What is up with noob bullying?

Nifty2g · February 2020

The problem here is severe xp diminishing from more than 2 people and makes grinding hell. The most extreme toxicity comes from grinding or farming

Ive said for years maybe zos should look at these xp caps. People might become friends instead of hating each other

Just imagine you are level 45 almost finished grinding you have 20 minutes left and your friend is the same. And then some level 20 guy who does nothing just follows you and throws caltrops to leech the xp. Nothing else. Because of that it extends the grind time by 40 minutes. The guy doesnt *** me off, the xp going down so much. So perhaps zos may look at it one day but probably not. This type of thing happens regularly and people argue you over it

dazee · February 2020

Skwor wrote: »

Sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.

We really need to bring that philosophy back.

Yes bullying is wrong but after 6000 years of human development that is not going to change, nor the best way to deal with it which is to ignore it when possible or punch the bully in the nose if absolutely necessary (ignoring it is still the best option though).

Life is *** enough. Games should be fair and bullying should not be tolerated by the GMs. a player found to be guilty of bullying others in game should be perma banned on repeat offenses.

Sylvermynx · February 2020

Unfortunately, there's no such thing as "permabanned". Said player will simply buy a new account, dolmen to max CP, and then pick up where s/he left off.

pod88kk · February 2020

We all know that there are players who bought 810cp accounts and are pretending they're OP. I've seen many of them running through vet dungeons doing nothing but now light attacks and blaming healers. There's plenty of low CP players out there who would wreck them.......but in Kaal, I am the low CP wrecker muahahahahaha

Dankulakhan · February 2020

I'm a noob and nobody bullies me. As a matter of fact nobody speaks to me at all...

Floyd_Stash · February 2020

haelene wrote: »

While what they're doing is selfish and repugnant - i'd censor the names immediately. Naming and shaming is against the forum rules and I don't want to see your thread squashed for it.

naming and shaming being against forum rules is a free ticket for all the people ruining your day.. to ruin your day without consequences.

mocap · February 2020

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Grimm13 · February 2020

eleussinkb16_ESO wrote: »

haelene wrote: »

While what they're doing is selfish and repugnant - i'd censor the names immediately. Naming and shaming is against the forum rules and I don't want to see your thread squashed for it.

naming and shaming being against forum rules is a free ticket for all the people ruining your day.. to ruin your day without consequences.

An that is what is lending a hand to the decline in player quality within TESO. The level of salt grows as good players tire of constant re-balancing so they move on. It all adds up so a worsening experience.

Chaos2088 · February 2020

ApostateHobo wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

ChunkyCat wrote: »

Out of the way, PECK!

There's a peck here with an acorn pointed at me!

Bloody love that film.

vamp_emily · February 2020

I think the real problem is ESO causes mental illness

1. Long-lasting sadness or irritability
2. Extremely high and low moods
3. Excessive fear, worry, or anxiety
4. Social withdrawal
5. Dramatic changes in eating or sleeping habits

As a result people who have ESO mental illness become cyber bullies.

Waynerx8 · February 2020

Never had this, but should some insecure little fool do this, I would happily start to troll them, they might learn that this is everyones game.

Lady_Linux · February 2020

Minitay wrote: »

I heard from friends that it has been a subject lately, that groups of players bully low level characters for farming in Craglorn.
Didn't really think of it much until a friend got me some live screenshots.

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Do you guys really think that much of Craglorn farming?
Like, is your opinion about atronachs so strong, that you bully low level characters?
The player in question wasn't even a noob. They were a champion trying to level up their healer.
Just saying, some players out there really need to get a grip.

And if you are farming in Craglorn... well, watch out for these guys, I guess.

Edit for naming and shaming.

I like going there and running counterclockwise while most groups run clockwise. i dont even look at chat. Is there a way to just turn chat off completely from the zone and whispers?

Iarao · February 2020

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

so they think they are entitled? sounds about right. i dont give a crap about their timer rotation. if i am out and see someone fighting a large mob, i'm probably gonna jump in. cuz why not? it's alive, i will kill it.

Iarao · February 2020

Iarao wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

so they think they are entitled? sounds about right. i dont give a crap about their timer rotation. if i am out and see someone fighting a large mob, i'm probably gonna jump in. cuz why not? it's alive, i will kill it.

and very simple to fix. put them on ignore and then follow them around :P

Iarao · February 2020

ZonasArch wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

People get super protective of their Spellscar XP. When my friend and I were wee noobs we didnt know what anything was or meant, we were just simple questers exploring, trying to kill anything we saw. Got insulted to hell and back for leeching, without ever understanding what it was. People get themselves into a mindset where they assume the worst intentions in people. Any community will have its idiots. I'd delight in the fact that their willingness to explain anything to you means that they keep having their farm *** up.

I very diligently annoy these kinds of entitled players. It's an open world zone. Want the experience to yourself? Go to an instance.

Yes, I'm that one butthole of a player that'll "chase ahead" if these entitled jerks rotations just to disrupt then until they leave. They are not gonna bully me into not killing whatever the hell I want, wherever the hell I want.

And if they go aggro on chat, that's when my resolve gets buffed up to impossible degrees.

I hate entitled elitist jerks.

fellow butthole here.

YandereGirlfriend · February 2020

I'd never bad-mouth anyone in ESO even if they deserved it (toxic players just get silently reported) and I certainly do not like the noisily condescending "ESO pro" types out there.

That said, it IS an annoyance if you are peacefully grinding some levels in Spellscar and you have to deal with low-effort players deliberately coming in and siphoning away the XP.

What I mean is: You do the running, you do the pulling, you gather the mobs in one location and do virtually all of the damage... and then the other player comes in and uses, say, Whirlwind once to steal half of the XP.

This happens once: "Okay, maybe they just got here," happens twice: "This is annoying but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt," happens thrice: "This is a pattern and they are doing it on purpose, time to find a new spot and let them grind for themselves."

And it cuts both ways, as I will never run into someone else's wrangled mobs in order to siphon their XP and if my favorite elemental area in Spellscar is already saturated with happy farmers, I will proceed to another area or else delay my grinding for the time being.

TLDR; Be considerate of others.

PrayingSeraph · February 2020

I strongly dislike the entitle attitudes some elitist ESO players have. No one has special rights to the mobs in public areas.

That being said, I wouldn't support banning people for being rude, as long as it doesnt get very offensively hateful. But I strongly oppose such bullying behavour and sense of entitlement. Their behavour is very cringey.

I don't act nice because I have to, but because I want to. I wouldnt want a game where people *have* to be nice. I just wish more prople would choose to be nice.

BackStabeth · February 2020

It seems to me there is a correlation between people behaving when they can be held accountable, and people not behaving with they are afforded anonymity.

Not that this should ever be done because there are a lot of screwed up people who would take advantage of it in the wrong way, but imagine if it was simple to look up everyone's and anyone's physical home address you encountered in game. People would behave very differently, they wouldn't be noob shaming anyone I suspect.

We call ourselves civilized, but the fact is we are not. Being a civilized person would mean we would have no need for laws, there would be no need to ban people from games like ESO. This isn't the case, obviously. There are people who's intent is only to make people feel worse than they do, or to exact punishment upon noobs because someone did it to them. Some people just want to feel that they are special, or elite and will grief noobs because compared to other people of the same level, they are not nearly as good. Whatever the reason someone might have for treating someone new poorly, it's rooted in themselves and has nothing to do with you.

Try to keep in mind, anyone who behaves in an antisocial way, or shames new players, or griefs someone for any reason has serious issues and are not behaving like more normal people. There is something seriously wrong with them. Once you realize this, it's very easy to just simply disregard their attempts to make you feel as bad as they feel about themselves. In fact, I feel pitty for these poor souls, they seem to forever be stuck in this bad place and don't experience any happiness. It has to really suck to be them.