Maintenance for the week of February 23:
· [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
· [COMPLETE] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
· [COMPLETE] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
Nightblades have had enough.
-
Coppes✭✭✭✭Cloak is the signature NB defense.
If you remove it, you have to replace it with something that isn’t a carbon-copy of another ability.1 -
BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭Shadowasrial wrote: »If they buffed the base stealth mechanics nb would be pretty decent but they refuse to so they need to buff our core skills to hit much harder. And for the love of god remove the bloody cast times
No matter what they do, buffing nightblade is direct buff to gank playstyle too - and thats what they wanna get rid of. Your main source of problem is cloak.
I could say that 100% critical chance is issue there. Noone likes to get hit by 20k snipe while that nightblade is safely 40m away. (there is reason why 99% of all gankers are nightblades)
They could change it to be good while not owerpowered. Make it unbreakable - no enemy aoes can pull you out of cloak, detect potions are removed from game, with same duration as it is now. Supress all dots on you but you cannot heal while cloak is up.
Just give nightblade reliable skill for survivability which cannot be abused by gankers.
Sounds good for bombing..0 -
Vercingetorix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Vercingetorix wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »NIghtblade will never be balanced among other classes because it has the most overpowered ability solely in its toolkit - invisibility. Being able to manipulate aggro on a whim will always draw attention for re-balancing. Yes, it may not work that well right now but a few years ago Nightblades were the most dominant class in the game and that of course is going to warrant nerfs.
To some degree, Nightblades are still overpowered compared to other classes.- Nightblade class passives are all powerful and useful, each of them provides something the class needs - other classes have at least one or more useless passives. Nightblades don't have to make sacrifices with their passives - they get burst, sustain, and higher max resources - literally everything - just for slotting their strongest abilities.
Almost none of what you just said is true. You start off by saying that cloak is the "most overpowered ability" and then immediately contradict yourself in the next sentence when you admit that "yes, it may not work that well right now." Then you start talking about how strong NBs used to be, lol. In case you haven't noticed, this thread is about how weak NBs are — and I can tell you don't seriously play one because nearly all of your second paragraph is just flat out wrong.
Wrong, I do play Nightblade and know the toolkit quite well. It's still overpowered, despite the bugs. Invisibility will ALWAYS be overpowered - there's no getting past that fact. Manipulating aggro is quite literally god mode in any game with combat and it's always felt that way when I've played on my Nightblade. Just because there's bugs and issues with the cloak spell right now doesn't warrant buffs to the class. What it DOES warrant is fixes to those issues, but that's it.
If cloak is OP, then every other defensive ability is also OP
Streak
Shields
Both of which allow you to manipulate aggro
Any healing ability or skill that gives healing also allows for a partial reset.
Cloak is literally the only thing a med or light armor NB can do defensively and even then there are 7 or 8 different things that counter cloak.
NB are literally outclassed by almost every other spec played by a player of equal skill.
Not sure what you all are complaining about. The other guy also thinks I don't play as a NB. That's fine - I guess I'll just keep bursting people in an easy 2-hit combo for a minimum of 40k+ that I've been able to do since Morrowind. There's a nasty little gear set combo mag NBs get exclusive use out of that gets you crazy high numbers, regardless of how much impen the opponent has. Ignore the meta - you'll get more mileage out of your class, I promise you.Edited by Vercingetorix on March 10, 2020 8:52PM“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”1 -
Langeston✭✭✭✭✭
✭Vercingetorix wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »NIghtblade will never be balanced among other classes because it has the most overpowered ability solely in its toolkit - invisibility. Being able to manipulate aggro on a whim will always draw attention for re-balancing. Yes, it may not work that well right now but a few years ago Nightblades were the most dominant class in the game and that of course is going to warrant nerfs.
To some degree, Nightblades are still overpowered compared to other classes.- Nightblade class passives are all powerful and useful, each of them provides something the class needs - other classes have at least one or more useless passives. Nightblades don't have to make sacrifices with their passives - they get burst, sustain, and higher max resources - literally everything - just for slotting their strongest abilities.
Almost none of what you just said is true. You start off by saying that cloak is the "most overpowered ability" and then immediately contradict yourself in the next sentence when you admit that "yes, it may not work that well right now." Then you start talking about how strong NBs used to be, lol. In case you haven't noticed, this thread is about how weak NBs are — and I can tell you don't seriously play one because nearly all of your second paragraph is just flat out wrong.
Wrong, I do play Nightblade and know the toolkit quite well. It's still overpowered, despite the bugs. Invisibility will ALWAYS be overpowered - there's no getting past that fact. Manipulating aggro is quite literally god mode in any game with combat and it's always felt that way when I've played on my Nightblade. Just because there's bugs and issues with the cloak spell right now doesn't warrant buffs to the class. What it DOES warrant is fixes to those issues, but that's it.
If cloak is OP, then every other defensive ability is also OP
Streak
Shields
Both of which allow you to manipulate aggro
Any healing ability or skill that gives healing also allows for a partial reset.
Cloak is literally the only thing a med or light armor NB can do defensively and even then there are 7 or 8 different things that counter cloak.
NB are literally outclassed by almost every other spec played by a player of equal skill.
Not sure what you all are complaining about. The other guy also thinks I don't play as a NB. That's fine - I guess I'll just keep bursting people in an easy 2-hit combo for a minimum of 40k+ that I've been able to do since Morrowind. There's a nasty little gear set combo mag NBs get exclusive use out of that's gets you crazy high numbers, regardless of how much impen the opponent has. Ignore the meta - you'll get more mileage out of your class, I promise you.
Lol, so magblades are OP because...proc sets? It's becoming more and more difficult to take you seriously.2 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I've been playing Nb since beta and always played on a pretty high level (= being able to 1vX and compete with tournament players and streamers in 1v1s). The class simply can't compete with the meta specs anymore and the combat team seems to give a sh*t about it. Playing other games now and haven't spend any money on this trash since Elswyer.
What platform do you plan on?0