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New vampire lord/scion form looks kinda.....trash?
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✭✭✭✭There is a slight chance this is an April Fools joke, that is just a giant Xivkyn Dreadguard with wings, if not then I honestly would of preffered the Bat Form ultimate over this, it would of looked more high quality.Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on March 30, 2020 5:52PM11 -
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✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »There is a slight chance this is an April Fools joke, that is just a giant Xivkyn Dreadguard with wings, if not then I honestly would of preffered the Bat Form ultimate over this, it would of looked more high quality.
Can agree completely.
I just don't understand why they have big shadow-y wings??? Why not just give us the thin wings like we already know....2 -
ketsparrowhawk✭✭✭✭✭ketsparrowhawk wrote: »Why does the transformation look like you just get a shadow over you?
Not sure I understand this question. The look of your character completely changes. You get wings, horns.. way taller, completely different body type. Completely different facial features. Maybe we're talking about different things.
No, you don't.
watch the video again.
You just get the shadow of the creature over your base armor and the majority of it is literally just a shadow. Including the wings.
Lol I looked a hundred times, dude. You are wrong.4 -
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✭✭✭✭ketsparrowhawk wrote: »ketsparrowhawk wrote: »Why does the transformation look like you just get a shadow over you?
Not sure I understand this question. The look of your character completely changes. You get wings, horns.. way taller, completely different body type. Completely different facial features. Maybe we're talking about different things.
No, you don't.
watch the video again.
You just get the shadow of the creature over your base armor and the majority of it is literally just a shadow. Including the wings.
Lol I looked a hundred times, dude. You are wrong.
Actually it is just a large Xivkyn Dreadguard with Wings, A shadow would of actually been preferable.6 -
Fata1moose✭✭✭✭✭Yeah it looks bad, I don't know how they went from this:
(Which looks great)
To whatever they have now, which has too many effects.
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Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »ketsparrowhawk wrote: »ketsparrowhawk wrote: »Why does the transformation look like you just get a shadow over you?
Not sure I understand this question. The look of your character completely changes. You get wings, horns.. way taller, completely different body type. Completely different facial features. Maybe we're talking about different things.
No, you don't.
watch the video again.
You just get the shadow of the creature over your base armor and the majority of it is literally just a shadow. Including the wings.
Lol I looked a hundred times, dude. You are wrong.
Actually it is just a large Xivkyn Dreadguard with Wings, A shadow would of actually been preferable.
Wait is it really just a large dreadguard with wings?3 -
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And yet the people who are posting that they like the appearance of the Ult, you're acting like they're in the wrong for liking it with the questions you're asking them. You're also wrong about it not changing anything, which has been pointed out a few times. It's an entire transformation, it's not 'just getting a shadow over you'.Once more, acting all smug and arrogant for no reason. I didn't beat anyone up for having personal expectations, I just told them what I *thought* we knew and what made the most sense. People are free to think what they want, which I usually made clear despite of if I thought they were wrong or not. If you're talking about me telling people it being a necro-ult reskin would be stupid and bad, then that's different, because it is quite bad. A re-skin of an already existing ultimate is objectively bad design.
I personally think it looks pretty neat, except the wings look more like amorphous blobs than they do wings. They need to fix those to look more like wings and it'll be set.
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✭AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »It's awesome!
How do you find a re-skin of Necro ult awesome, exactly?
It changes nothing about your character, gives no new abilities, is awkwardly using weapon/class skills.
Genuinely curious, what do you like about it that can't already be given to you with the Necro ult?
I like how awesome it is.“Whatever.”
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Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Canned_Apples wrote: »Bone Goliath Reskin...
Yeah..... Especially if they keep the literal same blue energy and the awkward shadow wings. It's obvious they just plastered those on there.5 -
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✭✭✭I like it. Hey, it is something different.
Not really, based on what I've seen. As others have said, it's basically just the necro ult with a different skin, and that skin is quite underwhelming currently."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."5 -
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✭✭✭✭What is worse is the animation into it uses the same blue necromancy magic visuals as the Bone Goliath as well.5 -
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Exactly. Which is super ironic.
They claim it's something new and different when it's literally a necro ult re-skin with some cardboard-cut out wings thrown onto it.
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✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »What is worse is the animation into it uses the same blue necromancy magic visuals as the Bone Goliath as well.
I think it even radiates blue magic in similar spots.1 -
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✭✭✭✭If I turn my Necromancer into a Vampire I wont waste time with that ultimate, looks to be inferior to the Bone Goliath anyway.
If what another poster said was true about the 33% stat increase then the transformation itself is incredibly weak, it is a bigger insult to Vampires since Twilight, I will take 30,000 extra health and a cool looking skeleton form over that any day.6 -
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✭✭✭Yeah, it looks REALLY bad. The skill line seems fine, but that Blood Scion looks...
The wings shouldn't be transparent. Get them a bit closer to the body and more skeletal, but make them solid. The armor is way too bulky. Vampire Lords don't wear heavy armor and the Scion should also tone all the plating down, especially on the shoulders.
There's still time, and surely the talented artists at ZOS can develop a new optical concept?5 -
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✭✭✭✭Yeah, it looks REALLY bad. The skill line seems fine, but that Blood Scion looks...
The wings shouldn't be transparent. Get them a bit closer to the body and more skeletal, but make them solid. The armor is way too bulky. Vampire Lords don't wear heavy armor and the Scion should also tone all the plating down, especially on the shoulders.
There's still time, and surely the talented artists at ZOS can develop a new optical concept?
Well your not really a Vampire Lord, your as much a Vampire Lord as someone who is using Dragon Aspect is a Dragon.1 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah, it looks REALLY bad. The skill line seems fine, but that Blood Scion looks...
The wings shouldn't be transparent. Get them a bit closer to the body and more skeletal, but make them solid. The armor is way too bulky. Vampire Lords don't wear heavy armor and the Scion should also tone all the plating down, especially on the shoulders.
There's still time, and surely the talented artists at ZOS can develop a new optical concept?
If you check out other posts on this thread, you can see how a vampire lord form should look and already looks inside ESO. I don't understand why they didn't just use that model since if you look closely the model, aside from wings, looks almost exact.
Which makes me believe these big bulky wings were placeholders? I hope so....2 -
Irfind✭✭✭✭✭I will not use vamp ult, what bothers me more is that skins no longer hide vamperism. stage 1 looks line you were killed by a WW with all this blood.
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✭✭✭✭✭It looks like they took the top half of the vampire lord, stuck Xivkyn horns on it, put on some wings, and called it a day. There isn't even a female version of it as shown by both Alcast and DawnWhisper using female characters to show off the ultimate. It really does feel like a work in progress and I hope it gets polished up before it leaves the PTS and onto the live servers.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK5 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It looks like they took the top half of the vampire lord, stuck Xivkyn horns on it, put on some wings, and called it a day. There isn't even a female version of it as shown by both Alcast and DawnWhisper using female characters to show off the ultimate. It really does feel like a work in progress and I hope it gets polished up before it leaves the PTS and onto the live servers.
You're very true.
I genuinely do not understand how people think this looks nice. It doesn't. The wings look like trash and ruin the entire thing, imo. The entire form is WAY too dark to make out literally any of the body details. I reall really hope this is a placeholder.
It has to be, right?6 -
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You're very true.
I genuinely do not understand how people think this looks nice. It doesn't. The wings look like trash and ruin the entire thing, imo. The entire form is WAY too dark to make out literally any of the body details. I reall really hope this is a placeholder.
It has to be, right?
If the wings were real vampiric wings then that'll be another story instead of these dark transparent shadows. I mean heck you could use the dragonknight's wings and recolor them so they work with the dark look!
Anyways, I'm glad they didn't just make the player look like a Volkihar Vampire Lord but they could have at least put in more effort.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
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✭✭✭It’s a work in progress. Don’t be too critical of it until it’s on PTS tbh.
As for the new sets.....
Considering Greymoor is scheduled for release very soon it's a bit late for that if they need to do major work on it. PTS this close to release is for final bugfixes and polishing, not major concept rework.
Anyway the first impression I got was that old Gargoyles cartoon.
Edited by Dusk_Coven on March 30, 2020 10:22PM3 -
The form is a blatant edit of the daedra type Xivilai. The skull looks way too wide and bulky, makes it look offbalanced and dumb. They're selling us literal vampire lord statues that look excellent. Why can't they put that money into the game instead???
Compare the two.Edited by UlfgarHrothgarson on March 30, 2020 10:26PM3 -
Saelent✭✭✭✭✭How long ago were these videos recorded? I mean when did these people get to play on the internal servers?
Might give some hope for things having been changed for release.0 -
ThePlayer✭✭✭✭Right now is a pvp skill line that can be used only from 100% pvp char, i mean if they keep the regular cost of abiliy works Always, even when you not use ultimate.0 -
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✭✭✭It looks like they took the top half of the vampire lord, stuck Xivkyn horns on it, put on some wings, and called it a day. There isn't even a female version of it as shown by both Alcast and DawnWhisper using female characters to show off the ultimate.
This is a FAIL. I mean, c'mon ZOS. You've just ignored like half your client base??Edited by Dusk_Coven on March 30, 2020 10:40PM12 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »It’s a work in progress. Don’t be too critical of it until it’s on PTS tbh.
As for the new sets.....
Considering Greymoor is scheduled for release very soon it's a bit late for that if they need to do major work on it. PTS this close to release is for final bugfixes and polishing, not major concept rework.
Anyway the first impression I got was that old Gargoyles cartoon.
The preview build these content creators got could be months old, though.
For all we know it looks nothing like this now.
If you look at the vid, even the ability icons seem kinda wack and very obviously look like placeholders.
Also who knows when the content creators even recorded these videos, again, could be a couple months old or so.0
