After seeing the patch notes are you excited or let down?

OWLTHEMAD
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Pretty much what it says. I want there to be something quantifiable for zos to measure dissapointment against enthusiasm. Additionally, id like those who are enthused to really elaborate why so that those of us who are let down might change our minds.

If your excited say why. If your let down say why.

After seeing the patch notes are you excited or let down? 230 votes

Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
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Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
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Im indifferent.This chapter does not affect me at all.
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  • Baraber
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    I mean it's fine and all, just 2 things bother me:
    1. No class changes of any kind, (NB could really use a buff, other classes still have some broken morphs)
    2. Scion form is underwhelming visually, I was expecting to feel like an actual vampire lord.

    These are the 2 things i expected the most and i was disappointed,
    regarding the chapter itself, content, story, sets, new systems, ZOS generally does a great job as usual.
  • Juhasow
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    Both.
  • MincVinyl
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    Im indifferent.This chapter does not affect me at all.
    Only change that needed to happen was server improvement, I and many others would support zos more if the game we already payed for worked.
  • Casul
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    Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
    It's weird. Some of it upsets me, some it it makes me happy. Like. Alot of the monster sets I use got nerfed, but the ones I want to use got buffed. ESO is so complicated.
    PvP needs more love.
  • Urvoth
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    A lot of the stuff looks alright, and there’s a few things I’m excited about and a few changes I don’t like, but bg groups not coming back really kills it for me. At the very least, zos could’ve added duos.
  • Minyassa
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    Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
    I have come to expect major nerfs with every single update so I don't even pay attention to that anymore, I just accepted that I'm never going to feel competent at combat ever again. I just focus on cosmetics and housing. Looks like this chapter has PLENTY of that, so I'm good.
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    I'm a Nb main, that's all I need to say...
    I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.
  • MincVinyl
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    Im indifferent.This chapter does not affect me at all.
    @Ragnaroek93 I'm a stamsorc main, i'm with you there. Vamp atleast should give a damage passive coming out of stealth
  • heaven13
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    With each new patch, my dread for the coming changes increases. Greymoor already looked lackluster so I hadn't bothered pre-ordering and base game update 26 looks like a dumpster fire.
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  • TheHsN
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    *No address to NB
    *Useless and unnecessary Changes to Blood Spawn
    *Nerf to MAG DK - It was not needed
    *Pushing players to Re Grind VMA and DSA vs.
    and many other useless changes and nerfs...
    Edited by TheHsN on April 21, 2020 2:22AM
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    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
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    Magicka DK - PvE
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  • GetAgrippa
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    The wholesale nerf of defensive options while leaving blighted blastbones untouched will be extremely unhealthy for small scale no-cp PVP.
  • Walks_With_Kagouti
    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    It would have been cool if the antiquity system was actually how they were going to bring in spell crafting... you dig to find runes or whatever to craft spells... of well.. missed opportunity.. or later update?

    First pts cycle and my magdk was touched by a nerf to an ability that is both buggy and majority of the time un-used...

    Sets got changed, some for the better (MonSets that were magicka based but had max health, now have magicka based buffs) and some unnecessarily (Bloodspawn... why need this and Engine? Why not instead bring monster sets up to par so it actually means diversity? Cause yuh know, people want to feel strong...). Some new sets are OK.

    Vampire changes and werewolf changes are... indeed changes but nothing really eye catching as this is week 1 and things will most likely be changed (and for the worst?)



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  • Runefang
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    Im indifferent.This chapter does not affect me at all.
    Mostly the new mechanics like vampire abilities, new sets and what minor class changes there are don’t matter to me. The only saving grace is if Kynes is a really fun trial. Will find out this week as people try it out.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Im indifferent.This chapter does not affect me at all.
    I think game performance will be awful until newbies lured to new chapter will go to inactive.. so really no point bothering with builds until U27.
  • Crixus8000
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    20 % heal nerf while also nerfing defensive monster sets then buffing ganking will make pvp very boring in no cp.
  • Vaoh
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    The art team has only improved their work. Big props to them, even if most of the mounts are in Crown Crates. ESO’s issues are unrelated to them.

    You look at the combat balance and performance in this game and it’s the polar opposite. Everyone laughs at how crazy the changes are because anything could get a 1-78% buff or nerf just because why not.
  • GeorgeBlack
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    Im indifferent.This chapter does not affect me at all.
    Until I see server stability + class balance/id restored I wont give a f and wont spend $
  • Dracane
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    Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
    No changes to blastbone, no changes to jabs O.o, betty spam remains and Nightblade receives nothing.
    I am very surprised and suspect they are holding back on changes to not make the initial impression too negative. Otherwise I must say that nearly all feedback regarding class issues have been forgotten.

    I'm on the positive side though. I had expected something more exciting but I am content.
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  • Noxavian
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    OWLTHEMAD wrote: »
    Pretty much what it says. I want there to be something quantifiable for zos to measure dissapointment against enthusiasm. Additionally, id like those who are enthused to really elaborate why so that those of us who are let down might change our minds.

    If your excited say why. If your let down say why.

    Disappointed because of the lack of wings on the vampire ultimate and the general lackluster feel of the vampire rework tbh.

    No turning into a bat swarm with blood mist, no cool ultimate (a bone goliath re-skin isnt cool, and they cant even get the winged appearance right)
  • wheem_ESO
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    GetAgrippa wrote: »
    The wholesale nerf of defensive options while leaving blighted blastbones untouched will be extremely unhealthy for small scale no-cp PVP.
    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    20 % heal nerf while also nerfing defensive monster sets then buffing ganking will make pvp very boring in no cp.
    Indeed. It looks like basically all magicka builds will become glass cannons, even if they actively try to build for defense. Stamina builds may be in a little better shape due to greater ability to spam dodge rolls, but I think there's still going to be a whole lot of insta-deaths going around. And if I wanted that style of PvP I'd go play a first person shooter, not an MMO.
  • OWLTHEMAD
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    wheem_ESO wrote: »
    GetAgrippa wrote: »
    The wholesale nerf of defensive options while leaving blighted blastbones untouched will be extremely unhealthy for small scale no-cp PVP.
    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    20 % heal nerf while also nerfing defensive monster sets then buffing ganking will make pvp very boring in no cp.
    Indeed. It looks like basically all magicka builds will become glass cannons, even if they actively try to build for defense. Stamina builds may be in a little better shape due to greater ability to spam dodge rolls, but I think there's still going to be a whole lot of insta-deaths going around. And if I wanted that style of PvP I'd go play a first person shooter, not an MMO.

    Devils advocate here, but at least its a blow to the horrible tank meta. I think thats what alot of the gear changes are addressing. But again, they are buffing ganking playstyle indirectly, while not increasing the nightblades viability in literally anyother playstyle.
  • xaraan
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    I don't even know that it "effects me negatively" it was just so blah that I was left feeling worse than just indifferent.

    I guess my issue is that I'm just not excited about the patch and actually kind of bummed I pre-ordered it.

    The vMA/vDSA weapon thing not being upgraded is an obvious negative, though that bothers me more on a disrespect level than on any statistical level. Like I could actually deal with horrible changes on a 'not taking it personal' level than I can what they are doing to players from my point of view.

    But even not counting that I can't say I'm pumped for vampires or werewolves and the new antiquities system does not look fun at all. The dig part looks like a really cheesy mobile game, like I'm not a hardcore "my immersion" guy, but god does that snap me right out of the game.

    None of the item sets look like anything I'm excited to run. Some like the magDPS trial set I'm dreading having to run as a support.

    The only thing that looked good to me was the new furnishings looked neat and the new precision movement for housing was great. And of course a shout out to the art/design team, as usual the zones look amazing.

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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    Shocking results
  • OtarTheMad
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    Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
    It wasn't as bad as I thought, some things had me scratching my head but overall it was good. PvP was full of tanky players who could just tank, heal and purge all damage so this change will make them think a bit.

    Also, some monster sets I use did get nerfed but if I use some of the top/best defensive monster sets and all defensive monster sets got nerfed, doesn't that mean the ones I use are still at the top? So, yeah it's okay.

    Got to do more testing but I think it'll be okay, REAL question is what bugs will this bring that the PTS won't show?
  • BalticBlues
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    Same as all recent patches: MORE NERFS and LESS FUN :s
    Especially bad is that PvE tanking will suck because of PvP nerfs.
    ZOS why don't you just cut all monster sets to 50% in PvP instead of making PvE suck?

    Edited by BalticBlues on April 21, 2020 4:38AM
  • Anbokr
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    Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
    Excited. Hyped for the werewolf buffs, long time coming.
  • Alucardo
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    Bloodspawn nerfed. It was arguably one of their better designed monster sets. It was strong, but quite balanced, which is why it remained unchanged for so long. They started nerfing every other monster set, so I guess it was just a matter of time before old faithful Bloodspawn caught up.
    Bashing damage reduced by 80%?? Come on man.

    I'm tempted to uninstall at this point, but it is only on PTS and things could change. Unlikely, but I've got to have hope.
    Edited by Alucardo on April 21, 2020 4:48AM
  • DCanadianBacon
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    Overwhelmingly, the patch is a disappointment. I've long given up on being outraged at every PTS cycle, I just don't care anymore, because I've come to expect it.

    The ONLY thing about this patch that excites me are the Werewolf changes, which I'm sure if they go live, will only last one patch cycle and will be subsequently nerfed again because people will complain about the influx of WW in PvP. :disappointed: l:
  • OWLTHEMAD
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    Im dissapointed. This chapter mostly affects me negatively.
    I dont mind bash losing damage. It shouldnt be a factor in dps. But i can understand the complaints of those who put a lot of work just to get that extra margin damage.

    The problem is a lot of sweaty guilds will make you master that before letting you into trials, and a lot of wannabe sweaty guilds will be even worse about it. The latter is far more numerous and absurd tequirements like that arew what keep people out of trials.
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Bloodspawn nerfed. It was arguably one of their better designed monster sets. It was strong, but quite balanced, which is why it remained unchanged for so long. They started nerfing every other monster set, so I guess it was just a matter of time before old faithful Bloodspawn caught up.
    Bashing damage reduced by 80%?? Come on man.

    I'm tempted to uninstall at this point, but it is only on PTS and things could change. Unlikely, but I've got to have hope.

  • Narvuntien
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    Im enthusiastic. This chapter is mostly positive
    I actually like the Vampire changes.

    Finally, a patch that's a bunch of small changes instead of breaking the game every patch isn't that what you wanted?

    Balrogs nerf messed with my build but vampire changes probably make up for it (we will see)
    Edited by Narvuntien on April 21, 2020 4:56AM
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