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Can you please tell us how you plan on addressing the guild bank "situation'
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✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to abusing exploitable bugs, and those who were found doing so have has their game account permanently banned.
We want to thank everyone who reported this issue to us. In the future, should you identify what you think could be an exploitable bug, please send it to us in-game via /help or in our help center: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/ask
What you actually plan on doing about the flooded market?
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Monsoon✭✭✭Start over from scratch on a new Megaserver, keping the current bugged one up but offering a day one start new one where people will slowly transfer...its the only way to be sure
Edited by Monsoon on April 18, 2014 8:02PM1 -
grizzbi✭✭✭THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING.... Oh wait, 80% of the player base still has no clue, because this is nothing game breaking. Stop being dram queens people.
What will these people do when they will discover they have to pay an obscene amount of money to buy gear when everybody and his whole family is running with it?
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vahadar✭Seems that the ZOS official who replied on first page deleted the post,and the link he provided is also deleted.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/81473/notice-guild-banks-disabled
Would be nice to have an official answer about that. From EULA its clearly stated that exploited game is an EULA breach, will they tell the community that the said peopl ehave been dealt with accordingly, or just delete previously posted information like it was done here? I understand the information in the post wasnt valid anymore, but an edit or update would have beenappreciated.Edited by vahadar on April 18, 2014 8:06PM2 -
Rage_Frost✭✭✭Kyle_Roberts wrote: »A rollback isn't an option, would do more damage than good, the amount of players that would quit...
They do have ways to track players how much gold a player has and what players have in their banks etc...
Its very simple to be honest they just need to run a script to check for an amount of gold lets say anything over 250k would flag that account.
Same with Mats etc etc
Now once that account gets flag their are records kept in game already.
Look at your Guild History Tab.
Shows who deposited what who takes out what.
Same With the Guild Store shows who Sells what to who for what amount...
It will take some Man Hours at that point but it should not be hard once they get the accounts flagged.
All I can say Is I am happy I turned off Withdraw from our Guild Bank some time ago...
Many MMO's have had a Dupe problem in the past the one I recall was SWG back in the day when it was said that kind of the same thing with the maintenance on guild House where folks could do the same thing as here...
They did come out and say they banned folks. And also suspended some others that turned them self's in..
I hate to say the word WOW but they also had a problem and again they came out and said folks were banned from that also a long time ago.
I will say that these folks once they get it figured out and the job done will announce that accounts were banned from this Dupe also.
It always a good way to save some Face on these matters and to let the players know they are working to stop this.
They already Announced that they have Banned Thousands of account already here a week or two ago...1 -
epoling✭✭✭✭You folks do realize that whatever they mad is only the best until Craglorn comes out, right? Then it will be overshadowed by gear from that zone.0 -
Noth✭✭✭✭Arsenic_Touch wrote: »ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to abusing exploitable bugs, and those who were found doing so have has their game account permanently banned.
We want to thank everyone who reported this issue to us. In the future, should you identify what you think could be an exploitable bug, please send it to us in-game via /help or in our help center: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/ask
What you actually plan on doing about the flooded market?
Believe it or not, with the exploit gone and many of the item gone from the bannings, the economy with settle down again as you can't sell something for a high price if people no longer have the money for it.
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loops73✭✭the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.0
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Dominulf✭✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »those who were found doing so have had their game account permanently banned.
Suuure, whatever you say.
Look at all that Druegh Wax...
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Believe it or not, with the exploit gone and many of the item gone from the bannings, the economy with settle down again as you can't sell something for a high price if people no longer have the money for it.
Like when they fixed the d3 auction house gold dupe, it's not like billions were smuggled onto other accounts, right? the economy never recovered despite blizzard ensuring everyone that they banned the people that abused it.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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grizzbi✭✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to abusing exploitable bugs, and those who were found doing so have has their game account permanently banned.
We want to thank everyone who reported this issue to us. In the future, should you identify what you think could be an exploitable bug, please send it to us in-game via /help or in our help center: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/ask
You're obvisouly not reading people comments. We all know it has been identified because this is what all the people here are talking about... What we care about is the damage already done.... Sorry but that's just not enough.3 -
Noth✭✭✭✭the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.1 -
otomodachi✭✭✭ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to abusing exploitable bugs, and those who were found doing so have has their game account permanently banned.
We want to thank everyone who reported this issue to us. In the future, should you identify what you think could be an exploitable bug, please send it to us in-game via /help or in our help center: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/ask
lolololololol
Sorry, Jessica, it's not your fault but BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!What do you gain by criticizing a CSR complaint?2 -
loops73✭✭
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
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Noth✭✭✭✭
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
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loops73✭✭
I will move on,as I suspect a lot of other people will due to an unfair advantage some players have.I suspect you want his game to florish,but with the cheater attitude you have,it will be FTP before you know it.
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
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Roll back now!
The game was released 14 days ago. If you can't make up 14 days of gaming, then you aren't a gamer.
Nobody will quit. These are addicts you are talking about. Demolition is their mission.
Put everyone back on the same playing field. It's better than banning everybody. Zen still wants their sub money.0 -
Noth✭✭✭✭
I will move on,as I suspect a lot of other people will due to an unfair advantage some players have.I suspect you want his game to florish,but with the cheater attitude you have,it will be FTP before you know it.
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
So you only see short term and thus doom a game over something that over time gets less and less noticeable to the point that it means nothing?
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loops73✭✭
I will move on,as I suspect a lot of other people will due to an unfair advantage some players have.I suspect you want his game to florish,but with the cheater attitude you have,it will be FTP before you know it.
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
So you only see short term and thus doom a game over something that over time gets less and less noticeable to the point that it means nothing?
it means something right now,and that's what matters..game has only been out a few weeks,if you rollback now, it will mean nothing later and everyone would be back on equal footing.0 -
loops73✭✭michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »Roll back now!
The game was released 14 days ago. If you can't make up 14 days of gaming, then you aren't a gamer.
Nobody will quit. These are addicts you are talking about. Demolition is their mission.
Put everyone back on the same playing field. It's better than banning everybody. Zen still wants their sub money.
I agree,at least someone gets it0 -
grizzbi✭✭✭
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
but all those comments, suddenly, on those usually very quiet forums?!
w..wh..why?
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✭otomodachi wrote: »
lolololololol
Sorry, Jessica, it's not your fault but BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
They acted quickly when it was publicized on twitch, but when it was reported during the beta? hmm.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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"Hope can drown lost in thunderous sound."
"Fear can claim what little faith remains."
"Death will take those who fight alone."
"But united we can break a fate once set in stone."
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Noth✭✭✭✭
I will move on,as I suspect a lot of other people will due to an unfair advantage some players have.I suspect you want his game to florish,but with the cheater attitude you have,it will be FTP before you know it.
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
So you only see short term and thus doom a game over something that over time gets less and less noticeable to the point that it means nothing?
it means something right now,and that's what matters..game has only been out a few weeks,if you rollback now, it will mean nothing later and everyone would be back on equal footing.
Yes punish everyone for something a few did and with something that will work itself out over time. Sounds great. I guarantee that will *** off more people, causing them to quit, than this fixed exploit does now.
Neverwinter did a small rollback (day or two) and that caused a lot of people to quit and that is a free game.
Edited by Noth on April 18, 2014 8:32PM1 -
grizzbi✭✭✭The guy from twitch is under control and his account banned!
hopefully he didn't told anyone about that exploit..
oh wait....0 -
loops73✭✭
I will move on,as I suspect a lot of other people will due to an unfair advantage some players have.I suspect you want his game to florish,but with the cheater attitude you have,it will be FTP before you know it.
that's all well and good,but what about the guy 3 lvls lower than me running around with epic gear in pvp? or the lvl 10 guy who has been buying the mats and has leveled his crafting all the way up? its not fir to the rest of us who have played fair.the only viable option is to roll the game back to launch,seeing as people have been doing this from day 1. chances are most people have either bought/used/traded duped items and the games economy and player balance is way off because of it. I for one will not re sub knowing every other person I meet has leveled their crafting and toon with cheater goods.
Believe it or not the economy can work itself out thanks to the heavy gold sinks and the fact that without the exploit people won't have the money for overpriced items. This will naturally cause the costs to fall back in line.
Get over it and move on. What you just described means very little if anything in the end.
So you only see short term and thus doom a game over something that over time gets less and less noticeable to the point that it means nothing?
it means something right now,and that's what matters..game has only been out a few weeks,if you rollback now, it will mean nothing later and everyone would be back on equal footing.
Yes punish everyone for something a few did and with something that will work itself out over time. Sounds great. I guarantee that will *** off more people, causing them to quit, than this fixed exploit does now.
Neverwinter did a small rollback (day or two) and that caused a lot of people to quit and that is a free game.
its not the fact that a few did it, its the fact that a lot of the game population bought and used items that they would not have had if the playing field was level. just think about that when your in pvp and a lowbie runs up to you with epic gear and owns you. it matters0 -
epoling✭✭✭✭I just don't get all the whining and bellyaching. So some people got stuff you don't. I don't like the idea of duping and cheating, but it happens because people are greedy stupid animals. Demanding ZOS throw everything out because a relative minority did this is just plain silly.
A) Every game has these issues occasionally. I have seen them crop up in well established games after expansions or item updates. Sometimes it takes longer to identify and fix than others. It always works itself out. The economy is not permanently damaged and the duped gear becomes undesirable as soon as the next tier becomes available. Give it time. There is little to no economy in this game right now anyway.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the ability to wear a piece of gear level based? So everybody is going on about people wearing gear suitable to their level. Maybe there are more than should be, but still, what is stopping you from getting the stuff to make your own? Obviously it is only unfair if you can actually wear it but somehow other players are blocking you from getting it. And how do you react to people who have earned the gear legitimately, or do you just assume that because they have it they must have cheated?
C) What the heck is wrong with people that get mad because somebody has something they don't in a computer game? You will either get to the same point eventually or you don't have part of the skill set to do so. (Sorry, not everybody deserves a prize for participation.) It's not a big deal - either practice and get good enough to get the stuff yourself or find an entertainment that matches your particular skill set. It's not the devs job to make sure you are always on par with everybody else.
As a side note, I have three characters - one level 10 and two level 11. Everything they are wearing I made or looted in a level appropriate dungeon. My materials were all either harvested by myself or broken down from items I looted. In now way do I care if somebody is wearing something they got from duping. I hope these bugs are fixed and the issue resolved but in no way does it detract from my game play and after reading through all this I have yet to see how it actually detracts from anybody else's game play.1
