Also, no animation cancelling is not going anywhere from what I can see. In fact, it is getting a lot more well interesting. If you hated animation cancelling before, you will not like the upcoming meta.

Firstly, thank you for an actual post that isn’t filled with dramatics.

I can see this being a interesting change to the game. I can see HAs will need to be looked at obviously.

For newer players, HA weaving is extremely easy. Sustain is easy to come by with food and some abilities.

Maxx7410 wrote: »

Bretons will be usless others clsses will have higher dps and no problem with resources breton resources bonus will be junk and it wont have a dps bonus

They saw everyone change to Breton, and here we are. Nerf how useful Breton is. Ppl mass purchase race change token again. Jk, but seriously tho.

heavy attacks doing more damage than light attacks is at least a lot more intuitive

Matchimus wrote: »

Post this stuff on the PTS forum where it belongs.

Erm no while it is helpful to have on the pts is may also help zeni to see how those who done use pts feel.

honestly i am excited to see the changes.

I just hope animation cancelling will work properly, not like now when you press ability>skip animation>rotate bar and realise that ability didn't activate

Nope

Full DoT builds with heavy attacks as a spammable.

You will still ani cancel, its just rewards you with sustain instead of damage.

Kalante wrote: »

With the insane resources you get from light attacks now who needs regen just spec full damage. Light attacks do less damage but everything else will hit a lot harder specially if they buffed heavy attacks by a ridiculous amount. The burst would be insane in pvp with these changes, that is if only pvp worked the first place.

That's the thing, by reducing the pace (if they push you towards heavy attack for example), they're potentially reducing the number of actions performed per second/minute or wtv you want your benchmark to be. That makes it that with less actions performed, there is less strain and with less strain, better performance.

I think they're realizing that there's no way to fix performance but by slowing down the pace.

They've made it clear in the past that reducing the number of calculations made by the server reduces strain and can improve performance.

It's a huge change but I welcome it. If it'll improve performance and make a change in pace of combat, I might come back to the game.

If anything, I just like change as a whole. I want things to change and this looks good to me.

Y'all know that LA rotations still out parse HA rotations and only cements the bash weaves into the meta further complicating rotations, therefore meaning a higher APM than before?

It's not a great change. Having heavies just do higher damage would be fine but nerfing LA does nothing but hurt LA and every player who uses them.

Out of curiosity is this from a PvP or PvE perspective? and if from PvE what kind of trial dummy dps do you hit?

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fierackas wrote: »

Looks like a pile of shite change designed to gloss over their poor performing servers

A lot of people are ignorant to the fact that there are technical limitations and that the poor performance is not the servers but the engine. ...

So why are they not saying that? If that were the reason (note the subjunctive), they should just say so, instead of whatever they talked about in the PTS notes.

Say what? That when they designed the game, they didn't expect people to become so efficient or didn't anticipate that so many actions per minute is the cause of performance issues?

Say what? Say that they need to dump this game and make a new one to reach the performance expectations of the player base?

There is so much negativity right now, you think they'll feed the fire furthermore?

I wish I had time to get SypherPK's clip of when he tried eso again. It went something like this:
Sypher: "what's the max pop in Cyrodiil nowadays?"
Twitch chat: "150 per faction" (don't remember exactly)
Sypher: " It used to be like 600+ total?" then his face shows he realized something "then again, back then 98% of players were just spamming light attacks and weren't liking 6 abilities per second (intentional exaggeration)".

Add to that the fact that they halved the number of ticks of endless hail, made orbs a single cast per player and so many other changes to try and improve performance.

It's not obvious but it becomes obvious if you are able to remember enough of the changes over the years.

To your "why don't they just say it?" I answer: they're not saying it outright but they do mention the high amount of actions. They're again, hinting at it.

It's a combination of pretty much any server not being able to handle the engine with so many players which makes it an engine limitation.

You really think they wouldn't just simply get a better service provider or better servers if they could? A hardware change would be the simplest of solutions and wouldn't require making dramatic changes to the code so would therefore be safer. They'd lose less money because of customer retention and so, even if the hardware cost would be insane, they would maintain their playerbase. I don't know why you guys don't understand that.