Well it's been awhile since i've posted. But I did a performance test recently with latest Wine-Stable and DXVK ver 1.5.4 ..
I am now getting better performance in linux for ESO compared to Windows 10. About 30FPS more in cities and about 10-15 more FPS in dungeons.
Just FYI for those of you who might be considering linux.
But ofcourse hold out for next week, all of this might change.
TempPlayer wrote: »What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.
I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.
thissocalledflower wrote: »Eso is great on linux. It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it. Only drawback to linux i have found is that Tamriel Trade Center wont run in wine so i had set up a virtualbox using my existing windows install and with some directory sharing so i can run the ttc client from the linux location through the virtualbox. i leave it up and running until i get a green update notification then shut down the virtual box. one core with two gigs of ram is sufficient. no need to make a special install of windows if you use your existing. If you need help with it let me know, i'm glad to help.Manjaro has the easiest setup, the latest kernels, and is smooth going. Minion run easily from the command line but you have to use the commercial version of java (still free to d/l and use) as the open jre wont do.
TempPlayer wrote: »What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.
I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.
oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.
thissocalledflower wrote: »It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it.
TempPlayer wrote: »What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.
I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.
oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.
What's really useless are claims of magical FPS improvement that cannot possibly be true. Last time I tried running ESO on linux, it was a stuttery mess.
thissocalledflower wrote: »It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it.
Can you link a guide how to set it? I tried it on Debian but only old games like Dota 2 etc. were playable.
thissocalledflower wrote: »Well it's been awhile since i've posted. But I did a performance test recently with latest Wine-Stable and DXVK ver 1.5.4 ..
I am now getting better performance in linux for ESO compared to Windows 10. About 30FPS more in cities and about 10-15 more FPS in dungeons.
Just FYI for those of you who might be considering linux.
But ofcourse hold out for next week, all of this might change.
any chance you are using an amd card with the free drivers? post the results so we can see them?
TempPlayer wrote: »What GPU were you using? Thinking about switching to Linux as well cause the uncontrollable Windows scan and upgrade is down right awful.
I have a rather old CPU i7-4820K , 32GB ram GPU NV 1080ti (so pretty good) ... Running Linux Mint 19.3I highly doubt that you would get such an improvement simply for running it on Linux. If there is this much of a difference, you either forgot some setting, or some parts of the game are simply not rendering. The driver (or something else) might also just ignore some settings or effects (like for example anti-aliasing, shadows or some particle effects). And since shadows are the only setting in the game that makes any noticeable difference for the FPS, that would be my bet.
oh geez, what a useless post.. Your opinion doesn't matter and you don't have to believe me either. Go try it yourself.
What's really useless are claims of magical FPS improvement that cannot possibly be true. Last time I tried running ESO on linux, it was a stuttery mess.
thissocalledflower wrote: »It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it.
Can you link a guide how to set it? I tried it on Debian but only old games like Dota 2 etc. were playable.
thissocalledflower wrote: »Eso is great on linux. It's incredibly easy to set up if you are using steam as you only set a few options in steam and they do all the automated setup and you never notice it. Only drawback to linux i have found is that Tamriel Trade Center wont run in wine so i had set up a virtualbox using my existing windows install and with some directory sharing so i can run the ttc client from the linux location through the virtualbox. i leave it up and running until i get a green update notification then shut down the virtual box. one core with two gigs of ram is sufficient. no need to make a special install of windows if you use your existing. If you need help with it let me know, i'm glad to help.Manjaro has the easiest setup, the latest kernels, and is smooth going. Minion run easily from the command line but you have to use the commercial version of java (still free to d/l and use) as the open jre wont do.
@remilafo
Just tried installing ESO again after your insistence that it works well, and after I switched to manjaro (was on debian before). Now I can't even get it installed. The download in steam finished, so I press play, the installer launches, and when the progress bar reaches 100% it just disappears. When I'm trying to press "play" again, the installation starts over.
Before you replied, I installed the standalone version via lutris. It works, and it works better than I remember it, but I don't think it works better than on windows. It is however close enough that I would need a side-to-side comparison to be sure... Or a frame time graph (since I can hardly do side-to-side on the same PC), which I do intend to make if I find software that is easy enough to use for that purpose on both linux and windows.
With the steam version I'll wait until the patch before trying again since I'll have to re-download the game anyways, hopefully then it will work. If not, I'll try the black magic you're suggesting.
Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.
Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.
The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.
I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.
I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?
Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.
Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.
The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.
I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.
I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?
Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.
Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.
The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.
I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.
I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?
Lady_Linux wrote: »Ok, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.
Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.
The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.
I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.
I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?
if you are using steam, it does all the setup for you and you have no need to do any of those things. if you do all those things to steam it would likely see something as wrong and start all over, just as it has for you.
Delete your steam folder and start over. No fancy tricks are needed like for lutris. Let steam do what steam does and you will be just wonderful.
okay my boys are giving me a bit of down time.
From a fresh system install ... and i mean linux mint 19.3 for example...
- install f audio system for wine https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192
- install wine properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Download
- install winetrick properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
- install steam
- using your steam library install eso... this will download the game files. Locate and identify the directory where these files are.. make a backup of them incase things goto ***.
- get the latest version of proton and a good one... https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
- follow those instruction on how to get your steam to use it.
- restart your steam.. attempt to launch eso... it really really should work..
- if it didn't locate the compartdata folder for eso AKA the wineprefix.. obtain that directory path.. Hard delete everything in there..
- download dxvk for later https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases
from the terminal... * we are going to create the wineprefix for eso manually * agree to install all the extras like MONO
export WINEPREFIX=/path/to/eso/wineprefix
winecfg
winetricks vcrun2010
./setup_dxvk.sh install
quit the terminal
head back into steam and launch ESO... this for sure works in linux 19.3 .. I did it today at my work computer for eso..
if it is still not working.. Ii can only say it is something with manjaro having a different base than ubuntu/mint etc. you were using manjaro right ?
PS* ESO is an easy game to get going via proton or wine or lutris on linux for some time now. It really has not been problematic at all. Compared to some other games out there that require specialised wineprefixes to just BARELY work. ESO just works with the defaults.
okay my boys are giving me a bit of down time.
From a fresh system install ... and i mean linux mint 19.3 for example...
- install f audio system for wine https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192
- install wine properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Download
- install winetrick properly https://wiki.winehq.org/Winetricks
- install steam
- using your steam library install eso... this will download the game files. Locate and identify the directory where these files are.. make a backup of them incase things goto ***.
- get the latest version of proton and a good one... https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom/releases
- follow those instruction on how to get your steam to use it.
- restart your steam.. attempt to launch eso... it really really should work..
- if it didn't locate the compartdata folder for eso AKA the wineprefix.. obtain that directory path.. Hard delete everything in there..
- download dxvk for later https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases
from the terminal... * we are going to create the wineprefix for eso manually * agree to install all the extras like MONO
export WINEPREFIX=/path/to/eso/wineprefix
winecfg
winetricks vcrun2010
./setup_dxvk.sh install
quit the terminal
head back into steam and launch ESO... this for sure works in linux 19.3 .. I did it today at my work computer for eso..
if it is still not working.. Ii can only say it is something with manjaro having a different base than ubuntu/mint etc. you were using manjaro right ?
PS* ESO is an easy game to get going via proton or wine or lutris on linux for some time now. It really has not been problematic at all. Compared to some other games out there that require specialised wineprefixes to just BARELY work. ESO just works with the defaults.
None of that worked either. It just keeps crashing after the installer reaches 100%. I think it's the moment it's supposed to start the launcher, but something goes wrong.
@ZeroXFFOk, so the redownload after the patch didn't fix the steam version, it behaves exactly the same. The installer (not the launcher) reaches 100% and disappears into oblivion.
Proton version in steam is 5.0-3.
The compatdata folder has nothing of value in there yet, all of the ESO files are in steamapps/common/Zenimax Online.
I did winecfg in that prefix, winetricks vcrun2010 and winetricks dxvk. When I press play, it just starts over with the installation process as if I did nothing.
I also don't know what you mean by "all the extras"?
The installer doesn't work with Proton 5.0.3, but it works with 4.11-12.
I've done complete reinstall of non-Steam ESO on Fedora 31 with Steam/Proton today.
What I do for Non-Steam ESO:
1. Download the installer ("Install_ESO.exe" from the site)
2. Add it to Steam library as a non-Steam game.
3. With Proton 5.0.3 the installer reaches 100% loading and then disappears. You need to run it with Proton 4.11-12, it should run fine then.
4. In the installer choose the directory for the game installation.
5. The installer will install the launcher.
6. Add the launcher to Steam as a non-Steam game, and you can run it with Proton 5.0.3.
7. The launcher downloads the game.
8. ???
9. Profit.
Don't forget that every Proton version should be downloaded and initialized by some other real Steam game first. Otherwise you want be able to run non-Steam games with that version of Proton. Non-Steam games are not able to setup Proton, but once you have it setup, you can launch non-Steam games then.
By the way. I have no Wine installed separately, it's just Steam with activated Proton in settings->SteamPlay. No additional actions required for ESO.