Helms that do not hide hair [request]
Arahallris
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Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Here are some examples:
Edited by Arahallris on March 7, 2020 12:12AM I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Here are some examples:
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Magenpie✭✭✭✭✭Agree Agree Agree - time all mmos allowed us to wear hats and not go bald (realise you're talking about masks but I hope you know what I mean.)
2020 - surely The Technology is with us?!
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Arahallris✭✭✭Agree Agree Agree - time all mmos allowed us to wear hats and not go bald (realise you're talking about masks but I hope you know what I mean.)
2020 - surely The Technology is with us?!
I know right. This game for an mmo is still kind of modern. There's no excuse not to have them, don't wanna rant but yeah six years and none yet.
Love the game, I would love it more with things like this 4 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Fully agree to more Bandit / Highwayman masks/scarves without hats or hoods attached!
Also... Hair and ears need more love! More actual hats in motif styles (yes i love silver dawn style - all except for the neckwarmer and tucked in ears).
Just a shameless plug
Floppy stocking caps (like new life monk cap, but longer, and floppier!)
Chaperons!
HeavyMedium
Light
Of course, with Chaperons - would need to have hide shoulders to get the full benefit.
And technically classified as a Chaperon.
Edited by StormeReigns on March 4, 2020 4:43AM5 -
16BitForestCat✭✭✭✭✭*LOL* Are you me? My RP groups have been complaining about this issue for years. Many of them RP thieves and want a mask that hides the lower half of their face but still be able to ID each other at a glance by hair and other physical traits (nameplates are not always reliable if there's someone else standing nearby). Or they RP members of a mage society in which the members wear lower-face masks so no one can read their lips to know they're casting. Or they RP spies who wear face masks to also avoid lip-reading. These are not uncommon scenarios in RP. And there are plenty of non-RP'ing players who'd just like to cover part of their face, but not their whole head, for sheer style. Lower-face masks are really common in fantasy settings, and I've always been surprised they aren't available as independent pieces in ESO.
There's already a dancer's veil that came in crown crates a while back (which doesn't really do anything to hide the bottom half of the face and required crown germs to purchase), and there are NPC's who wear just a face mask with no helmet, so it's weird that we haven't seen more of this available to players after all this time. But hey, let's make six more indrik reskins! (And I say that as someone who loves indriks.) (Strikethrough part is because I received some probably incorrect info, but it was replied to already so I don't want to just delete it.
) Edited by 16BitForestCat on March 4, 2020 6:06AM—PC/NA, never Steam—
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Arahallris✭✭✭
Kept submitting suggestions for a couple years now, and to no avail we now have this thread.16BitForestCat wrote: »*LOL* Are you me? My RP groups have been complaining about this issue for years. Many of them RP thieves and want a mask that hides the lower half of their face but still be able to ID each other at a glance by hair and other physical traits
It's always my favourite armour theme in any game I play.
Are there? Suppose I have not been paying much attention.16BitForestCat wrote: »
there are NPC's who wear just a face mask with no helmetEdited by Arahallris on March 4, 2020 5:17AM2 -
16BitForestCat✭✭✭✭✭Arahallris wrote: »Are there? Suppose I have not been paying much attention.
Hm....I actually went back to Twitter and asked the person who said before that there were ESO NPC's wearing that type of mask (we ranted about this topic...again...just last week, so it's still fresh in my mind). He said he must have gotten confused with another game because he couldn't recall any ESO NPC's like that. So there probably aren't any in ESO--I certainly couldn't remember any I'd seen for myself! But that brings up another point, which is that those masks *do* exist in many other games--just not this one. Glaring omission.
Edited by 16BitForestCat on March 4, 2020 5:30AM—PC/NA, never Steam—
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Arahallris✭✭✭16BitForestCat wrote: »Arahallris wrote: »Are there? Suppose I have not been paying much attention.
Hm....I actually went back to Twitter and asked the person who said before that there were ESO NPC's wearing that type of mask (we ranted about this topic...again...just last week, so it's still fresh in my mind). He said he must have gotten confused with another game because he couldn't recall any ESO NPC's like that. So there probably aren't any in ESO--I certainly couldn't remember any I'd seen for myself! But that brings up another point, which is that those masks *do* exist in many other games--just not this one. Glaring omission.
Figured, although that would make me pretty salty to see npcs having them while we didn't.
Especially with older games as well, I'm really baffled that Zenimax doesn't have the tools to make that happen, or claim to anyway. It's not like we have any beast races with elongated faces.
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✭✭✭✭More imagination in motif set design would be great.
It’s embarrassing and tedious that we have an outfit system that has 72 separate designs for crotch flaps and only about 3 that appear suitable for anything other than full-on medieval jousting.
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RaptorRodeoGod✭✭✭✭✭I just want something the doesn't hide or get hidden by my rhino horn man. All them crown adornments get plopped right under where my horn attaches to my skullAdd a Scribing skill that works like Arcanist beam.
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Irfind✭✭✭✭✭Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Here are some examples:
I want, give meeeeeeeeeeeee
PC EU no CP PVPEP Irfind - Stam NB DunmerEP Iswind - Mag Warden DunmerEP Ko'runa Silberklaue - Mag Temp KhajiitEP Eldrid Hagal - Mag DK DunmerEP Feyne R'is - Stam Sorc Dunmer ...with BowEP Wynn Loraethaine - Mag NB DunmerAD Runare Loraethaine - Stam Sorc AltmerAD Skadi Hagal - Stam DK Khajiit6 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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Well, duh, otherwise it would not be a -helmet-!Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
But... we DO have hats in the costume department!
And all the "facemask" of various styles would fit in there pretty well I daresay! No matter of highwayman "pulled up scarf" or "masquerade ball" ornate facemask, or "zorro" style bandanna with eyeholes or "Friday the 13th" style hockey mask...
But I mentioned such looong ago: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/323156/mad-hatter-memo
(Yeah, some of those we have gotten since)
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Arahallris✭✭✭
No duh, captain chromosome, helms in this regard are merely head-slots.TheShadowScout wrote: »
Well, duh, otherwise it would not be a -helmet-!Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Only if I could.
I want, give meeeeeeeeeeeee
Lotro has tons of those chaperons, they don't really seem very popular in fantasy games. I will confess they aren't too aesthetically pleasing to me though the option should of course be there.StormeReigns wrote: »Fully agree to more Bandit / Highwayman masks/scarves without hats or hoods attached!
Also... Hair and ears need more love! More actual hats in motif styles (yes i love silver dawn style - all except for the neckwarmer and tucked in ears).
You linked a bloke in a suit of armour that for whatever reason made me think of the lack of bevor in armour in almost every fantasy game. (Not to be confused with a gorget of course)
There definitely needs to be more of that as well!
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✭✭Arahallris wrote: »
No duh, captain chromosome, helms in this regard are merely head-slots.TheShadowScout wrote: »
Well, duh, otherwise it would not be a -helmet-!Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Only if I could.
I want, give meeeeeeeeeeeee
Lotro has tons of those chaperons, they don't really seem very popular in fantasy games. I will confess they aren't too aesthetically pleasing to me though the option should of course be there.StormeReigns wrote: »Fully agree to more Bandit / Highwayman masks/scarves without hats or hoods attached!
Also... Hair and ears need more love! More actual hats in motif styles (yes i love silver dawn style - all except for the neckwarmer and tucked in ears).
You linked a bloke in a suit of armour that for whatever reason made me think of the lack of bevor in armour in almost every fantasy game. (Not to be confused with a gorget of course)
There definitely needs to be more of that as well!
By Pyrite, Mephala and Nocturnal that is damn sexy!1 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »Arahallris wrote: »
No duh, captain chromosome, helms in this regard are merely head-slots.TheShadowScout wrote: »
Well, duh, otherwise it would not be a -helmet-!Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Only if I could.
I want, give meeeeeeeeeeeee
Lotro has tons of those chaperons, they don't really seem very popular in fantasy games. I will confess they aren't too aesthetically pleasing to me though the option should of course be there.StormeReigns wrote: »Fully agree to more Bandit / Highwayman masks/scarves without hats or hoods attached!
Also... Hair and ears need more love! More actual hats in motif styles (yes i love silver dawn style - all except for the neckwarmer and tucked in ears).
You linked a bloke in a suit of armour that for whatever reason made me think of the lack of bevor in armour in almost every fantasy game. (Not to be confused with a gorget of course)
There definitely needs to be more of that as well!
By Pyrite, Mephala and Nocturnal that is damn sexy!
IRL that part was connected with pretty heavy helm. Nobody in sane mind will go to combat in armor which protects mouth but doesn't protect... more valuable parts of head 0 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »StormeReigns wrote: »Arahallris wrote: »
No duh, captain chromosome, helms in this regard are merely head-slots.TheShadowScout wrote: »
Well, duh, otherwise it would not be a -helmet-!Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Only if I could.
I want, give meeeeeeeeeeeee
Lotro has tons of those chaperons, they don't really seem very popular in fantasy games. I will confess they aren't too aesthetically pleasing to me though the option should of course be there.StormeReigns wrote: »Fully agree to more Bandit / Highwayman masks/scarves without hats or hoods attached!
Also... Hair and ears need more love! More actual hats in motif styles (yes i love silver dawn style - all except for the neckwarmer and tucked in ears).
You linked a bloke in a suit of armour that for whatever reason made me think of the lack of bevor in armour in almost every fantasy game. (Not to be confused with a gorget of course)
There definitely needs to be more of that as well!
By Pyrite, Mephala and Nocturnal that is damn sexy!
IRL that part was connected with pretty heavy helm. Nobody in sane mind will go to combat in armor which protects mouth but doesn't protect... more valuable parts of head
Well..., oh yeah... um... I can dream! lol0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Arahallris wrote: »Would love to see head items to do not hide your hair such as traditional rogue scarfs that hide the nose/jaw and or regular various masks that just cover the face in general. Pretty much the one of the only visuals themes ESO is missing.
I die a little each time I see a mask that has a hood attached to it.
Here are some examples:
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RD065✭✭✭✭I would like hoods, that are dye-able, without the mask. Like the Thieves Guild costume which has a hood with mask but remove the mask. I haven't seen a hood like that but with no mask.Edited by RD065 on March 7, 2020 1:59AM0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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One - way to go, throwing minor insults at someone who mostly agrees with you and actually made the point -years- ago! Sure makes you seem reasonable... NOT!Arahallris wrote: »No duh, captain chromosome, helms in this regard are merely head-slots.
Two - you obviously didn't get what I was saying.
"Helmet" does NOT mean "head-slot", ever.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmet
I used the term as referring to design considerations for "(semi-)realisitic" armor looks, and that means that the "Armor Motiv" bits for headslots by nature -have- to be designed to be head-protective-looking, and to properly protect the noggin (which for some people who like using their brains is kinda considered important), a "helmet" thingie like the ones you feel vexed at for having "a hood attached to it" actually needs to cover the head, not just the face, so there can be something protective in play. Some more, some less, but that's what you get for "helmets" in ESO armor design styles...A helmet is a form of protective gear worn to protect the head. More specifically, a helmet complements the skull in protecting the human brain.
...but not for costume-piece "hats" which can look whatever, be it a fur cap or a pointy witch hat, a flower headdress or a skullcap, a top hat or a pumpkin mask, a crown or a... yes, exactly, the type of facemask you so rightfully ask for to get as option in ESO as well!!!
(And yes, at this point they -could- also add every one of those options to the outfit system under "clothing" or the special outfits, since those are more or less "anything goes" anyway...)
And that is the whole point I was trying to make by saying this, and thinking people would follow the obvious meaning of the term - that it is wrong to expect it from "armor motiv" designs, but right to ask for as "hats" or "clothes" outfit pieces. Sheesh!
There are several... depending on the weight class of course, most of the "just hood" are in the "light" armor class department, but a few styles (frostcaster for example, or psijic for a "helmet under hood" design) have them in medium and even heavy... one way or another. And then there are things like the "prophet" outfit with a hood-style head covering, or the "flannel forester's hood" or "colovian fur hood" hats in the costume section...I would like hoods, that are dye-able, without the mask.0 -
RD065✭✭✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »
One - way to go, throwing minor insults at someone who mostly agrees with you and actually made the point -years- ago! Sure makes you seem reasonable... NOT!Arahallris wrote: »No duh, captain chromosome, helms in this regard are merely head-slots.
Two - you obviously didn't get what I was saying.
"Helmet" does NOT mean "head-slot", ever.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmet
I used the term as referring to design considerations for "(semi-)realisitic" armor looks, and that means that the "Armor Motiv" bits for headslots by nature -have- to be designed to be head-protective-looking, and to properly protect the noggin (which for some people who like using their brains is kinda considered important), a "helmet" thingie like the ones you feel vexed at for having "a hood attached to it" actually needs to cover the head, not just the face, so there can be something protective in play. Some more, some less, but that's what you get for "helmets" in ESO armor design styles...A helmet is a form of protective gear worn to protect the head. More specifically, a helmet complements the skull in protecting the human brain.
...but not for costume-piece "hats" which can look whatever, be it a fur cap or a pointy witch hat, a flower headdress or a skullcap, a top hat or a pumpkin mask, a crown or a... yes, exactly, the type of facemask you so rightfully ask for to get as option in ESO as well!!!
(And yes, at this point they -could- also add every one of those options to the outfit system under "clothing" or the special outfits, since those are more or less "anything goes" anyway...)
And that is the whole point I was trying to make by saying this, and thinking people would follow the obvious meaning of the term - that it is wrong to expect it from "armor motiv" designs, but right to ask for as "hats" or "clothes" outfit pieces. Sheesh!
There are several... depending on the weight class of course, most of the "just hood" are in the "light" armor class department, but a few styles (frostcaster for example, or psijic for a "helmet under hood" design) have them in medium and even heavy... one way or another. And then there are things like the "prophet" outfit with a hood-style head covering, or the "flannel forester's hood" or "colovian fur hood" hats in the costume section...I would like hoods, that are dye-able, without the mask.
Thank you. I wasn't aware.0 -
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✭✭I'm seeing what looks like ESO screenshots with face masks.. how do I get that, what style?Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.0 -
Arahallris✭✭✭Kiyakotari wrote: »Elam Drals
What about him? Besides being the best npc out all the dlcs?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The problem is the age of the engine, and the scarcity of slots. There's only so many head/face/hair slots - and probably the age of the game engine precludes adding more.
Not to mention the issues of animating and rigging.0 -
Arahallris✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »The problem is the age of the engine, and the scarcity of slots. There's only so many head/face/hair slots - and probably the age of the game engine precludes adding more.
Not to mention the issues of animating and rigging.
I doubt it wouldn't be too difficult, no where near as you describe.
Far older games with far older engines seem to be fairing way better.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If helmets aren't compatible with existing hair, then at least give us helmets that include hair. The crown of misrule, the new life festival cap... all of these hats give our character hair to replace what we lost from putting on these hats. So why not make a bunch of hoods with different hair stricking out at the side?Edited by Ratzkifal on March 27, 2020 2:00AMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
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✭✭If helmets aren't compatible with existing hair, then at least give us helmets that include hair. The crown of misrule, the new life festival cap... all of these hats give our character hair to replace what we lost from putting on these hats. So why not make a bunch of hoods with different hair stricking out at the side?
This is reasons why I only use hoods on my Argonians (as well Khajiit.) Absolutely despise hoods on humans and Mer characters. If we could get a bit of the bangs to hang out in the front, Hoods / Hoods + Masks would work great.
Camlorn Hat+Barbaric Windblown Hair
Graverobber's Appraising Hood+Barbaric Windblown Hair
There are already base game hair styles that allow pony tails, bangs as well hair to fall to the sides to fit with certain hats.
I.E: Wolfhunter, Camlorn, New Life, Feathered Bycocket, Plum Wide-brim Acorn Warder to name a few.
Certain hairs styles that provide bangs (like Barbaric) should have at-the-very-least, the bangs to hang out in front like the hats, while keeping the rest hidden on hoods / hoods with masks would be fantastic. Something like this... (stolen from another thread lol)
As well, (mentioned by the OP multiple times and us earlier) introduce solitary highwayman / bandit masks with and without hatsEdited by StormeReigns on March 27, 2020 5:50AM2 -
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Yeah each time a new MMO is released I hope the baldening effect will be gone.time all mmos allowed us to wear hats and not go bald
But alas ESO didn' t do it.
At least they do have the hide helmet option.
Is there any MMO at all that doesn' t remove hair if you wear helmets?
I wonder which one will be first.❆
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