holden_caulfield wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

holden_caulfield wrote: »

Not a nerf thread, I swear.
Just a plea to look into BG scoring system.
A magsorc with matriarch can easily reach the 10k mark every match.
Healing from matriarch gives in the right scenario always a critical healer medal every heal.
To that add the really High burst damage magsorc Can dish out with a really simple rotation (easily macroed if One wants) and magsorc end up with an incredibile High number of killing blows and assists.
And a well set-up magsorc is also really hard to kill even if he puts everything on offence.
Hope not to offend anyone if i dare to say that it is time to buff other classes to the same level.

I agree with OP that sorcs can easily make high scores. Luckily that is not so important. Once the MMR adjust only the really good Sorcs will be in high MMR games and they will not be so common as they are now. Same with NB snipers.

Mmr are base on the score

Dracane wrote: »

L_Nici wrote: »

The problem is they don't deserve it, they don't need to do something for it, they just spam one skill and win while never ever getting in danger.
Magsorc Players in BGs are just sad little childs, that can't play the game but want a save win.
And they are not even able to accept that their class is unbalanced and unfair for everyone else, who actually have to do something to kill, who actually need to take part in combat, who actually need to go to the enemy, who actually can get killed vice versa.

Magsorc: Execute -> haha the explosion will give me the kill anyway screw you.

It is pitiful indeed. Yet has little to do with the class itself. A properly played Sorcerer requires effort just like any other class.

Any class can spam one button and enjoy the laughs. There is a one-sided easy mode for everyone.
I think mage's fury should be used to secure kills that would otherwise go to the enemy team. Nobody should be able to complain about that. I thank every sorcerer who secures an otherwise lost kill.

Pls stop saying 'everybody can' and start giving us REAL scenario.
The logical fallacies in forums in general are astounding (sp?)

Forgive me. That was not my intention.
I was trying to say that there is a 1 button wonder for everyone. But true skill requires more than that.
It is unfortunate that the scoring is handled in such a way. I can only speak for myself and I think victory is more important than anything.

There is no summary that remains after the game. There is no life time statistic that I must feed. After a match, all is forgotten. So who cares for the score? Are you folks mad because your power fantasy remains unfullfilled and if you are not on top of the world, nothing is good enough?

I am fine with taking a backrole. As long as I know what I have contributed to the victory, I care less for what score I have at the end. Even if I was nothing but bait all match, I have contributed by drawing their attention on me.

Again...not a nerf pledge.
Just asking if the BG system is fair.

I know the game enough to think i Can create a sorc and regularly post screenshot of me dominating in BG and losing only to better sorc.
Wanna bet?

@Curious_Death You are propably a Magsorc player from what you say here. Typical, but not the point. The point is not that a magsorc was best, but that Magsorcs have a generally higher chance to win, even if they just spam one stupid skill, because how the game works.
The skill doesn't need to get nerfed, but the scoring system needs to change, that you have to deal a certain amount of damage to even get the killing blow, no matter if your attack hits last, or if you want to go for the nerf that the Execute of the sorc works like Power of the Light, it only explodes if you deal damage to your opponent.

Anyway AND again. Dont nerf sorc.
But Pretty pls with cherry on top give all classe the same performance

Dracane wrote: »

holden_caulfield wrote: »

Again...not a nerf pledge.
Just asking if the BG system is fair.

I know the game enough to think i Can create a sorc and regularly post screenshot of me dominating in BG and losing only to better sorc.
Wanna bet?

A bet that is open for any sort of manipulation from your end. So no, I'd rather not do that.

I Can record my game sessions. Really there is no risk from your part

Yea, sorcs are a really good class filled with mostly whiners who don’t know how good they’ve got it, but..

They’re still not OP. They’re just on the same level as the strongest stam classes.

Medals don’t matter, who wins the BGs matters.

@Iskiab in that case the medals do matter, at least in Death Match, because the magsorcs will steal away all kills and give their team the points, even though they don't deserve them.

Ok.
Am I Crazy? Really do u think your class doesnt have the best tools in game?
And special scenario where even my mother would have time to think her next move doesnt count.
In the BG mayhem your life is easier.

Cleanse? [Snip] Do uever looked at your debuf bar? How many status effects and dot do u have? Yeah right! Purge that *** and 1 second after u are full of *** again

[Edited for baiting]

@Curious_Death I actually did write solutions, in case you didn't noticed it, it was the following:
Make Killing Blows need a certain amount of dealt damage and not just the last hit no matter how weak it was, that would eliminate the Execute kill steal, or at least you won't get points for it anymore.
Or if you want a nerf, just make the sorc Execute like the Power of the Light, you need to deal actual damage while it is applied to get the explosion.

Have u ever noticed that there arent buff sorcs thread?
Enough said.

Ill lfollow the advice gathered here and make a beautiful ranged templar.

After that a sorc only for BG. Ill make sure to post here all my win in BG.
Thank u for your attention and keep your ego up.
Why be objective when u can show all those noobs how strong u are.

Holden out

I took my magsorc out of retirement this morning and already had everything setup. I don’t think they’re OP, but man... anyone who thinks sorcs are underpowered I’m just going to come out and call a noob from now on.

If you’re coming from stam, fine, there’ll be a lot of L2P switching to mag. If you’ve been playing mag though there’s no excuse.