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XP from questing. Is it fine?

  • Cillion3117
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    My 1195ish CP points say it's worth it.
  • Asardes
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    When I started the game I leveled mainly trough questing. It was before one Tamriel, and the zones didn't scale, they had a fixed level. About half way trough the zone I would hit zone level+5 and stopped getting XP from quests and killing mobs. Also items weren't scaled to your level, they weren't part of sets, basically they were just uniquely named trash.

    By the time they got rid of vet levels I had managed to finish Tamriel Hero, Coldharbour and base game dungeons on my first character, and had also leveled 3 more, by doing all zones of their alliance; they hit 50 just as they finished the last zone and received that quest to go into Coldharbour but didn't get any further. I didn't insist on those 3 characters back then because zones weren't fully scaled till One Tamriel - Cadwell's Silver & Gold were CP10-100, Craglorn was CP110-140, but after that I continued, and got other zones cleared as well.

    Post One Tamriel I changed my approach: I level characters fast, without investing in passives, in Maelstrom Arena. By the time they hit 50 they have 2 weapon skills at 50, 1 armor skill at 50 (the others in their 30s as well), all class skills at 50, and Fighter's Guild at about 6.5 since half the arenas are Daedra/Undead. That phase takes usually 5-6 hours in total during double XP event with 50% and sometimes 100% scrolls - got lots of those saved from the daily rewards. Once they're 50 I get them CP160 gear setups with gear I had saved in advance: stamina characters are Hunding (or NMG if they don't have fracture)+VO+Monster w Maelstrom bow back bar, magicka ones are a bit more diverse, but also Maelstrom staff back bar and monster set.

    At this point I save 20-24 points to fill all skill bars with the essential morphed skills, and the rest go into crafting. Then I start doing the zones, even with no passives allocated killing mobs and speed running trough them for skill points is very fast. I don't stop until I've gotten all of those from all base game zones and DLCs up till Summerset, then start doing pledges and PvP. I end up with 375-376 skill points (post Morrowind characters have one extra from the DLC tuturial), that allow me to do multiple builds, and also have crafting hirelings, research acceleration passives (temporary, till they get that done and reallocate them) and few points in reserve for further development, in case a new skill gets added in the game - learned that lesson 2 years ago, when Summerset came out.

    Right now I'm almost done training my 12th character, with 6 more held in reserve for crafting writs and storage - the latter will most likely never get played because they're identical to one of the former, apart from race so they're not worth the effort.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Lysette
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    My personal experience with XP is, it is more efficient to just bash on beetles for half an hour than to spend this on a quest. i see questing just as a leisure time activity, not really to gain XP with it.
  • Runefang
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    Asardes wrote: »
    IMO XP from quests is too much. Many people hit 50, then hit high CP from just doing quests, and then they think they're good, go in vet DLC dungeons and get rekt.

    And having low CP due to lower XP would help?

    Quests do nothing to help you learn to play the game anyway since they're way too easy. You can only learn by doing.
  • Michae
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    Back in the day (2017ish) I finished the MQ on my first character around level 50 as intended. No need to rush things.
    "I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
    Sotha Sil

    @Michae PC/EU
  • Grianasteri
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    While I sympathise with the predicament, I cannot agree that questing xp needs increased.

    For the first year or two of my ESO life, I exclusively played story quests and progressed through each zone in turn with my few characters. I rarely if ever did a dungeon, and I rarely if ever did dolmens or world bosses. I was all about the story arcs and quests.

    Levelling in this fashion, takes AGES. But that was my thing, just as it is the original posters thing, and that is up to the individual.

    Now, I level a character 0 - 50 (810 CP) inside a week of play with a few 2 or 3 hours each evening. I started a new character last Friday I think and its level 29 today (3 days game play). I do this via dailly quests, which are delvs and world bosses, and via the dailly random dungeon reward. Story progression is a thing of the past, apart from the last few DLCs, Ive done it all and have no intention of doing it again just to level a character, those days are past. Later, with a new character, I often progress the 3 main story arcs, but not during my levelling process really.

    So ESO provides YOU with the option, go slow, pogress through the story and related zone quests, or speed up with dailly quest rewards, delvs, world bosses and of course dungeons.
  • InAMinute
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    I started last year (1 year anniversary is next month) and I levelled from 1 to 50 and then onto about CP300 only from quests and killing the monsters you would normally encounter doing those quests. It took me about 3 months to do but it was very enjoyable and it gave me the opportunity to get to know my class.
  • flubber77
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    The quest-grind hase always been slow but at release u did need all 3 factions + coldharbour to reach max lvl, VR10 Then they added 2 vr lvl then r more so at the end u needed like 6million xp for one vr lvl and u got so little xp form all source that it tok forever without grind. I have personal lvl up in total maybe 30 max lvl characters by doing only quest but after a 1.5year break i dont bother and just grind by writs or dungeons and buying skill lines im missing out like psjik or mageguild. just wish they did cost less then 3000 crowns each...
    Still a grudge, only to see false what u want and nothing less.
  • Asardes
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    IMO XP from quests is too much. Many people hit 50, then hit high CP from just doing quests, and then they think they're good, go in vet DLC dungeons and get rekt.

    And having low CP due to lower XP would help?

    Quests do nothing to help you learn to play the game anyway since they're way too easy. You can only learn by doing.

    No, you learn absolutely nothing from quests or getting carried in some grinding location like Skyreach. Mobs die in 2 hits. At least lock higher XP gain behind slightly harder content so people are incentivized to go there and try doing it. I mean I'm totally fine with Maelstrom Arena or random dungeons even on normal giving a ton of XP, since they require a higher degree of coordination and to actually improve your gameplay.

    I'm sick of CP500+ people who don't have a clue because they only ground down dolmens or quests, queueing for vet DLC dungeons and doing 10K DPS or less, expecting the others to carry them. For example yesterday I queued on my Mag Necro as healer for vet Frostvault and we got a CP535 dude who was basically in tank gear - Ebon balls spinning and all, had 34k HP and only spammed wrecking blow. On the first boss the DPS was 60K other DD did 40% of group DPS, I did 42%, and the actual tank 8%. So the fake DD did 10% so 6K DPS, considering that on a proper DD build you can get 10K literally spamming light attack and you're at 20K if you add 2 DoTs. We kicked him and got a proper one to finish the dungeon, which wasn't easy - I had to go full DD on the laser boss to be able to burst him and the adds down and finish, then switched back to healing gear for the other fights.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Eifleber
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    At the moment I am levelling a 4th character and got lvl20 just by discovering stuff and farming skyshards.

    I have no troubles with XP gain. Although the last 10 or so levels before 50 always seem to be a bit slow. Not sure itf it's just a matter of perception or things actually slow down a bit.

    Playing since dec 2019 | PC EU
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