Saelent wrote: »

Avoiding spoilers...

If a certain person you let out of a certain thing for story reasons looks particularly hungry and ugly for it, why is it they look pretty again once fed?
Why do the test of us look ugly when fed?
Clearly feeding is still required.

I believe the new vampire quest explains this (at least enough to call it passable). Because Lamae changed her strain through various sorcery and rituals, Noxophilic Sanguivoria requires feeding to get stronger, and Noxophilic Sanguivoria only (Until it gets retconned later in the series). This certain person may likely not have our strain of vampirism, making them exempt.

Paradisius wrote: »

Saelent wrote: »

Avoiding spoilers...

If a certain person you let out of a certain thing for story reasons looks particularly hungry and ugly for it, why is it they look pretty again once fed?
Why do the test of us look ugly when fed?
Clearly feeding is still required.

I believe the new vampire quest explains this (at least enough to call it passable). Because Lamae changed her strain through various sorcery and rituals, Noxophilic Sanguivoria requires feeding to get stronger, and Noxophilic Sanguivoria only (Until it gets retconned later in the series). This certain person may likely not have our strain of vampirism, making them exempt.

Meanwhile the Vampire Lord form in Skyrim got stronger by Feeding as well as well as all 11 Vampire Bloodlines in Daggerfall and the Berne, Quarra and Aundae Clans in Morrowind, and Rona Hassildor who fell into a Coma for not drinking blood in Oblivion, that whole starving thing was in only 1/2 half games, they should of never added that line and just pretended this is how it always worked.

Now it just fills forced and without logic, If Vampires are magical then how is something that is overcome by bloodlust and not thinking straight stronger then something with a rational mind when it takes a rational mind to properly cast spells?

In Oblivion and Morrowind there was this thing called the INTELLIGENCE and WILLPOWER stats which were required for Spell-Casting, a "Dumb" creature who cannot think would have low Intelligence and Willpower and therefor have low spellcasting ability if at all.

ZOS screwed up big-time when they forced us to join Lamae Bal's clan if we want to be Vampires, maybe I don't want to be a Blood-Scion, maybe I want to be a Thinblooded Vampire, did ZOS ever think about that? should of not even had a quest in the first place, just contract the disease and after a few ingame hours you transform into a Vampire, maybe I want to play a Vampire who was turned against their will and is being forced to live with a curse.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Meanwhile the Vampire Lord form in Skyrim got stronger by Feeding as well.

You're right but in mortal form they got stronger as they starved with the inclusion of more powerful ice resistance passives and new powers. They still needed blood to stave off the sun and the insane flame damage they received though, and if they didn't want to be attacked on sight at the final stage. ((Wish Bethesda never patched the attack on sight thing out of Dawnguard))

Half the problem is that there isn’t a stage before being a monster that you actually want to stick to. You’re either pretty and weak or ugly as hell, there needs to be like....a happy medium stage that you have to try and stick to via feeding but avoid going too far. So you get skills and passives working but don’t look hideous.

Might work for this system.

Or just reverse it with the feeding, bloodline type excuses be damned.

Still nobody gonna feed. Corrupting Bloody Mara instantly gives Stage 4. Purifying Mara or using the new Altar Furniture decreases it by one.

ShadowHvo wrote: »

Leave my nasty and ghoulish stage 4 skin alone, please.

Some of us likes looking like monsters!...- though options are good.

Option to look like any stage when at stage 4 then?