Thogard's video explains exactly why the devs made a mistake

Lintashi · March 2020

The thing is, those calculations only affect players, but not npc's or mobs. Just now, some goblin archers were perfectly fine shooting me right through a giant boulder and cave walls.

Poncho28 · March 2020

for PC (don't know about PS4 or XBX) we can view our network bandwidth amount to the server with Resource Monitor, usually in the KB range .. I know this is in packet/payload amounts, but if the game is going to take on more critical checks, it would seem we (the client) would need more bandwidth .. IF, that's the case, I doubt seriously ZoS is able to scale out due to the $$ cost to make that happen .. at this point, I do not know how the game can any longer support more content (DLCs, expansions, repair to legacy bugs, etc ...)

Lysette · March 2020

The higher the latency the worse this actual is - you might think you are on target and start an ability - but when the action arrives on the server, the server might consider you are not on a target and the ability cannot be fired therefore. With high latency and moving targets it is increasingly more difficult to get an ability fired on a target the higher latency is, because what you see on your screen is not how the current situation is for the server in this moment.

ku5h · March 2020

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

Hello everyone,

Recently we've had to remove a few posts for baiting, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.

Thank you for understanding.

Good to see we can always rely on ZoS feedback on important issues like this.

Curious_Death · March 2020

MentalxHammer wrote: »

We NeEd tO rEwOrK bLoK cAnCeLliNg tO FiX tHE pErFoRmAnCe!!$

-ZOS

Exacly, but this shows - they dont even f**ng play LIVE server... and they don't post progress of their "investrigations". But the worst is - looks like they knowledge is based ONLY on PTS!

I configured my laptop - now i gonna record all these bugs and send ticket about recompensation. I PAID for this and i got crap...

*my hero dont light attack sometimes or heavy attack - when i hold mouse button for heavy attack my hero stats shaking and do nothing ... and this sounds - repeating 50% of his attack sound... WEIRD

*Weapon cannot be swapped... - crap!

*I stucked at breakfree - i cant use skills - i run around ... and i can break free every second - not being stunned - untill stamina ends.

*When i fire bow heavy attack - an arrow fired.. nothing happens and my hero stuck in bow heavy attack animation.

*I got stunned (26k stamina left) i cannot break free untill i got killed (SO MUCH FUN!)

*I got stunned - used breakfree > FEARED > breakfree > stunned (within 4-5 sec!)!? cant break free ofc.

*I got stunned and i didnt breakfree... i used roll-dodge > i glided on the ground still moving (stunned) and get up without problem (that was fun

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*I got strange freeze(1-2 sec) in fight (60 fps) then got stunned (again freeze untill i got killed)

*I was fighting with friend for fun - killed him (didnt wanted to end that way) with one LA - coz his hp was cutted in 1 sec for 20k of delayed DMG!

*I was running from couple of players... i used shield + rapid regen.. then turned around... one light attack killed me ... again a desync? (with shield on!)

*I was tanking > so holding block > then got killed coz - idk why my hero stop holding block??? > i figured out that u needs to watch if ur hero dont stop blocking and release mouse button then hold it again to block... (soo much fun with all this animation effects!)

and many many more that i dont rem right now.

UrbanMonk · March 2020

mav1234 wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

Don't even get me started on what this patch did with dsync. What was a thing mainly with snipe now happens with everything.

Heh. I killed a nightblade yesterday and died to two of his snipes after it. Talk about weird.

lol same. I died to a guy but he was also at low health and my skoria proc while I lay dead and boom he goes.

Coppes · March 2020

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

The combat was fine how it was pre patch. Animation canceling was completely fine, the game felt smooth (outside of cast times on ults...) and complaining about it was a l2p issue to be honest. Now the combat feels clunky and awful and this is because of devs trying to please a few people who are unwilling to put minimal effort into the game. Animation canceling is trivial, you learn it passively in a few days by trying so and you definitely don't need to be a MLG player to do so.

I'm kinda excited about what these people will complain next after they realise that removing animation cancelling didn't make them a better player.

Why does the pro-AC crowd still hold on to the delusion that if you don’t want AC then you don’t know how to do it?

It’s not that they can’t do it. It’s that they can do it, and still dislike AC.

Not liking a mechanic != less skilled than you are

tului78 · March 2020

JumpmanLane wrote: »

teladoy wrote: »

I think this video is more a childish complain because he can not use animation canceling as he used to do.

In my opinion animation canceling is like a cancer. Because with animation canceling you could cast many skills consecutive, send the information from client to server, the server would accept you hit him 3 times in 0,5 and the poor guy on the other side would see that he is insta dead when he saw no *** coming.

So yes, sorry dude, no everything is perfect and sometimes you have to decide for the less painful option.

In my opinion is better to know and see what kills you than abuse of a mechanic, just because you have more skills, and kill someone else in matter of seconds.

Sometimes I really don't understand what kind of common sense the people has. They prefer to complain because they can't abuse anymore of others, instead of be happy that now is more close to be better and fair for everyone.

You STILL gonna get dropped by people who animation cancel. They weren't moving "faster " than you.They were always ON the GCD. Those who never animation canceled or only did it by accident were often times firing off skills AFTER the GCD. With the delays caused by the switch to server for those checks your skills will be delayed longer than someone still going through the motions of animation cancelling and you're STILL gonna get dropped. PARTICULARLY in low lag situations. Because you're generally trying to fire skills past the limitations of the global cool down, I unno because you liked watching pretty animations in the past or something lol.

If they drop the ceiling, the unskilled will suffer most.

How the hll do you animation cancel in Cyrodiil? It's so laggy and unresponsive that I get skills failing to fire, I've taken to pausing with a button pressed for like 0.1s to make sure I can say "yea, I did press it, it's not me tapping too lightly".

I can't imagine it being smooth enough to time GCDs

5cript · March 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXX0G6N424k

There was a follow up.

ZOS_Volpe · March 2020

Greetings,

To consolidate all feedback into one place, we are going to close this thread down, so that the discussion may continue here.

Thank you for your understanding.