Vampires not the only ones seeing love, Werewolves Buffs Incoming they are updating them as well!

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Well it seems like Zenimax was telling the Truth about all werewolf abilties being criminal.
However it seems they are not going to be left in the dust after all!
Werewolves Rejoice!

There was this one video where a person I think he runs the Fextralife website anyways he didn't cover up the numbers and Zenimax asked streamers not to show those off yet as they have not been adjusted. However on that video he showed some of the werewolf abilties to show how they are criminal. He might not have saw how they buffed them. I noticed it and just had to post it because people are upset that werewolf is in a bad place and with Greymoor if these changes go live they won't be.

I saw the abilties on the video and they are indeed getting a buff.
Will tell you how so with the ones I saw on it and you can go look it up yourself. He Inadvertently shows the buffs at 7:40 Into the Video.
Edit
Screen shots taken by Tommy the Gun and posted on the werewolf thread posted them here so you can see it for yourselves without the video.

BaiterOfZergs · March 2020

After seeing the trailer I expected to see werewolf updates

Vevvev · March 2020

After fighting that one werewolf in the prologue I'm not surprised there are werewolf changes happening. At least the wolfies will be getting some kind of buffs.

ccfeeling · March 2020

I believe ZOS just buff the product they are selling at that moment .

See what WW happened after Wolfhunter ?

Ackwalan · March 2020

There is also a werewolf in the prologue quest, so it seems they play a role in the new chapter.

BaiterOfZergs · March 2020

I wouldn’t be surprised if they touch on the werewolf vs vampire origin or even fighters guild werewolf origin.

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Vampire Vs Werewolf in pvp can see it now. Vampires and Werewolves fighting it out.

Vevvev · March 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Vampire Vs Werewolf in pvp can see it now. Vampires and Werewolves fighting it out.

I don't think it'll be a very even fight.

Werewolves lose thanks to the fact their stun is a fear while the vampire will be getting a stun + snare.((Or any other CC they have on hand)) This partially takes away the advantage werewolves get with their passive movement speed increase, and the fear effect causes the targets to run away. This means the werewolf has to chase them down to keep up the pressure.

Then there is the fact vampire can be assisted with weapon + class skills and the fact that vampires also have access to far more powerful self heals. Also if the vampire knows they are going up against a werewolf, and are a stam build, they can equip fighter's guild abilities like Dawnbreaker to great effect as well as use poison damage. Werewolves unless they ignore their ultimate do not have access to flame damage.

Of course this is just my opinion and the fight could end up very differently thanks to player skill.

Lapin_Logic · March 2020

I hope they change the plastic plasticine werewolf to a fluffy "Mini Balorg" model seeing as Vampires are getting covered in Gore if they are well fed.

Nord_Raseri · March 2020

Too little too late

santhoranb16_ESO · March 2020

Its only logical and good to see they are "both" being adressed. Some love for those poor wolfies, currently they are really in a bad state.

However i'm curious now what the new "downside" will be for those Buffs on Werewolves.(Like cost increase for all abilities on Vampire, except their vamp abilities itself).

StormeReigns · March 2020

Now... will WW have some of their passive active outside of WW form - I feel that it should be only fair. Not a carbon copy, but some sort of extra incentive to counter balance both.

Cause, I really want to love my WW as much as I love my Vamp.

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

I hope they change the plastic plasticine werewolf to a fluffy "Mini Balorg" model seeing as Vampires are getting covered in Gore if they are well fed.

Also this. Seemingly, Sister Barla or however she says it, did look slight more unique and more feral compared to what we as players got. bit of up turned hair, more defined body and face (probably due to her being a larger model.)

Thevampirenight · March 2020

StormeReigns wrote: »

Now... will WW have some of their passive active outside of WW form - I feel that it should be only fair. Not a carbon copy, but some sort of extra incentive to counter balance both.

Cause, I really want to love my WW as much as I love my Vamp.

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

I hope they change the plastic plasticine werewolf to a fluffy "Mini Balorg" model seeing as Vampires are getting covered in Gore if they are well fed.

Also this. Seemingly, Sister Barla or however she says it, did look slight more unique and more feral compared to what we as players got. bit of up turned hair, more defined body and face (probably due to her being a larger model.)

Well hopefully those changes seen in Sister Barla will make it to the werewolf. Except the size as it should remain the size of the base game werewolf.

Faulgor · March 2020

Why not just link the video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUIKGkENMK0

Pounce
Pounce on an enemy with primal fury, dealing x Physical Damage.
Activating the ability again within the next 5 seconds causes you to cast Carnage.
Carnage causes the enemy to bleed for y damage over 10 seconds and deals up to 450% more damage to enemies under 100% Health.

Hircine's Bounty
Invoke the Huntsman's Blessing, healing you for x Health. This ability scales off your Max Health. If you are at full health you instead restore y Stamina.
While slotted you gain Major Brutality, increasing your Weapon Damage by 20%.

Roar
Roar with bloodlust to terrify up to 6 nearby enemies, fearing them for 4 seconds and setting them Off Balance for 7 seconds.
While slotted you gain Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191.

Piercing Howl
Crush enemy with a deafening howl, dealing x Physical damage.
Enemies who are facing you take 10% more damage from this attack.

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Faulgor wrote: »

Why not just link the video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUIKGkENMK0

Pounce
Pounce on an enemy with primal fury, dealing x Physical Damage.
Activating the ability again within the next 5 seconds causes you to cast Carnage.
Carnage causes the enemy to bleed for y damage over 10 seconds and deals up to 450% more damage to enemies under 100% Health.

Hircine's Bounty
Invoke the Huntsman's Blessing, healing you for x Health. This ability scales off your Max Health. If you are at full health you instead restore y Stamina.
While slotted you gain Major Brutality, increasing your Weapon Damage by 20%.

Roar
Roar with bloodlust to terrify up to 6 nearby enemies, fearing them for 4 seconds and setting them Off Balance for 7 seconds.
While slotted you gain Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191.

Piercing Howl
Crush enemy with a deafening howl, dealing x Physical damage.
Enemies who are facing you take 10% more damage from this attack.

I thought about it but the guy did show off the actual numbers for the vampire abilties and well everyone else has been hiding it. Given that information might be under an Nda. Though I felt it was important that Werewolf players that would likely be quitting the game or even are very angry and won't buy the chapter because of it sees it because well that might even help Zenimax get more money.
The Werewolf changes should have been showcased with the updated Vampires just because of the state Werewolf is in right now and those types of players do need hope and that is why I shared the Werewolf information that likely got unnoticed by many of the testers. From the Video.
Since Zenimax wanted to keep the vampire numbers under wraps. I respected that and didn't post the video showcasing it. Though I did reveal the changes to Werewolves.

MurderMostFoul · March 2020

ZOS, please don't make everyone need to be a werewolf or vampire to be competitive in PvP.

Thevampirenight · March 2020

By the one remark on the werewolf thread this being confirmed might actually be getting that person to rethink buying Greymoor so this Information should have been released,
@ZOS_GinaBruno I think it would be wise to just give us this information and confirm that Werewolves are getting updated and have it show cased like the Vampire because this was never communicated and actually would have helped with Sales had it been known. Would have even kept players from uninstalling the game over the state of Werewolf. Players actually do care about this Skill Line and its state has disgusted many of those potential Greymoor Buyers.

Nemesis7884 · March 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

StormeReigns wrote: »

Now... will WW have some of their passive active outside of WW form - I feel that it should be only fair. Not a carbon copy, but some sort of extra incentive to counter balance both.

Cause, I really want to love my WW as much as I love my Vamp.

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

I hope they change the plastic plasticine werewolf to a fluffy "Mini Balorg" model seeing as Vampires are getting covered in Gore if they are well fed.

Also this. Seemingly, Sister Barla or however she says it, did look slight more unique and more feral compared to what we as players got. bit of up turned hair, more defined body and face (probably due to her being a larger model.)

Well hopefully those changes seen in Sister Barla will make it to the werewolf. Except the size as it should remain the size of the base game werewolf.

I actually like the bulky werewolf size and transformation much more...

Nemesis7884 · March 2020

do you know if anything changes with regards to when, how fast, how long you can transform?

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

do you know if anything changes with regards to when, how fast, how long you can transform?

I believe its the same, though the number on the ultimate is harder to make out.
It looks like they didn't touch the base form itself just the abilties. But they might have done adjustments to the werewolf morphs.
We won't know until its show cased or put on the Pts. What the morphs will look like but it looks like they made quality of life improvements to make werewolves more viable.

ScardyFox · March 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS, please don't make everyone need to be a werewolf or vampire to be competitive in PvP.

Please, no one ever needs to do that and never has. Its simply a different play style... a different flavor if you will.

mague · March 2020

Vevvev wrote: »

Werewolves lose thanks to the fact their stun is a fear while the vampire will be getting a stun + snare.((Or any other CC they have on hand)) This partially takes away the advantage werewolves get with their passive movement speed increase, and the fear effect causes the targets to run away. This means the werewolf has to chase them down to keep up the pressure.

AFAIK there is no more "run away" fear in game. Maybe a few boss es still have it. Fear makes you cower, which is basically a stun+snare.

Personally i hope they give the magicka users something.

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Edited the thread to include the screen shots taken from the video by @Tommy_The_Gun

technohic · March 2020

So wait. First we get sets called "New Moon" and now we going full Twilight? Is that what you're telling me?

Thevampirenight · March 2020

technohic wrote: »

So wait. First we get sets called "New Moon" and now we going full Twilight? Is that what you're telling me?

Underworld
Vampire vs Lycan.
I mean vampire lords are based off Underworld its not twilight. Queen Ayreen is voiced by the actress that played the Vampire Selene and King Emeric is voiced by the guy that played Davy Jones in PotC and Victor In the First Underworld Movie.

Tommy_The_Gun · March 2020

Original post is here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416461/class-rep-werewolf-feedback-thread#latest

Things I was able to screenshot this from the video (sorry for the quality and small images) :

Edit:
All of those are base morphs, so there will be 1 additional effect. Also we don't know Infectious Claws and WW passives.
To whoever posted this video... THANK YOU. You have ignited a beacon of hope. A small candle, but it is getting brighter...

I still can not believe that this could be true (It is Pre - PTS version).
Those are only base morphs, so those skills will have one additional effect. Also we don't know Infectious Claws and WW passives. I wonder what they will do with Pack Leader...

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Original post is here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416461/class-rep-werewolf-feedback-thread#latest
Things I was able to screenshot this from the video (sorry for the quality and small images) :

Edit:
All of those are base morphs, so there will be 1 additional effect. Also we don't know Infectious Claws and WW passives.
To whoever posted this video... THANK YOU. You have ignited a beacon of hope. A small candle, but it is getting brighter...
I still can not believe that this could be true (It is Pre - PTS version).
Those are only base morphs, so those skills will have one additional effect. Also we don't know Infectious Claws and WW passives. I wonder what they will do with Pack Leader...

Yeah I saw that I gave you credit for taking the Screen Shots. So I decided to put them in this thread so more players can actually see it.

MaxJrFTW · March 2020

The only way i will even consider playing werewolf is if they update that hideous model to the new one. Makes no sense for them not to.

Thevampirenight · March 2020

Found an appropriate gif for this. They are rising! Soon they will overcome.Soon they will enter the battlefield against the Vampires, Who will win? Team Selene or Team Lucian. Can see this being a rally cry for Werewolves to rise up or join side by side with the Vampires.

MurderMostFoul · March 2020

ScardyFox wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

ZOS, please don't make everyone need to be a werewolf or vampire to be competitive in PvP.

Please, no one ever needs to do that and never has. Its simply a different play style... a different flavor if you will.

I'm not saying there is currently a need to run WW or Vamp to be competitive, nor am I saying there ever has been. I am asking ZOS to not buff WW and Vamp to were the need to run one or the other arises in the future.

Kadoin · March 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Vampire Vs Werewolf in pvp can see it now. Vampires and Werewolves fighting it out.

PvP will be dead next patch anyway. Whether its through performance or balance...