I want an option to draw other PCs with lore appropriate outfits.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Some of you would have complained that outfits from TES 3 Morrowind were breaking your immersion. Bug robes? Garish yellow and orange?
Heavens to Murgatroyd, how will we cope with clothes that aren't boring or done in the same series of muted greyish dyes from Skyrim?
(Let's not mention the poison-green glass armor from Oblivion, shall we? Or Arvak.)Edited by VaranisArano on April 16, 2020 7:44AM12 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »
Again, no. Unless you are literally saying that loading screens are canon, and in Tamriel you have to go through loading screens every time you enter a building or cross from Northern to Southern Elsweyr, there are obviously aspects of games that exist for game design rather than lore building. And no one at ZOS is going to say that the male Orc xXxSparkyPantsxXx was genuinely Emperor of Cyrodiil and wore a bright pink dress and rode a sparkly mushroom pony, canonically.Darkstorne wrote: »
The events are canon. That doesn’t mean every single visual detail is canon. You know that. You wouldn’t take the world’s scale in ESO as canon, or the “whoops, we forgot to leave a space for Blacklight in Morrowind” as canon, or the presence of loading screens separating zones as canon, would you? Some aspects are clearly for the game, not canon, and selling whales peacock outfits and mounts are part of that.
ESO has done a lot to challenge MMO norms and evolve the genre though, and I love them for that. One Tamriel removing level gating for example, when a lot of unimaginative folks would say “it’s an MMO, it has to have level gating.” I’m convinced that one day we’ll see an MMO learn when it’s a good idea to phase players into solo instances, and when it’s best to phase into multiplayer instances. Delves and questing in the overland or villages and small towns would be much better solo for instance, where the game challenge is designed for solo play, and MMO tropes like respawns would no longer need to be relied on as a crutch. Delve design could be vastly improved as a result, with guaranteed chests at the end of dungeons like single player TES games. World bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and larger towns and cities could all auto phase in other players. That way immersion is improved while questing or exploring, and players are still around when you actually want them to be. Until then, we’re stuck with peacocks though
Take this beautiful gameplay video for Greymoor for example. Looks gorgeous! But sadly not representative of the game without smart phasing tech, since it’s missing all the peacocked players running and jumping around, sprinting through the delves animation cancelling their way to the boss faster than you can so you just have a corpse-littered walk instead of a fun delve...
https://youtu.be/gJodQfNx-ws
The funny part about this canon stuff, is that every single TES game "broke the lore" somehow but still "became lore". That's the part we disagree. Until tes6, blades or eso2 come out and explain why we had these things and now we dont anymore, or Bethesda comes out saying "yeah, that was dumb", it is what it is.
And I'm not saying it isn't distracting and silly, there's a reason my characters are all proper geared with back stories and lore aligned looks. I'm saying, however, that orc male maid riding a psijiic camel and having a small dragon as a pet, absurd as it may seem, is something we have to accept "actually" happened in the history on tamriel. If the dragonborn and nerevarine and whoever else had their "proper looks", sadly to gatekeepers, the vestige dressed like it's 2020 in New York or LA. If the vestige had a different, more spearheading, taste for looks, that's not enough to make that vestige non canon. That's only enough to make it look like an attention seeker.
Whether an attention seeker would ever be the hero of all tamriel many times over, that's another debate entirely, and one I'm not gonna delve into.
I just say Caligula - if you want an example for how crazy emperors can be.3 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »I really hope this game doesn't keep selling out to gimmick cash shop skins.
Look at what guild wars 2 just did. It makes playing hard to stomach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QoCh75C4dI
can i have this as mount ?
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On that note... I personally feel more vexed by names that are not at least somewhat immersive then that orc who has to wear a pink wedding dress because he lost a drunken dare the other night (see, you can find a immersive fluff explaination for almost everything...Darkstorne wrote: »And no one at ZOS is going to say that the male Orc xXxSparkyPantsxXx was genuinely Emperor of Cyrodiil and wore a bright pink dress and rode a sparkly mushroom pony, canonically.
) - but I have learned not to let it stop me from my having fun in ESO, and just ignore such things... so there is that.
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Darkstorne✭✭✭✭✭
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I do like seashells...Darkstorne wrote: »
Again, no. Unless you are literally saying that loading screens are canon, and in Tamriel you have to go through loading screens every time you enter a building or cross from Northern to Southern Elsweyr, there are obviously aspects of games that exist for game design rather than lore building. And no one at ZOS is going to say that the male Orc xXxSparkyPantsxXx was genuinely Emperor of Cyrodiil and wore a bright pink dress and rode a sparkly mushroom pony, canonically.Darkstorne wrote: »
The events are canon. That doesn’t mean every single visual detail is canon. You know that. You wouldn’t take the world’s scale in ESO as canon, or the “whoops, we forgot to leave a space for Blacklight in Morrowind” as canon, or the presence of loading screens separating zones as canon, would you? Some aspects are clearly for the game, not canon, and selling whales peacock outfits and mounts are part of that.
ESO has done a lot to challenge MMO norms and evolve the genre though, and I love them for that. One Tamriel removing level gating for example, when a lot of unimaginative folks would say “it’s an MMO, it has to have level gating.” I’m convinced that one day we’ll see an MMO learn when it’s a good idea to phase players into solo instances, and when it’s best to phase into multiplayer instances. Delves and questing in the overland or villages and small towns would be much better solo for instance, where the game challenge is designed for solo play, and MMO tropes like respawns would no longer need to be relied on as a crutch. Delve design could be vastly improved as a result, with guaranteed chests at the end of dungeons like single player TES games. World bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and larger towns and cities could all auto phase in other players. That way immersion is improved while questing or exploring, and players are still around when you actually want them to be. Until then, we’re stuck with peacocks though
Take this beautiful gameplay video for Greymoor for example. Looks gorgeous! But sadly not representative of the game without smart phasing tech, since it’s missing all the peacocked players running and jumping around, sprinting through the delves animation cancelling their way to the boss faster than you can so you just have a corpse-littered walk instead of a fun delve...
https://youtu.be/gJodQfNx-ws
The funny part about this canon stuff, is that every single TES game "broke the lore" somehow but still "became lore". That's the part we disagree. Until tes6, blades or eso2 come out and explain why we had these things and now we dont anymore, or Bethesda comes out saying "yeah, that was dumb", it is what it is.
And I'm not saying it isn't distracting and silly, there's a reason my characters are all proper geared with back stories and lore aligned looks. I'm saying, however, that orc male maid riding a psijiic camel and having a small dragon as a pet, absurd as it may seem, is something we have to accept "actually" happened in the history on tamriel. If the dragonborn and nerevarine and whoever else had their "proper looks", sadly to gatekeepers, the vestige dressed like it's 2020 in New York or LA. If the vestige had a different, more spearheading, taste for looks, that's not enough to make that vestige non canon. That's only enough to make it look like an attention seeker.
Whether an attention seeker would ever be the hero of all tamriel many times over, that's another debate entirely, and one I'm not gonna delve into.
I just say Caligula - if you want an example for how crazy emperors can be.
Was Caligula replaced by another Caligula repeatedly, on an almost daily basis, for years? And again, do you believe loading screens are canon in Tamriel? It’s okay to admit game design necessitates restrictions. I have no idea why so many of you are so desperate to defend crown store whale hunting as canon. It’s okay to admit that’s gamification, and just like loading screens and the complete absence of Blacklight on the map, probably not entirely representative of Tamriel canonically.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »
I do like seashells...Darkstorne wrote: »
Again, no. Unless you are literally saying that loading screens are canon, and in Tamriel you have to go through loading screens every time you enter a building or cross from Northern to Southern Elsweyr, there are obviously aspects of games that exist for game design rather than lore building. And no one at ZOS is going to say that the male Orc xXxSparkyPantsxXx was genuinely Emperor of Cyrodiil and wore a bright pink dress and rode a sparkly mushroom pony, canonically.Darkstorne wrote: »
The events are canon. That doesn’t mean every single visual detail is canon. You know that. You wouldn’t take the world’s scale in ESO as canon, or the “whoops, we forgot to leave a space for Blacklight in Morrowind” as canon, or the presence of loading screens separating zones as canon, would you? Some aspects are clearly for the game, not canon, and selling whales peacock outfits and mounts are part of that.
ESO has done a lot to challenge MMO norms and evolve the genre though, and I love them for that. One Tamriel removing level gating for example, when a lot of unimaginative folks would say “it’s an MMO, it has to have level gating.” I’m convinced that one day we’ll see an MMO learn when it’s a good idea to phase players into solo instances, and when it’s best to phase into multiplayer instances. Delves and questing in the overland or villages and small towns would be much better solo for instance, where the game challenge is designed for solo play, and MMO tropes like respawns would no longer need to be relied on as a crutch. Delve design could be vastly improved as a result, with guaranteed chests at the end of dungeons like single player TES games. World bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and larger towns and cities could all auto phase in other players. That way immersion is improved while questing or exploring, and players are still around when you actually want them to be. Until then, we’re stuck with peacocks though
Take this beautiful gameplay video for Greymoor for example. Looks gorgeous! But sadly not representative of the game without smart phasing tech, since it’s missing all the peacocked players running and jumping around, sprinting through the delves animation cancelling their way to the boss faster than you can so you just have a corpse-littered walk instead of a fun delve...
https://youtu.be/gJodQfNx-ws
The funny part about this canon stuff, is that every single TES game "broke the lore" somehow but still "became lore". That's the part we disagree. Until tes6, blades or eso2 come out and explain why we had these things and now we dont anymore, or Bethesda comes out saying "yeah, that was dumb", it is what it is.
And I'm not saying it isn't distracting and silly, there's a reason my characters are all proper geared with back stories and lore aligned looks. I'm saying, however, that orc male maid riding a psijiic camel and having a small dragon as a pet, absurd as it may seem, is something we have to accept "actually" happened in the history on tamriel. If the dragonborn and nerevarine and whoever else had their "proper looks", sadly to gatekeepers, the vestige dressed like it's 2020 in New York or LA. If the vestige had a different, more spearheading, taste for looks, that's not enough to make that vestige non canon. That's only enough to make it look like an attention seeker.
Whether an attention seeker would ever be the hero of all tamriel many times over, that's another debate entirely, and one I'm not gonna delve into.
I just say Caligula - if you want an example for how crazy emperors can be.
Was Caligula replaced by another Caligula repeatedly, on an almost daily basis, for years? And again, do you believe loading screens are canon in Tamriel? It’s okay to admit game design necessitates restrictions. I have no idea why so many of you are so desperate to defend crown store whale hunting as canon. It’s okay to admit that’s gamification, and just like loading screens and the complete absence of Blacklight on the map, probably not entirely representative of Tamriel canonically.
I'm not defending it - i would be happy if we wouldn't have flashy mounts and weird outfits at all - but they are in game and you can't take them away now and when I'm wearing a costume then to be able to control how I look to others in the game. I wouldn't want them to just alter my looks after their liking or not having any control over how I look to them. And I consider costumes to be illusion magic.
I got used to Orcs in wedding dresses meanwhile - no longer bothered by it.
Costumes and being able to dye them in any way we want is part of the ESO+ perks - I like this feature a lot.Edited by Lysette on April 16, 2020 8:02AM0 -
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✭✭Could use more Caligula. A healthy mixture between the historical lunatic emperor and Malcolm McDowell's cinematic version rolled into being a new ESO antagonist would bring all sorts of entertainment as well to outshine the self loathing peacocks who hate that they got outshined by another peacock in game.0 -
Eifleber✭✭✭✭✭Nowadays almost all MMOs are a version of Pokemon online.
Never really understood why the desire for mandatory cartoony artwork in a fantasy world.❆
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ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »
Again, no. Unless you are literally saying that loading screens are canon, and in Tamriel you have to go through loading screens every time you enter a building or cross from Northern to Southern Elsweyr, there are obviously aspects of games that exist for game design rather than lore building. And no one at ZOS is going to say that the male Orc xXxSparkyPantsxXx was genuinely Emperor of Cyrodiil and wore a bright pink dress and rode a sparkly mushroom pony, canonically.Darkstorne wrote: »
The events are canon. That doesn’t mean every single visual detail is canon. You know that. You wouldn’t take the world’s scale in ESO as canon, or the “whoops, we forgot to leave a space for Blacklight in Morrowind” as canon, or the presence of loading screens separating zones as canon, would you? Some aspects are clearly for the game, not canon, and selling whales peacock outfits and mounts are part of that.
ESO has done a lot to challenge MMO norms and evolve the genre though, and I love them for that. One Tamriel removing level gating for example, when a lot of unimaginative folks would say “it’s an MMO, it has to have level gating.” I’m convinced that one day we’ll see an MMO learn when it’s a good idea to phase players into solo instances, and when it’s best to phase into multiplayer instances. Delves and questing in the overland or villages and small towns would be much better solo for instance, where the game challenge is designed for solo play, and MMO tropes like respawns would no longer need to be relied on as a crutch. Delve design could be vastly improved as a result, with guaranteed chests at the end of dungeons like single player TES games. World bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and larger towns and cities could all auto phase in other players. That way immersion is improved while questing or exploring, and players are still around when you actually want them to be. Until then, we’re stuck with peacocks though
Take this beautiful gameplay video for Greymoor for example. Looks gorgeous! But sadly not representative of the game without smart phasing tech, since it’s missing all the peacocked players running and jumping around, sprinting through the delves animation cancelling their way to the boss faster than you can so you just have a corpse-littered walk instead of a fun delve...
https://youtu.be/gJodQfNx-ws
The funny part about this canon stuff, is that every single TES game "broke the lore" somehow but still "became lore". That's the part we disagree. Until tes6, blades or eso2 come out and explain why we had these things and now we dont anymore, or Bethesda comes out saying "yeah, that was dumb", it is what it is.
And I'm not saying it isn't distracting and silly, there's a reason my characters are all proper geared with back stories and lore aligned looks. I'm saying, however, that orc male maid riding a psijiic camel and having a small dragon as a pet, absurd as it may seem, is something we have to accept "actually" happened in the history on tamriel. If the dragonborn and nerevarine and whoever else had their "proper looks", sadly to gatekeepers, the vestige dressed like it's 2020 in New York or LA. If the vestige had a different, more spearheading, taste for looks, that's not enough to make that vestige non canon. That's only enough to make it look like an attention seeker.
Whether an attention seeker would ever be the hero of all tamriel many times over, that's another debate entirely, and one I'm not gonna delve into.
Don't push it. You're talking game play/design, I'm talking story telling. Be reasonable, please?
Also, who is the emperor isn't exactly xxx_mrcrankypants69_xxx but "the vestige". Much like the hero in Skyrim is "the dragonborn" bit you could name your bro whatever you wanted. This is key.
As for who is the emperor, lorewise there no papers or books about this war, about how it ended. There no "emperor", lorewise. You can claim to be the emperor because you hold the keeps(meaning you hold the city) but until way is over, there's no true emperor, and that's why zos won't say anything like you suggest, about the looks of the emperor/vestige. The vestige never is *really* emperor. That's also key.
This is actually pretty nicely done gone design to fit the lore. How they'll leave the corner they put themselves into, I have NO clue. Eventually they have to move on from ESO and tell the story of who won the war, maybe saying "and the vestige United them all through sheer power by defeating molag Bal" or whatever.Edited by ZonasArch on April 16, 2020 8:38AM2 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nowadays almost all MMOs are a version of Pokemon online.
Never really understood why the desire for mandatory cartoony artwork in a fantasy world.
People do that in single player games as well - there are plenty of mods to run around as hatsune miku or in a sailor moon costume or whatever - or think of hairstyle and clothes mods - modern hair styles and girly or even fetish outfits.Edited by Lysette on April 16, 2020 8:32AM1 -
Mortiis13✭✭✭✭Those poor people are touched by uncle sheo, for me its immersive enough.
They are also curses turning u into a skeleton, there is a talking crystal head that knows Everything, in a quest u have to transform into a goblin.
So nothing wrong with a mentally ill, drunk nord wearing a golden dress, a cowskullhead and dancing on tables.3 -
Thannazzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pre launch the developers talked about a server questionnaire in which, if you opted for a lore friendly rp environment you would only ever see players in game that complied with that approach from a name & appearance perspective.
Sadly that was abandoned.
It would be great if those on your ignore list were invisible to you as well as being silent in zone chat etc.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Unfortunately, being a reckless spender doesn't correlate with good taste. So welcome to He-Man and Princess Barbie Online.3 -
L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭I really do like huge orc males in pink lacy wedding dresses, I don't see what would break the lore here.Edited by L_Nici on April 16, 2020 11:07AMPC|EU3 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »
I do like seashells...Darkstorne wrote: »
Again, no. Unless you are literally saying that loading screens are canon, and in Tamriel you have to go through loading screens every time you enter a building or cross from Northern to Southern Elsweyr, there are obviously aspects of games that exist for game design rather than lore building. And no one at ZOS is going to say that the male Orc xXxSparkyPantsxXx was genuinely Emperor of Cyrodiil and wore a bright pink dress and rode a sparkly mushroom pony, canonically.Darkstorne wrote: »
The events are canon. That doesn’t mean every single visual detail is canon. You know that. You wouldn’t take the world’s scale in ESO as canon, or the “whoops, we forgot to leave a space for Blacklight in Morrowind” as canon, or the presence of loading screens separating zones as canon, would you? Some aspects are clearly for the game, not canon, and selling whales peacock outfits and mounts are part of that.
ESO has done a lot to challenge MMO norms and evolve the genre though, and I love them for that. One Tamriel removing level gating for example, when a lot of unimaginative folks would say “it’s an MMO, it has to have level gating.” I’m convinced that one day we’ll see an MMO learn when it’s a good idea to phase players into solo instances, and when it’s best to phase into multiplayer instances. Delves and questing in the overland or villages and small towns would be much better solo for instance, where the game challenge is designed for solo play, and MMO tropes like respawns would no longer need to be relied on as a crutch. Delve design could be vastly improved as a result, with guaranteed chests at the end of dungeons like single player TES games. World bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, and larger towns and cities could all auto phase in other players. That way immersion is improved while questing or exploring, and players are still around when you actually want them to be. Until then, we’re stuck with peacocks though
Take this beautiful gameplay video for Greymoor for example. Looks gorgeous! But sadly not representative of the game without smart phasing tech, since it’s missing all the peacocked players running and jumping around, sprinting through the delves animation cancelling their way to the boss faster than you can so you just have a corpse-littered walk instead of a fun delve...
https://youtu.be/gJodQfNx-ws
The funny part about this canon stuff, is that every single TES game "broke the lore" somehow but still "became lore". That's the part we disagree. Until tes6, blades or eso2 come out and explain why we had these things and now we dont anymore, or Bethesda comes out saying "yeah, that was dumb", it is what it is.
And I'm not saying it isn't distracting and silly, there's a reason my characters are all proper geared with back stories and lore aligned looks. I'm saying, however, that orc male maid riding a psijiic camel and having a small dragon as a pet, absurd as it may seem, is something we have to accept "actually" happened in the history on tamriel. If the dragonborn and nerevarine and whoever else had their "proper looks", sadly to gatekeepers, the vestige dressed like it's 2020 in New York or LA. If the vestige had a different, more spearheading, taste for looks, that's not enough to make that vestige non canon. That's only enough to make it look like an attention seeker.
Whether an attention seeker would ever be the hero of all tamriel many times over, that's another debate entirely, and one I'm not gonna delve into.
I just say Caligula - if you want an example for how crazy emperors can be.
Was Caligula replaced by another Caligula repeatedly, on an almost daily basis, for years? And again, do you believe loading screens are canon in Tamriel? It’s okay to admit game design necessitates restrictions. I have no idea why so many of you are so desperate to defend crown store whale hunting as canon. It’s okay to admit that’s gamification, and just like loading screens and the complete absence of Blacklight on the map, probably not entirely representative of Tamriel canonically.
Actually one of the few things we knew about this era prior to ESO was that there were a ton of emperors who nobody really remembered because it was a time of unrest and chaos. That much is still true.2 -
A_Silverius✭✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »I really hope this game doesn't keep selling out to gimmick cash shop skins.
Look at what guild wars 2 just did. It makes playing hard to stomach.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QoCh75C4dI
They actually have a lore explanation for that at least, the mount is based on the GW2 April Fools Event called Super Adventure Box which is a virtual reality world created by a race called the Asura.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJJyma0mMU&ab_channel=GuildWars2
I however have a hard time seeing players with these lore-breaking skins and not to mention the many glowing mounts running around in Tamriel.
All over Tamriel, theres a sudden spike in Bosmers getting caught for their crimes. A sad day indeed... #FightForYourRite Give Bosmers back our stealth!0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭A_Silverius wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »I really hope this game doesn't keep selling out to gimmick cash shop skins.
Look at what guild wars 2 just did. It makes playing hard to stomach.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QoCh75C4dI
They actually have a lore explanation for that at least, the mount is based on the GW2 April Fools Event called Super Adventure Box which is a virtual reality world created by a race called the Asura.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJJyma0mMU&ab_channel=GuildWars2
I however have a hard time seeing players with these lore-breaking skins and not to mention the many glowing mounts running around in Tamriel.
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✭✭✭✭✭A_Silverius wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »I really hope this game doesn't keep selling out to gimmick cash shop skins.
Look at what guild wars 2 just did. It makes playing hard to stomach.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QoCh75C4dI
They actually have a lore explanation for that at least, the mount is based on the GW2 April Fools Event called Super Adventure Box which is a virtual reality world created by a race called the Asura.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJJyma0mMU&ab_channel=GuildWars2
I however have a hard time seeing players with these lore-breaking skins and not to mention the many glowing mounts running around in Tamriel.
You probably should try out any of the content/stories related to those skins before you call it "lore breaking" or read some descriptions at the very least.9 -
A_Silverius✭✭✭✭✭colossalvoids wrote: »A_Silverius wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »I really hope this game doesn't keep selling out to gimmick cash shop skins.
Look at what guild wars 2 just did. It makes playing hard to stomach.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QoCh75C4dI
They actually have a lore explanation for that at least, the mount is based on the GW2 April Fools Event called Super Adventure Box which is a virtual reality world created by a race called the Asura.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJJyma0mMU&ab_channel=GuildWars2
I however have a hard time seeing players with these lore-breaking skins and not to mention the many glowing mounts running around in Tamriel.
You probably should try out any of the content/stories related to those skins before you call it "lore breaking" or read some descriptions at the very least.
Sure, but then you got descriptions like this:
"“Kaoc! That luridly patterned Scale Skin style worn by the Bright-Throats is far too gaudy. Could a serious person appear in public like that? I think not.” – Jaxsik-Orrn of the Dead-Water Tribe"
Hardly an explanation of the lore.All over Tamriel, theres a sudden spike in Bosmers getting caught for their crimes. A sad day indeed... #FightForYourRite Give Bosmers back our stealth!2 -
A_Silverius✭✭✭✭✭Just tell yourself they worship Uncle Sheo....
Boom...lore friendly attire!
🧀
That would make sense actually if they replaced molag bal's invasion with Sheogorath.All over Tamriel, theres a sudden spike in Bosmers getting caught for their crimes. A sad day indeed... #FightForYourRite Give Bosmers back our stealth!0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Do you try to police how people look and dress irl? Because part of sharing the world with other people means dealing with the fact that they sometimes behave or appear in a way we wouldn’t want them to. And that’s their choice.
I too dislike the flashy mounts and skins. But I do not want any developer time being spent on suppressing them.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche10 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, I would like to be able to derender all but friends - what about that?- It is an MMO and in the end we will have to tolerate each other to a certain point. I don't like the glowing mounts with all these noisy and flashy summoning effects and lasting particles later on, but it is unlikely that it will disappear. People paid for it and I guess they want it to be seen.
There's clearly justification in the argument that having paid for it they want to see it themselves, but I don't see any justification in the argument that they want other people to see it. That simply puts them in the same category as forum posters who insist on creating a new topic with the heading in caps rather than adding their comment to an existing topic.It's attaching a level of self-importance among others that simply isn't justified.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭A_Silverius wrote: »colossalvoids wrote: »A_Silverius wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »I really hope this game doesn't keep selling out to gimmick cash shop skins.
Look at what guild wars 2 just did. It makes playing hard to stomach.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QoCh75C4dI
They actually have a lore explanation for that at least, the mount is based on the GW2 April Fools Event called Super Adventure Box which is a virtual reality world created by a race called the Asura.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJJyma0mMU&ab_channel=GuildWars2
I however have a hard time seeing players with these lore-breaking skins and not to mention the many glowing mounts running around in Tamriel.
You probably should try out any of the content/stories related to those skins before you call it "lore breaking" or read some descriptions at the very least.
Sure, but then you got descriptions like this:
"“Kaoc! That luridly patterned Scale Skin style worn by the Bright-Throats is far too gaudy. Could a serious person appear in public like that? I think not.” – Jaxsik-Orrn of the Dead-Water Tribe"
Hardly an explanation of the lore.
If I'm getting you right it's lore breaking that some particular argonian tribe may cover their scales with some pigment or chalks? Not sure you're serious or not with that exact example. Other skins represent kinda same concept, like being afflicted by some disease or curse, undergoing some reachman ritual or simple paining yourself with ritual paint for the sake of it. Hardly it's breaking anything, but it seems subjective and depends on ones imagination and experience.3 -
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✭Giving someone the option to turn other player outfits on or off is good for more than just aesthetic reasons, if someone has a bad computer it might help them with loading times and improve their performance in Cyrodiil. I don't see the harm in allowing players to choose what they would prefer to see, as long as one can still see every vanity outfit if they leave the want to.“Whatever.”
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✭✭Costumes and being able to dye them in any way we want is part of the ESO+ perks - I like this feature a lot.
So do I... mostly.
The character that I saw 2 days ago in heavy armour that was entirely pink except for his purple helmet?
... that I could have done without seeing. I literally did a double-take at the screen.
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