What content exactly has a minimum damage threshold so high that it requires good weaving to clear it?

vSS hm the Time Rift

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Agenericname wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

its different for every person. because it is dependent on your reflexes, sense of timing and rhythm, connection including latency, how quickly if at all you develop muscle memory, whether you are able bodies.. heck even individual age can contribute.

there will always be someone who will get it right away, someone who will get it with some practice, someone for whom it would take far too much practice to justify spending THAT much time on a video game and someone who will not be able to learn the execution at all.

as for post above claiming that you don't need it to clear content? false. you do. because even though mechanics are paramount, there IS a minimum requirement of damage that must happen in order for the boss to die before the group gets overwhelmed. being really good on a target dummy is not enough, but you still need to be able to deal a certain amount of damage WHILE executing mechanics. for harder content in the game - its not one or the other. its both.

What content exactly has a minimum damage threshold so high that it requires good weaving to clear it?

I would love to know the answer to this too.

There is no content that requires good weaving to clear it. that question is completely distorted to what the previous comment was saying.
That said, there are several dungeons and trials that have what you usually call a DPS race, where you, indeed, need to have a minimum DPS as a group.
one that's pretty simple but comes to mind is CoA II.
And given that Light attacks are a fairly big part of the overall DPS, yeah, weaving make it "at least" easier.
Do you need 1000000000k DPS? not at all. But there ARE dps races.

There is no content that requires good weaving to clear it. that question is completely distorted to what the previous comment was saying.

Like I said... vSS hm time rift is a hard DPS check. 11,3 mio in 90 seconds, from 3 players = 42k dps each, self sustained, while playing the mechanics. Do that without weaving and I'm officially impressed.

RottingAlien wrote: »

thorwyn wrote: »

There is no content that requires good weaving to clear it. that question is completely distorted to what the previous comment was saying.

Like I said... vSS hm time rift is a hard DPS check. 11,3 mio in 90 seconds, from 3 players = 42k dps each, self sustained, while playing the mechanics. Do that without weaving and I'm officially impressed.

I said "good weaving" as in, super pro... of course you need weaving, and i'm basically agreeing with you xD

you seem to have missed my point though. becasue you have just acknowledged that you need weaving. there are degrees between super pro and unable to get the fingers and timing to line up. those degrees also require practice, amount of which depends on individual WHICH WAS THE POINT I WAS MAKING.

I used to go to music school with a bunch of people but the two I wanted to bring up was an exceptionally gifted guy and a girl who was not gifted in any way (small hands, no natural ability). me I was closer to the girl in my natural affinity. both of them were very very good. except.. the dude could sit down, play a composition a few times and bam - he had it just about perfectly memorized. it would take me days and days of practice just to memorize it and I would still make errors while playing. the other girl? she'd get to the point where she could play perfectly. but it took her pretty much having NO life and practicing every free moment.

but here is the thing. that girl? she wanted to play professionally. she wanted to make music her career. last I checked she still hasn't become a concert pianist, but she IS a music teacher and performs occasionally on much smaller scale. talented dude? only really did music cause his parents wanted him to. and me... well - I wanted to do other thing and being pushed into practice to the degree of having to give up on just about all of my social life... made me give up on playing for almost 2 decades, I resented it so much. all 3 of us studied with the same teacher and sometimes even took turns practicing in the same room, where school didn't have individual rooms available, so that's how I know what it took for those 2 to learn something.

the reason I bring it up because while yes. its possible to get very decent with practice, even if you have no natural ability.. is the time investment worth the results? for a video game? and yes, for some people learning that some skill takes no time at all, maybe because they have experience with similar skills from elsewhere, so muscle memory is already partly there. or just because they gifted and so it comes easier for them. but that doesn't mean that just because they can do it - everyone can. and the end game content? is NOT balanced for someone who is struggling. "but you have all the story content" you say. yes. yes we do. that very same content that the rest of you complain about being too easy.

Learning how to do it is easy; it's extremely simple in theory and easy to get into: just spam left click while timing your ability casts.

Getting good at it is another thing; it requires quite a bit of experience and practice either on a target dummy or, even better, actual dungeons and trials. Getting the timings down correctly and successfully nailing most (if not all) of your light attacks while maintaining a fast and fluid rotation is not as easy as it looks, especially when you hop into a trial and experience any sort of lag or framerate drops.

Some people need more practice than others. Some people are naturally good at it and master it within minutes of trying it. In the end, I suggest that you stop worrying about it and just keep trying to light weave through any content you run if you want to master it.