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Vampire Damage Testing in Duels...

Elusiin
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Basically Sorc, Warden, and Dragon Knight vampires are horrible at stage 4, and being in melee range of 2H stam dizzying swing spammers, well you have no chance.
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    Any testing against a MagDK with a flame whip? I imagine its not going to be pretty either...
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  • Mayrael
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    Elusiin wrote: »
    Basically Sorc, Warden, and Dragon Knight vampires are horrible at stage 4, and being in melee range of 2H stam dizzying swing spammers, well you have no chance.

    Did you you took into consideration that they may be using Stuhn? If so then it's not a vampire who is guilty of being bad ;)
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • Stravokov
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    how you supposed to heal with Vampire when there is no burst heal in the skill line, and a 20% + cost on all non Vampire skills? i get they want to force players into playing with all the Vampire skills, but then at least make it viable.

    they should change it so if you have all vampire skills loaded, there is no penalty to non vampire skill cost.
  • Elusiin
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    Elusiin wrote: »
    Basically Sorc, Warden, and Dragon Knight vampires are horrible at stage 4, and being in melee range of 2H stam dizzying swing spammers, well you have no chance.

    Did you you took into consideration that they may be using Stuhn? If so then it's not a vampire who is guilty of being bad ;)

    Yuuhah I took that into account and used break free. :eyeroll:

    The problem is the lack of sustain. You just cannot heal or shield anything because of the costs, and the heal you're given is pathetic, the channel ability is flawed in the since you're a standing target who barely heals, can be bashed, or can be cc'd into a dizzying swing and just dying. The Vampire still needs serious buffs to be viable, this is kinda disappointing.

    It would be nice if the developers made a build build demonstrating the most optimum gear and skills for the things they create, and prove it's viable in PvP/PvE. But I get the impression they do not do that.
    Edited by Elusiin on April 23, 2020 5:01AM
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    Warden, from an offensive stand point, is one of the best classes for it. (The best, actually)
    10% magic damage and alot of % from animal companion and easy minor berserk.

    I also imagine their defense to be better than that of some others.
    I agree however. My testing has also concluded that it does not seem to be that good. Surely not nearly as good as I anticipated. I consider purging it on live as it stands now.
    Edited by Dracane on April 23, 2020 5:20AM
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  • Mayrael
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    Elusiin wrote: »
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Elusiin wrote: »
    Basically Sorc, Warden, and Dragon Knight vampires are horrible at stage 4, and being in melee range of 2H stam dizzying swing spammers, well you have no chance.

    Did you you took into consideration that they may be using Stuhn? If so then it's not a vampire who is guilty of being bad ;)

    Yuuhah I took that into account and used break free. :eyeroll:

    The problem is the lack of sustain. You just cannot heal or shield anything because of the costs, and the heal you're given is pathetic, the channel ability is flawed in the since you're a standing target who barely heals, can be bashed, or can be cc'd into a dizzying swing and just dying. The Vampire still needs serious buffs to be viable, this is kinda disappointing.

    It would be nice if the developers made a build build demonstrating the most optimum gear and skills for the things they create, and prove it's viable in PvP/PvE. But I get the impression they do not do that.

    I was talking about Stuhn set, not stun CC. You know, the one that gives 13k penetration :D Probably also with Malacath Band (not rock band, the ring, not the movie, a piece of jewelry :trollface: )
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Warden, from an offensive stand point, is one of the best classes for it. (The best, actually)
    10% magic damage and alot of % from animal companion and easy minor berserk.

    I also imagine their defense to be better than that of some others.
    I agree however. My testing has also concluded that it does not seem to be that good. Surely not nearly as good as I anticipated. I consider purging it on live as it stands now.

    Damage numbers on Vamp skills on a (magicka) Warden look nutty, especially with a magic damage execute.
    Resource management is gonna be a problem though, since they already trouble in that field. I haven't tried it though.
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  • Elusiin
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    Greystag wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Warden, from an offensive stand point, is one of the best classes for it. (The best, actually)
    10% magic damage and alot of % from animal companion and easy minor berserk.

    I also imagine their defense to be better than that of some others.
    I agree however. My testing has also concluded that it does not seem to be that good. Surely not nearly as good as I anticipated. I consider purging it on live as it stands now.

    Damage numbers on Vamp skills on a (magicka) Warden look nutty, especially with a magic damage execute.
    Resource management is gonna be a problem though, since they already trouble in that field. I haven't tried it though.

    Vampire does not have an execute.
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