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D3N7157✭✭✭✭
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
yeah
Seriously, though, I don't understand. Harmony groups are a bigger playstyle issue than snipe because it's wildly overtuned and ez, but you choose NBs to pick on? Yikes.
Harmony groups are predictable and easy to avoid, getting sniped is unavoidable and inevitable if the playstyle is viable like it used to be, all outnumbered pvp feels much healthier currently and that is because everyone shelved their stamblade. Sad but true.0 -
IndianaJames7✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
No, wiping zergs is great, and ZOS should do more to push people towards solo/small scale pvp then the current state of mega zergs everywhere.
My point is that you are very inconsistent in a way that is biased against nightblade playstyle specifically. And your argument of not having counterplay against 3 coordinated nightblades is very hypocritical if you are fine with bomb groups wrecking not just 1 player, but many at the same time.4 -
D3N7157✭✭✭✭ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
Are you saying wiping one person is not fine?
I’m saying Xv1 one person with multiple ranged abilities is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage come in range, current stun range is great I think ZOS nailed it. 40 meter range flame clench spam was annoying but not nearly as lethal as nb snipers, not as prevalent either to be fair...0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭IndianaJames7 wrote: »ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
No, wiping zergs is great, and ZOS should do more to push people towards solo/small scale pvp then the current state of mega zergs everywhere.
My point is that you are very inconsistent in a way that is biased against nightblade playstyle specifically. And your argument of not having counterplay against 3 coordinated nightblades is very hypocritical if you are fine with bomb groups wrecking not just 1 player, but many at the same time.
You definately have a point and i agree with the small scale tools needed vs zerg that cant also be used to make a zerg more effective.
There will always be a way to 'gank' or '1 shot players' because ZO$ dont play there game properly, i just wish it wasnt the D-bags who always figured it out lol.0 -
Rahar✭✭✭✭
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
yeah
Seriously, though, I don't understand. Harmony groups are a bigger playstyle issue than snipe because it's wildly overtuned and ez, but you choose NBs to pick on? Yikes.
Harmony groups are predictable and easy to avoid, getting sniped is unavoidable and inevitable if the playstyle is viable like it used to be, all outnumbered pvp feels much healthier currently and that is because everyone shelved their stamblade. Sad but true.
Not so sure about that. You ever been DK chain pulled into a Leap, Colossus and double Boneyard combo? It hurts. Actually, it's instant death.
Anyway, you can use the exact same logic to dismiss snipe as a playstyle.NeRf MaGsOrC0 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
Are you saying wiping one person is not fine?
I’m saying Xv1 one person with multiple ranged abilities is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage come in range, current stun range is great I think ZOS nailed it. 40 meter range flame clench spam was annoying but not nearly as lethal as nb snipers, not as prevalent either to be fair...
Reporting this thread as it provides nothing productive for the community. You are just asking for bait when you use words like scummy.4 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭How is 'snipe play style' unhealthy ?
NB's have been seriously nerfed and Snipe is a BOW SKILL not a NB skill lol2 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭I find PVP stupid mainly because it takes around 5 abilities to kill another player. It's not even fun and if you get jumped by a group or surprised by a single player it take all the fun out of playing PVP.
The minimum number of hits to kill a DPS type character should be around 10, not 5. This means all damage should be adjusted down by 50%. It would improve PVP greatly IMO.
Next up is how a kill works, whoever does the most damage to the player during that fight should count towards a kill.
I was in a battle ground and it was my group of 4 vs. 8. Yeah I said 8. The other two teams didn't bother attacking each other unless one was about ready to die than they turn around and killed that player. Double grouping really is annoying and I see quite often when I Q random and get death match.
If ZoS would simply but a cap on damage it would improve PVP for me and probably many others.
As for the main issue per the OP and Nightblade. I can see your points and I agree with most of them. The thing is though until the devs find a way to truly balance out PVP and make it FUN for more players you will continue to see a variety of NERFS that just don't make sense. One of the best way to resolve the PVP issue is put in place hard damage cap for PVP to ensure that all players can have fun. That cap would require adjustments based on if the other player status or if the player doing the damage is invisible or not.
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MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »I find PVP stupid mainly because it takes around 5 abilities to kill another player. It's not even fun and if you get jumped by a group or surprised by a single player it take all the fun out of playing PVP.
The minimum number of hits to kill a DPS type character should be around 10, not 5. This means all damage should be adjusted down by 50%. It would improve PVP greatly IMO.
Next up is how a kill works, whoever does the most damage to the player during that fight should count towards a kill.
I was in a battle ground and it was my group of 4 vs. 8. Yeah I said 8. The other two teams didn't bother attacking each other unless one was about ready to die than they turn around and killed that player. Double grouping really is annoying and I see quite often when I Q random and get death match.
If ZoS would simply but a cap on damage it would improve PVP for me and probably many others.
As for the main issue per the OP and Nightblade. I can see your points and I agree with most of them. The thing is though until the devs find a way to truly balance out PVP and make it FUN for more players you will continue to see a variety of NERFS that just don't make sense. One of the best way to resolve the PVP issue is put in place hard damage cap for PVP to ensure that all players can have fun. That cap would require adjustments based on if the other player status or if the player doing the damage is invisible or not.
do you know what battle spirit is?1 -
oXI_Viper_IXo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »I find PVP stupid mainly because it takes around 5 abilities to kill another player. It's not even fun and if you get jumped by a group or surprised by a single player it take all the fun out of playing PVP.
The minimum number of hits to kill a DPS type character should be around 10, not 5. This means all damage should be adjusted down by 50%. It would improve PVP greatly IMO.
We are already in the wet noodle meta and you want to make it twice as bad? Wow...Edited by oXI_Viper_IXo on March 9, 2020 9:07PM1 -
Dr_Ganknstein✭✭✭✭✭
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Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
yeah
Seriously, though, I don't understand. Harmony groups are a bigger playstyle issue than snipe because it's wildly overtuned and ez, but you choose NBs to pick on? Yikes.
Harmony groups are predictable and easy to avoid, getting sniped is unavoidable and inevitable if the playstyle is viable like it used to be, all outnumbered pvp feels much healthier currently and that is because everyone shelved their stamblade. Sad but true.
Most outnumbered pvp consistsZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
Are you saying wiping one person is not fine?
I’m saying Xv1 one person with multiple ranged abilities is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage come in range, current stun range is great I think ZOS nailed it. 40 meter range flame clench spam was annoying but not nearly as lethal as nb snipers, not as prevalent either to be fair...
Fighting up close is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage get in my los. I'm liking my bow NB currently. Haven't shelved it. I thought you were asking for a nerf to ranged combat.1 -
D3N7157✭✭✭✭
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
yeah
Seriously, though, I don't understand. Harmony groups are a bigger playstyle issue than snipe because it's wildly overtuned and ez, but you choose NBs to pick on? Yikes.
Harmony groups are predictable and easy to avoid, getting sniped is unavoidable and inevitable if the playstyle is viable like it used to be, all outnumbered pvp feels much healthier currently and that is because everyone shelved their stamblade. Sad but true.
Most outnumbered pvp consistsZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
Are you saying wiping one person is not fine?
I’m saying Xv1 one person with multiple ranged abilities is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage come in range, current stun range is great I think ZOS nailed it. 40 meter range flame clench spam was annoying but not nearly as lethal as nb snipers, not as prevalent either to be fair...
Fighting up close is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage get in my los. I'm liking my bow NB currently. Haven't shelved it. I thought you were asking for a nerf to ranged combat.
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Rahar✭✭✭✭with the level of dialogue descended and out of the way, its time to close the threadNeRf MaGsOrC2
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brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
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Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
yeah
Seriously, though, I don't understand. Harmony groups are a bigger playstyle issue than snipe because it's wildly overtuned and ez, but you choose NBs to pick on? Yikes.
Harmony groups are predictable and easy to avoid, getting sniped is unavoidable and inevitable if the playstyle is viable like it used to be, all outnumbered pvp feels much healthier currently and that is because everyone shelved their stamblade. Sad but true.
Most outnumbered pvp consistsZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
Are you saying wiping one person is not fine?
I’m saying Xv1 one person with multiple ranged abilities is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage come in range, current stun range is great I think ZOS nailed it. 40 meter range flame clench spam was annoying but not nearly as lethal as nb snipers, not as prevalent either to be fair...
Fighting up close is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage get in my los. I'm liking my bow NB currently. Haven't shelved it. I thought you were asking for a nerf to ranged combat.
As a father of an autistic child, I find this offensive.11 -
D3N7157✭✭✭✭What about free speech this is the nightblade lobby we don’t like the truth so we are going to report this thread and close it. Just proves my point really.0
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D3N7157✭✭✭✭
Pic or didn’t happenbrandonv516 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
yeah
Seriously, though, I don't understand. Harmony groups are a bigger playstyle issue than snipe because it's wildly overtuned and ez, but you choose NBs to pick on? Yikes.
Harmony groups are predictable and easy to avoid, getting sniped is unavoidable and inevitable if the playstyle is viable like it used to be, all outnumbered pvp feels much healthier currently and that is because everyone shelved their stamblade. Sad but true.
Most outnumbered pvp consistsZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
Recently we've had to remove several posts for baiting and flaming, content that is against the Forum Rules. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid thread derailment.
Thank you for understanding.
Thanks ZenimaxIndianaJames7 wrote: »
Ok so you are calling me and my two friends a ball group?! You sound like some of the hate whispers we receive.
So 3 nightblades targeting a burst that can delete one player single target is a problem, but 3 players targeting a burst that can aoe wipe a Zerg is fine? Got it.
Well are you saying wiping zergs is not fine?
Says something ngl...
Are you saying wiping one person is not fine?
I’m saying Xv1 one person with multiple ranged abilities is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage come in range, current stun range is great I think ZOS nailed it. 40 meter range flame clench spam was annoying but not nearly as lethal as nb snipers, not as prevalent either to be fair...
Fighting up close is scummy and should not happen in this game, you want to engage get in my los. I'm liking my bow NB currently. Haven't shelved it. I thought you were asking for a nerf to ranged combat.
As a father of an autistic child, I find this offensive.
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[Deleted User]Soul ShrivenHello everyone,
With this thread continuing to derail with baiting, flaming and inappropriate content, we're going to go ahead and close it down. For further posts be sure to stay constructive and respectful with the Forum Rules in mind to avoid thread derailment or action on one's own account.
Thank you for understanding.4
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