Have you seen the steam charts lately?

relentless_turnip · April 2020

ESO is up to 17,572 players in the last month!!!

This is nearly as many for the launch of Elsweyr... Imagine how busy it will be when Greymoor drops 😂

https://steamcharts.com/app/306130

Saelent · April 2020

Did the last ones stay? Will these stay?

Kel · April 2020

Everyone's at home due to a worldwide pandemic.
Only natural all games will see a influx of players.

Iskiab · April 2020

Saelent wrote: »

Did the last ones stay? Will these stay?

Who cares, I just hope they buy something so ZoS has the cash to fix the servers.

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Saelent wrote: »

Did the last ones stay? Will these stay?

Judging by the past figures(in the link) some leave, a large majority stay as population growth is greater every year.

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Iskiab wrote: »

Saelent wrote: »

Did the last ones stay? Will these stay?

Who cares, I just hope they buy something so ZoS has the cash to fix the servers.

😂 Yup...

Mancombe_Nosehair · April 2020

Check out the peak no of players of the right..

rumple9 · April 2020

It's half that. Most of the numbers are duplicated by people trying to log in

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »

Check out the peak no of players of the right..

Jesus!!! I didn't even notice that, that's the most there have ever been according to Steam.

relentless_turnip · April 2020

rumple9 wrote: »

It's half that. Most of the numbers are duplicated by people trying to log in

I'm not sure that's correct... how do you know that's how it works?

Saelent · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

The_Lex wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Saelent wrote: »

Did the last ones stay? Will these stay?

Who cares, I just hope they buy something so ZoS has the cash to fix the servers.

Oh, they'll get the cash. But you're kidding yourself if you think ZOS will use the cash to fix their servers.

I'm quite sure a lot of it is invested into FO76

That would be unfortunate and is probably the case...something has to keep that fire pit going.

Ri_Khan · April 2020

So where's all the usual sycophants insisting the steam numbers are completely irrelevant and in no way represent the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that.

Oh right...different narrative this time. So which one is it???

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Ri_Khan wrote: »

So where's all the usual sycophants insisting the steam numbers are completely irrelevant and in no way represent the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that.

Oh right...different narrative this time. So which one is it???

You are right.
If I had in anyway stated that ESO is popular and provided this link as evidence I would have been told I was an idiot and the game is dying!

Some people seem to be confused at how statistics are formed...

Hanokihs · April 2020

Ri_Khan wrote: »

So where's all the usual sycophants insisting the steam numbers are completely irrelevant and in no way represent the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that.

Oh right...different narrative this time. So which one is it???

Lol where's the narrative? More people are home, they're bored, the game is/was temporarily free to try out, and there's an event on. Perfect storm of "C'mon people, get in here!"

Tandor · April 2020

Ri_Khan wrote: »

So where's all the usual sycophants insisting the steam numbers are completely irrelevant and in no way represent the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that.

Oh right...different narrative this time. So which one is it???

That works both ways. Where are the doomsayers who said the game was dying and that the falling Steam figures proved it because they represented the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that

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The reality is that the Steam figures are just that, representative of how well the game is doing on Steam. When the Steam figures fell they did so pretty much within normal seasonal/cyclical parameters, but the rise in the current figures exceeds any previous variations by a country mile.

I wouldn't claim they are representative of the game as a whole, consistent with my view when the Steam figures were low, but they are very positive nonetheless. Equally, they reflect the reality so far as performance is concerned, because those figures wouldn't be sustained if the problems some are experiencing were more widely experienced.

Seperatist · April 2020

Probably some of them sitting in launcher trying to get their game to run, don't forget steam counts launcher online hours so

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Tandor wrote: »

Ri_Khan wrote: »

So where's all the usual sycophants insisting the steam numbers are completely irrelevant and in no way represent the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that.

Oh right...different narrative this time. So which one is it???

That works both ways. Where are the doomsayers who said the game was dying and that the falling Steam figures proved it because they represented the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that !

The reality is that the Steam figures are just that, representative of how well the game is doing on Steam. When the Steam figures fell they did so pretty much within normal seasonal/cyclical parameters, but the rise in the current figures exceeds any previous variations by a country mile.

I wouldn't claim they are representative of the game as a whole, consistent with my view when the Steam figures were low, but they are very positive nonetheless. Equally, they reflect the reality so far as performance is concerned, because those figures wouldn't be sustained if the problems some are experiencing were more widely experienced.

You are right, it is literally representative of how well the game is doing on steam.
It shouldn't be dismissed as representative as the game performance overall though.
Regardless of what point it is used to utilised to emphasise.

Statistics are formed using a portion of an overall population after all and they can never be perfect. If anything taking the statistics from one platform removes the biased of how the statistic was formed. i.e. if everyone on the forums were asked what they thought of ESO, the overall statistic would be bad. Vice versa there are plenty of places you could survey and get a very positive answer.

Caelc · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

ESO is up to 17,572 players in the last month!!!

This is nearly as many for the launch of Elsweyr... Imagine how busy it will be when Greymoor drops 😂

https://steamcharts.com/app/306130

it happens during events then drops

Varana · April 2020

Ri_Khan wrote: »

So where's all the usual sycophants insisting the steam numbers are completely irrelevant and in no way represent the overall population of the game across all platforms? Huh, funny that.

Oh right...different narrative this time. So which one is it???

Contrary to other posts, this one didn't try to spin the Steam charts into a narrative about the whole game. They said "it's doing well on Steam".

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Together with Corona, we also had a free weekend. So many people who had too much time on their hands could check out the game for free.

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Caelc wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

ESO is up to 17,572 players in the last month!!!

This is nearly as many for the launch of Elsweyr... Imagine how busy it will be when Greymoor drops 😂

https://steamcharts.com/app/306130

it happens during events then drops

Yes, but more so than it ever has done before is my point

Czekoludek · April 2020

We have cumulation of free ESO event, coronavirus because of which ppl stays at homes (basically all bigger games reach their records during this time or they are close to they all time peak). I'm more interesting to see if bad game performance will draw away new ppl or not.
Steam numbers now might looks promising but like i said, it is a specific situation. Hard to believe for me that game is in healthy state, especially when you see twitch statistics for biggest streams (announcements) of ESO:

Morrowind:
278,228 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 250,405

Summerset:
237,047 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 161,982

Elsweyr:
498,343 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 1,204,328 (!!!)

Greymoor:
130,898 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 259,614

All of this data are available for everyone. Mind that Morrowind and Summerset streams were less then one hour long, while Elsweyr and Greymoor were more then 2 hours long each (so they should generate more unique viewers).
As you can see Year of the Dragon was a big oopsie for ZOS (stupid combat changes provided by new, not so great team, performance and overall overmonetization). During Elsweyr we also got a lot of fresh blood but game failed at keeping most of them.
This year will be huge test for ZOS and in my opinion will shape the future of this game (they will go into full milking cow mode or they will invest more money for better profit). Unfortunately right now many ppl thinks that they are choosing first path (including me) and see the future of ESO in not so bright light

Sergykid · April 2020

it's also because of the event. Lots of people only log in to hoard stuff as loot lammas they are then stop playing again until the next event. Usually my ping is less than 100 but during events always 100+

The_Old_Goat · April 2020

Ignoring the steam charts for a minute, I've noticed a lot more applicants to the guild that I'm an officer in as well as the dungeon finder glitching out more often from the burden of all the extra players. Love having them here but I feel it's really stressing the game out.

Sergykid · April 2020

The_Old_Goat wrote: »

Ignoring the steam charts for a minute, I've noticed a lot more applicants to the guild that I'm an officer in as well as the dungeon finder glitching out more often from the burden of all the extra players. Love having them here but I feel it's really stressing the game out.

yep, also mobs in dungeons once again start moving back and forth while standing in place. Really shows the game's limits, lol. Maybe some people want the game to be more popular (meaning more played, more active group content run) but it kinda reaches its limit at this point.

Jakx · April 2020

Steam numbers are a horrible metric since the majority of PC owners avoid it due to all the issues with ESO and steam (are there still problems?).

Vaoh · April 2020

Czekoludek wrote: »

We have cumulation of free ESO event, coronavirus because of which ppl stays at homes (basically all bigger games reach their records during this time or they are close to they all time peak). I'm more interesting to see if bad game performance will draw away new ppl or not.
Steam numbers now might looks promising but like i said, it is a specific situation. Hard to believe for me that game is in healthy state, especially when you see twitch statistics for biggest streams (announcements) of ESO:

Morrowind:
278,228 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 250,405

Summerset:
237,047 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 161,982

Elsweyr:
498,343 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 1,204,328 (!!!)

Greymoor:
130,898 viewers/hour
Total unique viewers: 259,614

All of this data are available for everyone. Mind that Morrowind and Summerset streams were less then one hour long, while Elsweyr and Greymoor were more then 2 hours long each (so they should generate more unique viewers).
As you can see Year of the Dragon was a big oopsie for ZOS (stupid combat changes provided by new, not so great team, performance and overall overmonetization). During Elsweyr we also got a lot of fresh blood but game failed at keeping most of them.
This year will be huge test for ZOS and in my opinion will shape the future of this game (they will go into full milking cow mode or they will invest more money for better profit). Unfortunately right now many ppl thinks that they are choosing first path (including me) and see the future of ESO in not so bright light

^^^^^
Also the state of the game (balance, performance, fluidity of gameplay) is at an all-time low alongside very little communication from ZOS.

Ofc we all hope things will improve. The question is, how long does it take until it is naive to still believe this game will become at least as stable as pre-Morrowind?

idk · April 2020

If OP looks at April 2019, it shows over 16k for that month. There is a boost during that time. Considering Steam charts show an increase for every month year over year except for three months last year it is not surprising to see 17k.

AgaTheGreat · April 2020

It's FREE week or whatever of ESO, so it's normal that more people are trying out the game.

TelvanniWizard · April 2020

Iskiab wrote: »

Saelent wrote: »

Did the last ones stay? Will these stay?

Who cares, I just hope they buy something so ZoS has the cash to fix the servers.

ZoS alreasy has more than enough millions to fix the servers. And they don't.

Lysette · April 2020

if you think that pvp performance has any impact on the health of the game, then you are on the wrong path. i guess that just 1 out 20 new players has as his goal to mainly do pvp, and eventually 1 out of 5 is considering to try it. But the vast majority is not effected by these performance issues and might not even recognize it at all, if they don't read the forum.

From what I can see in normal overland zones the game is more than just healthy, it thrives despite it's problems with pvp and group content. The amount of players who are soloing or just having some fun with a couple of friends is far greater than those being effected by these performance issues IMO. For most the game is not broken at all - but runs pretty well.

andreasv · April 2020

And here's Black Desert Online's steam chart. Up by 11k YoY with an average 24k in March. Majority won't stay in neither of the two.

https://steamcharts.com/app/582660