One set that I use got nerfed by a lot meaning I won't slot it anymore probably but there is a lot of new options, I already have 3 new builds in that place

I'm just so grateful to see that there was no enormous nerf hammer to class abilities, despite the rest of the trashy changes.

The performance improvement section is too small for me .

I am more mildy dissapointed than anything.

I like a lot about it and some things I didn't like.
But since combat will likely still feel mushy, sirupy, broken, I don't care much either way. positive or negative.

I love the new vampires, feels more like an optional thing you can now build around with abilities to make such a thing possible, rather than a all use case passive dump. The harrow storms are really exciting and the

Sure is outrage culture in this thread. I'm actually happy there's only relatively minor changes and not the sweeping sledgehammer nerfs we've come to expect. Just remember, we could have gotten those light attack changes.

Both vamp and werewolf updates look pretty cool. Monster set changes are a meh. The arena weapon updates I love. Don't like that I've gotta regrind them all over again but it's whatever it's an mmo.

OWLTHEMAD wrote: »

Pretty much what it says. I want there to be something quantifiable for zos to measure dissapointment against enthusiasm. Additionally, id like those who are enthused to really elaborate why so that those of us who are let down might change our minds.

If your excited say why. If your let down say why.

This chapter brings nothing to the table. Game will be exactly same as one patch before, maybe less block cancels and less MagDKs but still anything else will be SAME. Same lag, same gamebreaking issues. I disabled my ESO+ and i will not pay until they decide to fix lag and bugs, because i am not willing to pay for a game that doesn't even work anymore.

Regrinding old arena for 18 chars that had like 2-3 weapons on them each with different enchantmenta and traits. With such performance and my current play time it's months and months to come.
Deconstruction of said items plus ones banked as it's now "imperfect" which empties one 60 slot coffer from vma daggers/axes etc.
Deconstruction of vas perfect inferno staves as they made completely useless.
Decon of monster helmets also.
Zero change for nightblade that was destroyed but never adressed despite empty promises.
Non existent performance changes.

Heavily outweighs any positives for me.

Yay.

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Sure is outrage culture in this thread. I'm actually happy there's only relatively minor changes and not the sweeping sledgehammer nerfs we've come to expect.

You must not have been a user of the Asylum Destruction Staff, Bloodspawn, Grundwulf, Engine Guardian, Thurvokun, etc. as those sets have been thoroughly dumpstered by the combat team.

More essentially though, nerfs are the bankruptcy of creativity, an admission of guilt by the combat team that they are simply out of ideas and unable to provide players with options that can successfully compete with established sets.

I have never been more disappointed with patch notes. I went into these notes expecting the typical degradation of small scale, lowering of the skill ceiling, and raising of the skill floor.. but these patch notes took that to a profound, new level. Absolutely appalling.

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GetAgrippa wrote: »

The wholesale nerf of defensive options while leaving blighted blastbones untouched will be extremely unhealthy for small scale no-cp PVP.

Crixus8000 wrote: »

20 % heal nerf while also nerfing defensive monster sets then buffing ganking will make pvp very boring in no cp.

Indeed. It looks like basically all magicka builds will become glass cannons, even if they actively try to build for defense. Stamina builds may be in a little better shape due to greater ability to spam dodge rolls, but I think there's still going to be a whole lot of insta-deaths going around. And if I wanted that style of PvP I'd go play a first person shooter, not an MMO.

Devils advocate here, but at least its a blow to the horrible tank meta. I think thats what alot of the gear changes are addressing. But again, they are buffing ganking playstyle indirectly, while not increasing the nightblades viability in literally anyother playstyle.

There really isn't a "tank meta" in no-CP BGs. Certain builds - mostly Stamina ones - are probably able to get a bit too much survivability without giving up meaningful damage and/or mobility, but it's not like what I always hear complained about in CP-enabled Cyrodiil.

If Stuhn's Favor goes live as-is, Dizzying Swing - which is already an incredibly powerful spammable - will result in nearly 15k penetration for 7 seconds, from just that one (single barred) set. Dizzy spam already hits stupidly high numbers in BGs on live, and it's likely to get really ridiculous when it completely guts your damage resistance for no extra effort.

With 3x Protective Jewelry (outdated, I know), heavy helm and shoulders, 5 light armor in the other slots, and Major Resolve/Ward up, my Magicka Necromancer is around 19k physical resist. Stuhn's Favor will leave me at ~4k total resists after the first Dizzying Swing lands, and there's simply no realistic way for me to survive for 7 seconds against any halfway mediocre stamina player. Especially with healing nerfs + the potential to be major (and minor) defiled. And if I keep Vampirism...cause, you know, having an instant stun is kind of important in PvP, I'll still be eating +20% damage from Dawnbreaker, which will now be landing against bottomed-out resistances.

I'm not a big fan of playing glass cannon specs in general, especially on classes with bad mobility, but that's probably going to be the only way to be remotely viable on Magicka builds next patch. Stack up 3 damage sets and pretend it's Elder-First-Person-Shooter-Online.

Crixus8000 wrote: »

20 % heal nerf while also nerfing defensive monster sets then buffing ganking will make pvp very boring in no cp.

Did they buff ganking? I didn't see that, but I did see everyone is getting baseline crit resistance, kinda counter to ganking if you ask me.

As a tank main I'm disappointed with monster set changes and also in all stamina composition I won't be able to use any monster sets that fits my playstyle, but the one that gives physical penetration. We're already forced to use certain sets, which I have zero problem with, but the choice of a monster set was always mine to do. Now that choice is removed in all stamina compositions. (hardcore end game perspective).

I'm also disappointed with the poor change to veteran arena weapons vs normal variants. Veteran players that take time, effort and skill to achieve certain things should have better rewards.

I can clearn normal maelstrom arena at lvl 10 in all training gear, that's how easy it is.

Some of these changes are not fair to people who put so much work into their game.

I am disappointed.

1) Stamina supramacy in PvP continues into the next year.

2) Baseline Crit Resist and the resulting move away from pure impen builds further buffs stamina builds as there are only alternative armor traits benefitting stamina builds (Well-fitted, Sturdy) but nothing comparable for magicka builds. Percentage based Cost Reduction on main defensive tools (that do not even require a bar slot) beats out any of the other traits - even a divines with a sustain mundus can't compete with that since it is barely better than the un-used Invigorating trait. And Reinforced benefits the Heavy Armor meta more than anything else.

3) Magicka sustain issue was not addressed at all.

I'm pretty indifferent to the new update but hope the questing is fun at least.

I've stopped being surprised about combat and set changes, things just flip back and forward all the time without any seemingly good reason. The things that disappoint me the most is bloodspawn and asylum staff nerfs, those are really bad.