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ESO Linux, Wine and DXVK

remilafo
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Well it's been awhile since i've posted. But I did a performance test recently with latest Wine-Stable and DXVK ver 1.5.4 ..

I am now getting better performance in linux for ESO compared to Windows 10. About 30FPS more in cities and about 10-15 more FPS in dungeons.

Just FYI for those of you who might be considering linux.

But ofcourse hold out for next week, all of this might change.
Edited by remilafo on February 19, 2020 2:30AM
  • TempPlayer
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    What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.
  • thissocalledflower
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    Eso is great on linux. It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it. Only drawback to linux i have found is that Tamriel Trade Center wont run in wine so i had set up a virtualbox using my existing windows install and with some directory sharing so i can run the ttc client from the linux location through the virtualbox. i leave it up and running until i get a green update notification then shut down the virtual box. one core with two gigs of ram is sufficient. no need to make a special install of windows if you use your existing. If you need help with it let me know, i'm glad to help.Manjaro has the easiest setup, the latest kernels, and is smooth going. Minion run easily from the command line but you have to use the commercial version of java (still free to d/l and use) as the open jre wont do.
    Edited by thissocalledflower on February 19, 2020 4:07PM
    After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.
  • thissocalledflower
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    remilafo wrote: »
    Well it's been awhile since i've posted. But I did a performance test recently with latest Wine-Stable and DXVK ver 1.5.4 ..

    I am now getting better performance in linux for ESO compared to Windows 10. About 30FPS more in cities and about 10-15 more FPS in dungeons.

    Just FYI for those of you who might be considering linux.

    But ofcourse hold out for next week, all of this might change.

    any chance you are using an amd card with the free drivers? post the results so we can see them?
    Edited by thissocalledflower on February 19, 2020 4:09PM
    After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.
  • worrallj
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    This sounds fun and makes me want to haul out my personal built PC out of the cobwebs, replace all it's guts, and install Linux. I've been sick of windows lately.
  • ZeroXFF
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    I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.
  • remilafo
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    TempPlayer wrote: »
    What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.

    I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.

    oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.
  • remilafo
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    Eso is great on linux. It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it. Only drawback to linux i have found is that Tamriel Trade Center wont run in wine so i had set up a virtualbox using my existing windows install and with some directory sharing so i can run the ttc client from the linux location through the virtualbox. i leave it up and running until i get a green update notification then shut down the virtual box. one core with two gigs of ram is sufficient. no need to make a special install of windows if you use your existing. If you need help with it let me know, i'm glad to help.Manjaro has the easiest setup, the latest kernels, and is smooth going. Minion run easily from the command line but you have to use the commercial version of java (still free to d/l and use) as the open jre wont do.

    Huh.. that shared directory thing into the wine prefix is pretty clever. Good work.. gonna remember that as that kind of trick might come in handy for other things.
  • ZeroXFF
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    remilafo wrote: »
    TempPlayer wrote: »
    What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.

    I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.

    oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.

    What's really useless are claims of magical FPS improvement that cannot possibly be true. Last time I tried running ESO on linux, it was a stuttery mess.
  • Vyvrhel
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    It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it.

    Can you link a guide how to set it? I tried it on Debian but only old games like Dota 2 etc. were playable.
  • thissocalledflower
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    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    TempPlayer wrote: »
    What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.

    I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.

    oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.

    What's really useless are claims of magical FPS improvement that cannot possibly be true. Last time I tried running ESO on linux, it was a stuttery mess.

    When was that last time? What distro were you using? What kernel wer you running? What graphics card were you using? If you lwould like help to get it right, just ask.

    Try manjaro. use kernel 5.5 amd cards have open sourced drivers that work great. nvidia has really good drivers for linux too but they are closed source.
    After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.
  • thissocalledflower
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    Vyvrhel wrote: »
    It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it.

    Can you link a guide how to set it? I tried it on Debian but only old games like Dota 2 etc. were playable.

    A guide i dont have a link to but i can tell you that you use steam for linux. then open steam for linux go under settings. A pop up box appears and look to the bottom left for the setting for steam play. theres a check box to enable steam play and another check box to select the default proton version for supported games.

    Though for supported games it will use the recommended version of proton for it. Proton is wine with all the configs figured out for you so you dont have to do all that manually - which would be a pain. After that you have to restart steam and then just install the game through steam like normal.

    If you want to use a controller that is ms compatible there's xpadneo that works well also
    After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.
  • remilafo
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    remilafo wrote: »
    Well it's been awhile since i've posted. But I did a performance test recently with latest Wine-Stable and DXVK ver 1.5.4 ..

    I am now getting better performance in linux for ESO compared to Windows 10. About 30FPS more in cities and about 10-15 more FPS in dungeons.

    Just FYI for those of you who might be considering linux.

    But ofcourse hold out for next week, all of this might change.

    any chance you are using an amd card with the free drivers? post the results so we can see them?
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    TempPlayer wrote: »
    What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.

    I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.

    oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.

    What's really useless are claims of magical FPS improvement that cannot possibly be true. Last time I tried running ESO on linux, it was a stuttery mess.

    Oh the stuttering issue. There used to be a memory leak in the earlier releases of DXVK.. That is all fixed now..

    if you are still getting that issues... Try these fixes.. they worked for me back then to solve the issue.

    arch: win64
    description: Adding DLL Overrides
    key: d3dcompiler_47
    name: set_regedit
    path: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\DllOverrides
    value: native

    with winetricks... and

    and try esync
    ....

    okay back up.... What version are you running? steam via proton? standalone via proton? or Standalone via wine..

    This really makes a difference in how the wineprefix is setup..
    Vyvrhel wrote: »
    It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it.

    Can you link a guide how to set it? I tried it on Debian but only old games like Dota 2 etc. were playable.

    I can help here but first

    What version are you running? steam via proton? standalone via proton? or Standalone via wine..

    This really makes a difference in how the wineprefix is setup..
  • majorana
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    Eso is great on linux. It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it. Only drawback to linux i have found is that Tamriel Trade Center wont run in wine so i had set up a virtualbox using my existing windows install and with some directory sharing so i can run the ttc client from the linux location through the virtualbox. i leave it up and running until i get a green update notification then shut down the virtual box. one core with two gigs of ram is sufficient. no need to make a special install of windows if you use your existing. If you need help with it let me know, i'm glad to help.Manjaro has the easiest setup, the latest kernels, and is smooth going. Minion run easily from the command line but you have to use the commercial version of java (still free to d/l and use) as the open jre wont do.

    If you are only using ttc for download (i.e. you not scanning the listings ingame to upload to site) then there is a linux script to do so, it is basically a wget+unzip.
    Though I haven't personally tested it there is also https://github.com/kevinlekiller/eso-linux-launcher
    Edited by majorana on February 20, 2020 4:18AM
  • ZeroXFF
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    @remilafo
    Just tried installing ESO again after your insistence that it works well, and after I switched to manjaro (was on debian before). Now I can't even get it installed. The download in steam finished, so I press play, the installer launches, and when the progress bar reaches 100% it just disappears. When I'm trying to press "play" again, the installation starts over.
  • remilafo
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    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    @remilafo
    Just tried installing ESO again after your insistence that it works well, and after I switched to manjaro (was on debian before). Now I can't even get it installed. The download in steam finished, so I press play, the installer launches, and when the progress bar reaches 100% it just disappears. When I'm trying to press "play" again, the installation starts over.

    let's troubleshoot then..

    In your steam make sure proton is up to date. The latest version is 5.02 from valve... but you can get an even better version from here ... https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases

    Once your game is downloaded before playing it i strongly recommend you take the game files out of the WINEPREFIX and keep them somewhere this will allow you to play with the WINEPREFIX and not accidentally delete or corrupt your game.

    If you want to go the wine route, make sure your wine is up to date and so is your winetricks.

    And lastly get the latest version of DXVK and keep it incase you need to manually install it.

    okay let's go..

    Try proton first and let it do it's thing, make sure your eso is using the correct proton from it's properties in your steam library.

    hopefully it will be that simple, it is for most people, if it's not it is because your system is missing something.

    So if proton fails you can build the WINEPREFIX manually with wine for proton.

    .....

    so locate the COMPARTDATA folder for ESO... wipe out everything in there..

    export WINEPREFIX=/your/eso/compart/data/folder
    winecfg

    install all the extras..
    then
    winetrick vcrun2010
    then
    install dxvk

    now your eso WINEPREFIX should be ready assuming everything else in your system is as well.

    copy the game files back in place... and it should work when you hit play in steam...


    You can also run eso from the command line to engage steam as well..
    I wrote this awhile ago, it is out of date now but will give you enough info to get eso going.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/433344/elder-scroll-online-in-linux-using-proton-or-wine-standalone-or-steam-version/p1

    Good luck
  • ZeroXFF
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    Before you replied, I installed the standalone version via lutris. It works, and it works better than I remember it, but I don't think it works better than on windows. It is however close enough that I would need a side-to-side comparison to be sure... Or a frame time graph (since I can hardly do side-to-side on the same PC), which I do intend to make if I find software that is easy enough to use for that purpose on both linux and windows.

    With the steam version I'll wait until the patch before trying again since I'll have to re-download the game anyways, hopefully then it will work. If not, I'll try the black magic you're suggesting.
  • Lady_Linux
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    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    Before you replied, I installed the standalone version via lutris. It works, and it works better than I remember it, but I don't think it works better than on windows. It is however close enough that I would need a side-to-side comparison to be sure... Or a frame time graph (since I can hardly do side-to-side on the same PC), which I do intend to make if I find software that is easy enough to use for that purpose on both linux and windows.

    With the steam version I'll wait until the patch before trying again since I'll have to re-download the game anyways, hopefully then it will work. If not, I'll try the black magic you're suggesting.

    On manjaro i am using kernel 5.5.5-1 i think it is. I am also on the unstable branch so i get the latest updates. Manjaro unstable is essentially arch stable but since manjaro does a couple few things differently being on unstable can break your system or just parts of it. Arch in general right now is having an issue with glibc and lib32-glibc and it effects chrome based browser lower than version 80 (chromium, chrome, opera, vivalsi, etc). Other than that all is fine on unstable branch. Also if you dont want to switch branches from stable you can just use manjaro-settings-manager to help you install the kernel. Newer kernel is better for your gaming experience....
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • pod88kk
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    I'm just here for the wine
  • remilafo
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    running Mint 19.3 myself... really good imo.

  • ZeroXFF
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    Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.

    Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.

    The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.

    I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.

    I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?
  • remilafo
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    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.

    Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.

    The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.

    I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.

    I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?

    im still downloading the new update myself..

    Based on what you said i suspect you actually don't have wine installed properly only the components needed for proton. Which means manual creation of wineprefixes is not gonna work.

    I will write you a script a bit later.. you will have to interpret it according to your system but it will properly create a eso working wine bottle.
  • Lady_Linux
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    i left the launcher open when i went to bed and when i woke up the download was there and ready to play. performance in dungeons is awful quite often but the game did download. i use steam on linux.
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • Lady_Linux
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    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.

    Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.

    The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.

    I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.

    I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?

    if you are using steam, it does all the setup for you and you have no need to do any of those things. if you do all those things to steam it would likely see something as wrong and start all over, just as it has for you.

    Delete your steam folder and start over. No fancy tricks are needed like for lutris. Let steam do what steam does and you will be just wonderful.
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • remilafo
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    okay my boys are giving me a bit of down time.

    From a fresh system install ... and i mean linux mint 19.3 for example...

    - install f audio system for wine https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192
    - install wine properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Download
    - install winetrick properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
    - install steam
    - using your steam library install eso... this will download the game files. Locate and identify the directory where these files are.. make a backup of them incase things goto ***.
    - get the latest version of proton and a good one... https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
    - follow those instruction on how to get your steam to use it.
    - restart your steam.. attempt to launch eso... it really really should work..
    - if it didn't locate the compartdata folder for eso AKA the wineprefix.. obtain that directory path.. Hard delete everything in there..
    - download dxvk for later https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

    from the terminal... * we are going to create the wineprefix for eso manually * agree to install all the extras like MONO
    export WINEPREFIX=/path/to/eso/wineprefix
    winecfg
    winetricks vcrun2010
    ./setup_dxvk.sh install

    quit the terminal
    head back into steam and launch ESO... this for sure works in linux 19.3 .. I did it today at my work computer for eso..

    if it is still not working.. Ii can only say it is something with manjaro having a different base than ubuntu/mint etc. you were using manjaro right ?

    PS* ESO is an easy game to get going via proton or wine or lutris on linux for some time now. It really has not been problematic at all. Compared to some other games out there that require specialised wineprefixes to just BARELY work. ESO just works with the defaults.
    Edited by remilafo on February 25, 2020 12:32AM
  • Ermiq
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    @ZeroXFF
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.

    Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.

    The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.

    I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.

    I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?

    The installer doesn't work with Proton 5.0.3, but it works with 4.11-12.

    I've done complete reinstall of non-Steam ESO on Fedora 31 with Steam/Proton today.

    What I do for Non-Steam ESO:

    1. Download the installer ("Install_ESO.exe" from the site)
    2. Add it to Steam library as a non-Steam game.
    3. With Proton 5.0.3 the installer reaches 100% loading and then disappears. You need to run it with Proton 4.11-12, it should run fine then.
    4. In the installer choose the directory for the game installation.
    5. The installer will install the launcher.
    6. Add the launcher to Steam as a non-Steam game, and you can run it with Proton 5.0.3.
    7. The launcher downloads the game.
    8. ???
    9. Profit.

    Don't forget that every Proton version should be downloaded and initialized by some other real Steam game first. Otherwise you want be able to run non-Steam games with that version of Proton. Non-Steam games are not able to setup Proton, but once you have it setup, you can launch non-Steam games then.

    By the way. I have no Wine installed separately, it's just Steam with activated Proton in settings->SteamPlay. No additional actions required for ESO.
    Edited by Ermiq on February 25, 2020 1:09AM
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  • ZeroXFF
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.

    Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.

    The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.

    I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.

    I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?

    if you are using steam, it does all the setup for you and you have no need to do any of those things. if you do all those things to steam it would likely see something as wrong and start all over, just as it has for you.

    Delete your steam folder and start over. No fancy tricks are needed like for lutris. Let steam do what steam does and you will be just wonderful.

    I tried steam before I did anything else. Now I deleted the prefix that is used for ESO and let it recreate it from scratch. No change.
  • ZeroXFF
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    remilafo wrote: »
    okay my boys are giving me a bit of down time.

    From a fresh system install ... and i mean linux mint 19.3 for example...

    - install f audio system for wine https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192
    - install wine properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Download
    - install winetrick properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
    - install steam
    - using your steam library install eso... this will download the game files. Locate and identify the directory where these files are.. make a backup of them incase things goto ***.
    - get the latest version of proton and a good one... https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
    - follow those instruction on how to get your steam to use it.
    - restart your steam.. attempt to launch eso... it really really should work..
    - if it didn't locate the compartdata folder for eso AKA the wineprefix.. obtain that directory path.. Hard delete everything in there..
    - download dxvk for later https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

    from the terminal... * we are going to create the wineprefix for eso manually * agree to install all the extras like MONO
    export WINEPREFIX=/path/to/eso/wineprefix
    winecfg
    winetricks vcrun2010
    ./setup_dxvk.sh install

    quit the terminal
    head back into steam and launch ESO... this for sure works in linux 19.3 .. I did it today at my work computer for eso..

    if it is still not working.. Ii can only say it is something with manjaro having a different base than ubuntu/mint etc. you were using manjaro right ?

    PS* ESO is an easy game to get going via proton or wine or lutris on linux for some time now. It really has not been problematic at all. Compared to some other games out there that require specialised wineprefixes to just BARELY work. ESO just works with the defaults.

    None of that worked either. It just keeps crashing after the installer reaches 100%. I think it's the moment it's supposed to start the launcher, but something goes wrong.
  • remilafo
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    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    okay my boys are giving me a bit of down time.

    From a fresh system install ... and i mean linux mint 19.3 for example...

    - install f audio system for wine https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192
    - install wine properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Download
    - install winetrick properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
    - install steam
    - using your steam library install eso... this will download the game files. Locate and identify the directory where these files are.. make a backup of them incase things goto ***.
    - get the latest version of proton and a good one... https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
    - follow those instruction on how to get your steam to use it.
    - restart your steam.. attempt to launch eso... it really really should work..
    - if it didn't locate the compartdata folder for eso AKA the wineprefix.. obtain that directory path.. Hard delete everything in there..
    - download dxvk for later https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases

    from the terminal... * we are going to create the wineprefix for eso manually * agree to install all the extras like MONO
    export WINEPREFIX=/path/to/eso/wineprefix
    winecfg
    winetricks vcrun2010
    ./setup_dxvk.sh install

    quit the terminal
    head back into steam and launch ESO... this for sure works in linux 19.3 .. I did it today at my work computer for eso..

    if it is still not working.. Ii can only say it is something with manjaro having a different base than ubuntu/mint etc. you were using manjaro right ?

    PS* ESO is an easy game to get going via proton or wine or lutris on linux for some time now. It really has not been problematic at all. Compared to some other games out there that require specialised wineprefixes to just BARELY work. ESO just works with the defaults.

    None of that worked either. It just keeps crashing after the installer reaches 100%. I think it's the moment it's supposed to start the launcher, but something goes wrong.

    sucks man.. I don't know what to tell you.. try a different distro... try lutris....

    Eso is typically a issue free one to run...
  • ZeroXFF
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    Ermiq wrote: »
    @ZeroXFF
    ZeroXFF wrote: »
    Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.

    Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.

    The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.

    I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.

    I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?

    The installer doesn't work with Proton 5.0.3, but it works with 4.11-12.

    I've done complete reinstall of non-Steam ESO on Fedora 31 with Steam/Proton today.

    What I do for Non-Steam ESO:

    1. Download the installer ("Install_ESO.exe" from the site)
    2. Add it to Steam library as a non-Steam game.
    3. With Proton 5.0.3 the installer reaches 100% loading and then disappears. You need to run it with Proton 4.11-12, it should run fine then.
    4. In the installer choose the directory for the game installation.
    5. The installer will install the launcher.
    6. Add the launcher to Steam as a non-Steam game, and you can run it with Proton 5.0.3.
    7. The launcher downloads the game.
    8. ???
    9. Profit.

    Don't forget that every Proton version should be downloaded and initialized by some other real Steam game first. Otherwise you want be able to run non-Steam games with that version of Proton. Non-Steam games are not able to setup Proton, but once you have it setup, you can launch non-Steam games then.

    By the way. I have no Wine installed separately, it's just Steam with activated Proton in settings->SteamPlay. No additional actions required for ESO.

    I got the non-steam version to run via lutris just out of the box, no meddling with settings or anything. What I'm trying to do though, is run the proper steam version, and that doesn't work.

    And yeah, I've tried 4.11-12 and even 3.7-8, the result is the same with all these versions.
  • ZeroXFF
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    I guess I'll just give up with steam and move the standalone lutris version to the SSD instead.

    But I'm still not done... Did anyone manage to get TTC to run? Mono doesn't help at all, and after "winetricks dotnet452" I'm still getting errors...
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