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CP alliance locked still most popular
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wow, on noCP locks only been gone a few hours and already we got people boosting and trying to flip for Emp.
AD Emp switch to reds immediately to flip mate to get mate Emp.
I mean...common.....
People jokes about Spaies and all that rubbish on here but the BS play happens the second lock is dropped.
Totally and utterly predictable. Started happening instantly on PC EU too. Zerg surfing the night away, its awful.
As if nightcapping and zerysurfing wasn't a thing with locks on nocp pceu..........get real...
The main reason it's not locked as often as pre patch (and yes, the nocp one is locked primetime) is due to the fact that performance is utterly garbage and people disconnected constantly. I know several people who are regular pvp players who haven't touched nocp this patch due to performance issues.Edited by Qbiken on March 11, 2020 6:34AM4 -
Daviiid_ESO✭✭✭It's great as it is now, the majority clearly want unlocked campaigns. Zos are gradually removing locks again, realizing it was a bad mistake to add back!4 -
ellahellabella✭✭✭✭✭You've got your locked campaign. Go play it.
Unlocking no cp was a good move.Try to read everything I write with an Australian accent
PC NA
ZOMBIE DEATH MACHINE
Vanguard
Outcasts
Full faction locks are only further dividing an already dwindling pvp community
Toons:
Ebonheart Pact
Sophis (M. Templar), Lilivah Rallenar (M. Sorcerer), Diakoptês (M. Dragonknight), Pins and Needles (M. Nightblade), Claws-your-Curtains (S. Sorcerer), Raan-Mir-Tah (M Warden), Hezik (S Warden)
Aldmeri Dominion
Sophis-ticated (M. Templar), Tis not easy being Green (S. Dragonknight)
Daggerfall Covernant
Sirius Delatora (M. Nightblade), Ellaberry (S. Templar), Ellabear (pve tank) Claìr De Lune (M. Sorc)4 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only way it can be determined wheter more people preffer CP locked or CP unlocked PvP or majority of people just don't care would be if in this update CP unlocked campaign would be 1st on the list and CP locked 3rd. However it didn't happen so still there is propability CP locked campaign is most populated simply because it's 1st on campaigns list and that spot was always popular with or without locks.Edited by Juhasow on March 11, 2020 3:48PM4 -
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✭✭✭I never understood the "first campaign on the list" argument. PvP can still be fun if you go to the correct campaign ( Non lock is that is your thing ).
Currently I can't play in Gray Host. I like faction locks and I'm trying to get a character to level 50 AW. However, the performance is so terrible at the moment. I really can't see how anyone even plays in it, but that is their choice.
I moved to a very low populated campaign. The most people I seen in one location is around 5 to 7 and we have been having exceptionally good time. We fail a lot but every now and then we get lucky and take a keep. One alliance has 2 times the pop when I play but it is not that bad.
So when people argue that the reason why CP Locked is always populated because it is listed first on the list just blows my mind. If you play in your type of campaign maybe people will join you. Even with low population ( as long as population is fairly even ) you can have a great time.
I'm curious how is performance in the new poplocked campaign on console? PC's CP locked campaign performance is terrible.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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snoozy✭✭✭✭✭
✭"it's the order they are listed in, PvPers are troglodytes that can't read "
get me my internet points now
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Raammzzaa✭✭✭✭✭Yup, got on last night for the first time post update. Xbox NA had Gray Host pop locked, and the 30 day CP unlocked had one bar of DC. The other 2 campaigns had no bars at all.
Our guild had planned to go to Gray Host whether it was at the top of the list or any other spot since most members want to play in a faction locked campaign. Last night most members didn’t want to play though... We ran as a 10 man for about 45 minutes before the terrible performance was too much for folks to take. So we switched to the unlocked campaign hoping that with low/no population it would be playable, but it was not. Then people just got off ESO.
I did think it was funny how late damage was registering though. I was on my warden and the damage from my beetles was not registering for about a full second after the animation. It made for some interesting combos. Lol2 -
karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Put No Lock + No CP on top of list.
The best PvP and most balanced should be on top.
Also remove CP PvP.3 -
NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
✭If everyone prefers locked, then nobody is going to be faction hopping right? Nice, problem solved.
Or are we interested in removing choice from players due to the fear of a small number of trolls?PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.2 -
hasi✭✭✭✭I am wondering more why I am only getting 97 AP per Repair on a Healer with the 20% AP Buff.(CP Campaign)😂0
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NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
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You say it isn’t locking due to hopping, yet you have spent the last week on the forums saying how the game is unplayable and you have had enough.
You can’t just make stuff up to suit an agenda, especially when your bias is all over the forums and everyone else has access to the same information and the campaign, but most importantly, who are you guys trying to convince? Because Zenimax can likely just check the number of players homed to a particular campaign and any arguments outside that number are pointless.PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.4 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭Syrusthevirus187 wrote: »Most pvp'ers have stopped playing. All that's left are the role players. They can have their faction lock and fight each other over and over.
Hahaha and who are these mysterious PVPers? There are few thousand people playing in alliance locked guilds. That's not roleplaying, thats self organization, co-ordination and leaderships. When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map and all what small scale famous PVPers can do is to gank Xv1 PVE'rs questing & doing skyshards in Cyrodiil xDDDD0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Syrusthevirus187 wrote: »Most pvp'ers have stopped playing. All that's left are the role players. They can have their faction lock and fight each other over and over.
Hahaha and who are these mysterious PVPers? There are few thousand people playing in alliance locked guilds. That's not roleplaying, thats self organization, co-ordination and leaderships. When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map and all what small scale famous PVPers can do is to gank Xv1 PVE'rs questing & doing skyshards in Cyrodiil xDDDD
That's an interesting statement. Especially after you consider that population cap is ~110 players per faction...4 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭
Uuuuuu I don't know what is cap these days, but I think it's highers and beside it's obvious that not everyone is online at once hmmmm? Interesting statement? Use guild search and you will find out how many "role players" (haha) are in this game. I think it's pretty obvious that people make friends in the guilds and they wanna stick with them and also they wanna maximise their profits at the end of campaign so they have all 18 characters on one side. People still play noCP without alliance lock because THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, not because they love this idea.Syrusthevirus187 wrote: »Most pvp'ers have stopped playing. All that's left are the role players. They can have their faction lock and fight each other over and over.
Hahaha and who are these mysterious PVPers? There are few thousand people playing in alliance locked guilds. That's not roleplaying, thats self organization, co-ordination and leaderships. When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map and all what small scale famous PVPers can do is to gank Xv1 PVE'rs questing & doing skyshards in Cyrodiil xDDDD
That's an interesting statement. Especially after you consider that population cap is ~110 players per faction...
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Sylosi✭✭✭✭✭
✭When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map...
Fine example of a PvE player mindset. A PvP player/ guild would get bored steamrolling maps, as all it offers is dull, unchallenging, low skilled, low quality "PvP".
Which fundamentally is why RvR fails in every game that tries it, "PvP" so uncompetitve, so low skilled, so mindnumblingly brainless that it only appeals to players who don't value actual decent PvP gameplay, aka PvE'ers. (and yes that also includes laughable 1vX players fighting people who have played a fraction of the time, don't practice smallscale, are on zerg builds, are 70 years old, etc_)
Edited by Sylosi on March 11, 2020 6:16PM4 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭[When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map...
Fine example of a PvE player mindset, a PvP player/ guild would get bored steamrolling maps, as all it offers is dull, unchallenging, low skilled, low quality "PvP".
Which fundamentally is why RvR fails in every game that tries it, "PvP" that only appeals to deluded PvE players. (and yes that also includes laughable 1vX players fighting people who have played a fraction of the time, don't practice smallscale, are on zerg builds, etc_
Nonsense, most of my guildies play battlegrounds and IC for small scale or to test their builds and they are doing excelent. I think every Cyrodiil player uses BGs as testground for their builds (except bombers). According to your opinion, winning should be banned, using effective builds & tactics should be not allowed to and we should fight a fair 1vs duels one after another to capture keeps. Pls, all alliances are doing same thing, just because some of them are more effective it doesn't mean that it's so easy to achieve that. Besides I don't know what you are implying, with alliance lock or without zergs will be still a thing, but it's not what alliances are all about.1 -
Sylosi✭✭✭✭✭
✭[When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map...
Fine example of a PvE player mindset, a PvP player/ guild would get bored steamrolling maps, as all it offers is dull, unchallenging, low skilled, low quality "PvP".
Which fundamentally is why RvR fails in every game that tries it, "PvP" that only appeals to deluded PvE players. (and yes that also includes laughable 1vX players fighting people who have played a fraction of the time, don't practice smallscale, are on zerg builds, etc_
Nonsense, most of my guildies play battlegrounds and IC for small scale or to test their builds and they are doing excelent. I think every Cyrodiil player uses BGs as testground for their builds (except bombers). According to your opinion, winning should be banned, using effective builds & tactics should be not allowed to and we should fight a fair 1vs duels one after another to capture keeps. Pls, all alliances are doing same thing, just because some of them are more effective it doesn't mean that it's so easy to achieve that. Besides I don't know what you are implying, with alliance lock or without zergs will be still a thing, but it's not what alliances are all about.
Whoosh...Edited by Sylosi on March 11, 2020 5:56PM1 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭[When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map...
Fine example of a PvE player mindset, a PvP player/ guild would get bored steamrolling maps, as all it offers is dull, unchallenging, low skilled, low quality "PvP".
Which fundamentally is why RvR fails in every game that tries it, "PvP" that only appeals to deluded PvE players. (and yes that also includes laughable 1vX players fighting people who have played a fraction of the time, don't practice smallscale, are on zerg builds, etc_
Nonsense, most of my guildies play battlegrounds and IC for small scale or to test their builds and they are doing excelent. I think every Cyrodiil player uses BGs as testground for their builds (except bombers). According to your opinion, winning should be banned, using effective builds & tactics should be not allowed to and we should fight a fair 1vs duels one after another to capture keeps. Pls, all alliances are doing same thing, just because some of them are more effective it doesn't mean that it's so easy to achieve that. Besides I don't know what you are implying, with alliance lock or without zergs will be still a thing, but it's not what alliances are all about.
Whoosh... You PvE players are amusing.
Is that supouse to be an insult? I'm both PVE/PVP.... Ohhhh thats ubeliveble isn't it? But heeyyyy, what would you expect from forum dwellers, who complain about organised groups while they cant even organise their character login screen.... Seriously ZOS should completly ignore vocal majority on these forums, because you are not representing even 1% of player base.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »If everyone prefers locked, then nobody is going to be faction hopping right? Nice, problem solved.
Or are we interested in removing choice from players due to the fear of a small number of trolls?Syrusthevirus187 wrote: »Most pvp'ers have stopped playing. All that's left are the role players. They can have their faction lock and fight each other over and over.
Hahaha and who are these mysterious PVPers? There are few thousand people playing in alliance locked guilds. That's not roleplaying, thats self organization, co-ordination and leaderships. When my guildies are online, we steamroll entire map and all what small scale famous PVPers can do is to gank Xv1 PVE'rs questing & doing skyshards in Cyrodiil xDDDD
So you guild runs nothing but zergs. Sad. A small group with a solid leader is better than running with a zerg any day of the week.4 -
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✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »
You say it isn’t locking due to hopping, yet you have spent the last week on the forums saying how the game is unplayable and you have had enough.
You can’t just make stuff up to suit an agenda, especially when your bias is all over the forums and everyone else has access to the same information and the campaign, but most importantly, who are you guys trying to convince? Because Zenimax can likely just check the number of players homed to a particular campaign and any arguments outside that number are pointless.
I can tell you as a PS4 non cp player....... Our non cp campaign is now 100% dead. The main 2 guilds that played in there have now migrated to the locked campaign. I logged in for the lols to see what it looked like, entire map was red. Blue top emp leader was outscoring the next by a lot. And people with 80,000 ap were on the top 10 on a campaign that was pretty full and very competitive when it came to new emp days.........
But yeah people don't prefer alliance lock right? (Btw blue won the entire thing before the reset and now they all left)
On PS4 na it is full of people who try their best to scroll steal, swap emps, even had them trying to sell emp runs. They would send people angry messages and not allow people to crown emp (before when it was faction locked)....... Now it's unlocked so they can just easily control the entire outcome by swapping and that is fair/fun for all of us how?
Oh that's right all people care about is cheating the system...... I mean playing with your friends........5 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »So, day 1 on console..
New campaigns, new choice.
Gray Host is listed with a big fat (Alliance Locked) next to it....
And it's pop locked on Xbox EU, Other campaigns have no bars at all.
Are people seriously going to still come here and say it's the minority that want alliance lock?
Oh and PS, -10 internet points for anyone that has the audacity to say "it's the order they are listed in, PvPers are troglodytes that can't read" lol.
Choice has been there for what, 9 months now and gone through another full reset.
Why is this even a discussion? Most players are causals who have one or two PvP characters of the same alliance, and they run in zergs with the 10 to 20 zerg leaders who push for alliance locks due to intense paranoia about spies and other RP stuff. The zerg leaders say what campaign to main in the guild message, and the casuals or zerg players fall into line and start 24v1ing people as usual. Im sure no one is suprised that the PvP hive likes alliance lock.
That would mean the majority of people who had a strong enough preference for it to matter want alliance locked.
Edited by spartaxoxo on March 11, 2020 9:30PM0 -
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✭✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »Need Battlegrounds that I can use CP in so my characters don't feel worse in them. For Cyrodiil, you want to PvP where the crowd is.
nope, CP is awful for Cyro too. Nobody dies ever.
I have no problem killing, but I also spec out for actually doing damage, rather than a tank with off-dps.PC/Xbox NA
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Vicinia✭✭✭✭Kidgangster101 wrote: »NeillMcAttack wrote: »
You say it isn’t locking due to hopping, yet you have spent the last week on the forums saying how the game is unplayable and you have had enough.
You can’t just make stuff up to suit an agenda, especially when your bias is all over the forums and everyone else has access to the same information and the campaign, but most importantly, who are you guys trying to convince? Because Zenimax can likely just check the number of players homed to a particular campaign and any arguments outside that number are pointless.
I can tell you as a PS4 non cp player....... Our non cp campaign is now 100% dead. The main 2 guilds that played in there have now migrated to the locked campaign. I logged in for the lols to see what it looked like, entire map was red. Blue top emp leader was outscoring the next by a lot. And people with 80,000 ap were on the top 10 on a campaign that was pretty full and very competitive when it came to new emp days.........
But yeah people don't prefer alliance lock right? (Btw blue won the entire thing before the reset and now they all left)
On PS4 na it is full of people who try their best to scroll steal, swap emps, even had them trying to sell emp runs. They would send people angry messages and not allow people to crown emp (before when it was faction locked)....... Now it's unlocked so they can just easily control the entire outcome by swapping and that is fair/fun for all of us how?
Oh that's right all people care about is cheating the system...... I mean playing with your friends........
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