerfed in the past. VDSA I might be able to get on board with if they add a book for a hardmode or even an extra boss at the end. I uninstalled and canceled subscription shortly after writing this. GG this is a joke game and company running it.Edited by antihero727 on April 23, 2020 2:43PMVeldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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Sennecca✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »John_Falstaff wrote: »You still didn't understand the gist behind whole this storm about non-upgradable vMA drops. It's not about bonuses. It's not about numbers. It's about principle: our vMA drops turn into nMA drops. In one fell swoop. We ran for vMA weapons, we earned them by spending time in vMA, and now our time is best spent elsewhere; to have vMA drops again, we're forced to run old trite content again. It's not okay. It's a disrespect for our time and effort.
Mind, if they made new, more challenging and fun vMA HM or something and made perfected drop there, I wouldn't say a word.
Exept you farmed normal weapon not the perfected version and you get to keep what you farmed for
Nope, wrong. I farmed vMA weapons. Repeat it. vMA weapons. Weapons that are given for the clear of vMA. Now, same unchanged vMA is deemed to be worthy of better weapons, and I've already done my grind there. Don't try to pull a fast one on me.
So i bought my Iphone 10 in 2017,but with only 256GB storage, for 1000$. Now in 2020, years later, they release a new model of Iphone 10, with 1TB storage, but also for 1000$. Assuming that my Iphone 10 is still technically brand new, since I have never used it since I bought it, do I have the right to demand Apple to upgrade my Iphone 10 2017 version to the new 2020 version for free?
Nope, that's not how the world functions.
This example is just wrong. You need to know the full history of vma weapons. Let me correct your example to show it better.
I bought my iPhone 10 with 1TB of storage. Few months later apple comes to my house and Takes away storage and i am left with 256 GB storage. Cause they want that all iPhone 10 have only 256GB.
1 year later apple upgrades the iPhone 10 to 1TB again but you need to buy it again. Your iphone stays with 256GB, wont be upgraded to 1TB again even tho, you paid 1000€ for it when it Had 1TB.
You think this is fair?
Yea if you put it that way, then nah.
He forgot to add that they then gave everyone that had an iphone 5 and iphone 10 with 256 storage1 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZoS should keep the weapons as they are on live, just add their previous bonus (something that was taken from us).
Everybody would be happy.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language0 -
Blynjubitr✭✭✭So the new vMA and vDSA weapons each add a little of PVE dps, like very very small, I'm talking like 1-3% more total dps, since you'll most likely use either the bows or destro staves, which are often on the backbar.
Now, assuming you're a top tier PVE dps, and you can pull like 80k as easily as I pull this bs post up my a$$. So with the new perfected vMA/vDSA weapons, you'll possibly gain roughly 2.5k dps. That's barely worth anything.
Seriously, if you can't sleep tight at night without that extra 2.5k dps, then grinding vMA/vDSA will actually give you a sense of purpose, an actual worthwhile goal. Plus, with that sweet 80k dps of yours, vMA will be ez af (here comes the comments telling me how dump I am for thinking someone can pull off 80k dps in vMA, lol).
But if you're just a casual gamer, with like 30k dps on 3M dummy, or you don't really care for vet trials, then these new perfected versions won't do you any more good. Why the hell would you complain about having to do something that you don't enjoy, in order to get something that is barely better than what you already have?
For the rest of you PVPers, you guys are doomed.
And for the people who think that "ZOS will buff the perfected version next patch, then you'll have to grind them again". 1) If they would ever do it, then you can QQ, but not now. 2) Guys, this is ESO, they don't buff new stuffs, they either let it be, or burn it to ground. I ain't seeing them buffing these in near future.
PS: ZOS I did what you guys had told me, now where's my personal Argonian maid?
Lol vMA perfects will not even add any numbers to your DPS, so just forget about vMA weapon perfect stuff, not happening with spell pen(wich is useless) and weapon crit that only works on your backbar that you stay for 2 sec at most.
I wish they would add 2.5k. but we won't even get 100 dps more. Ofc we will farm them but just to see that perfected name.Edited by Blynjubitr on April 23, 2020 8:24PM0