What is up with noob bullying?

Minitay

I heard from friends that it has been a subject lately, that groups of players bully low level characters for farming in Craglorn.
Didn't really think of it much until a friend got me some live screenshots.

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Do you guys really think that much of Craglorn farming?
Like, is your opinion about atronachs so strong, that you bully low level characters?
The player in question wasn't even a noob. They were a champion trying to level up their healer.
Just saying, some players out there really need to get a grip.

And if you are farming in Craglorn... well, watch out for these guys, I guess.

Edit for naming and shaming.

haelene

While what they're doing is selfish and repugnant - i'd censor the names immediately. Naming and shaming is against the forum rules and I don't want to see your thread squashed for it.

ArchMikem

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

Salvas_Aren

Usually i get bullied by noobs, so the universe reverts itself to balance, i think.

Raisin

People get super protective of their Spellscar XP. When my friend and I were wee noobs we didnt know what anything was or meant, we were just simple questers exploring, trying to kill anything we saw. Got insulted to hell and back for leeching, without ever understanding what it was. People get themselves into a mindset where they assume the worst intentions in people. Any community will have its idiots. I'd delight in the fact that their willingness to explain anything to you means that they keep having their farm *** up.

Skwor

Sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.

We really need to bring that philosophy back.

Yes bullying is wrong but after 6000 years of human development that is not going to change, nor the best way to deal with it which is to ignore it when possible or punch the bully in the nose if absolutely necessary (ignoring it is still the best option though).

Hallothiel

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

If this is the case, then these ‘vets’ are truly pathetic. Really need to take a step back, breathe and think about how they act. Idiots.

haelene

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

As a capped player - if they want to farm without interruption they should play a single player game - or go somewhere instanced. They are choosing to farm in a public area where not only are there quests - but also things like skyshards. They do not own craglorn (or any of the other farming spots) and no other player should be required to leave an area because someone is trying to min max xp or loot.

I get that it's annoying to have people mess up your rotation (been there before, for sure), but if you're going to try this kind of thing in a public space, you have no right to complain and certainly no right to be a *** about it. If they would have asked him to join the group or to move on nicely, then I might have been on their side - but this kind of attitude is just repugnant.

Karmanorway

Only noobs bully noobs, because they so desperatley look for someone weaker then them so they finally can feel OP😜

xxthir13enxx

Kinda makes me want to go Trolling for “vets”

zaria

It's repugnant, also I assume this is spellscar.
Tell him to hang on to group and do AoE, if an noob he will not steal many kills.

JobooAGS

When they do that, intentionally troll them. You'll get a laugh from their rage. They cannot do anything about it. They deserve it for being ***. You can always feign ignorance unless you reply.

FierceSam

Some players are emotionally stunted and really should have their chat licences taken away.

There’s no excuse whatsoever for bullying in a game.

ZOS’s standard response of insisting you ‘ignore’ them is not acceptable either.

Starlock

Raisin wrote: »

People get super protective of their Spellscar XP. When my friend and I were wee noobs we didnt know what anything was or meant, we were just simple questers exploring, trying to kill anything we saw. Got insulted to hell and back for leeching, without ever understanding what it was. People get themselves into a mindset where they assume the worst intentions in people. Any community will have its idiots. I'd delight in the fact that their willingness to explain anything to you means that they keep having their farm *** up.

I've had that happen once in an area of the game that wasn't even common "farming" spots. They made incorrect assumptions about why I was there and what I was doing and proceeded to act like jerks towards me.

I responded by then deliberately screwing up their runs for a few minutes before getting back to my usual storytelling and questing.

Skwor wrote: »

Sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.

We really need to bring that philosophy back.

No, we don't. It's a nonsensical lie that utterly trivializes the power of words - which is often far, far more significant than sticks and stones. It is the motto of sociopaths to disregard how their words impact those around them.

Raudgrani

It's just sad, and very stupid if you want the game to flourish. Driving away new players, to what end? I mean, I'm not a very "sensible" person (very easy to anger among other things), but new players are new. A few of them might even already think it IS embarrassing to be new/bad, and haven't played long enough to stick to it no matter what, like a veteran player.

I even "Hello" (especially) low levels, if I happen to run into a dolmen they are fighting or whatever, just to be friendly. And if they undertake something actually a bit challenging (like a world boss or whatever), I let them do the most work - and heal/buff them, and debuff/tank bosses for them. I mean, if I would see someone face a huge bad bully in real life, I wouldn't just stand there and watch them die either!? No one ever complained so far, but I've had a lot of "thanks mate" whispers etc.

This game surely has its issues and up's-and-down's of all kinds, and if we want to play it for yet a couple of years, we should at least try to make people feel welcome. Everything else is just mean and stupid. If you see stuff like this, be sure to let them know it's not OK.

SeaGtGruff

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

So the group that was farming there somehow has more rights than the "randoms" who showed up and "interrupted the group's efficiency"?

What a bunch of self-important, conceited, privileged, and entitled bunch of tools there are playing this game.

SpacemanSpiff1

Bullying isn't limited to noobs.

I had a guy get pissy at me and a friend for fishing in the same hole as him and his friend.

Eventually we deduced this was because of a glitch with the fishing food and the number of people at the fishing spot, but he never explained it and was only insulting. Once we pieced it together we followed them anyway for being a knob.

idk

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

Yes, OP needs to blur out the names of the person they are calling out.

But regardless of what those people were doing there is no excuse for acting like an idiot. Usually 40 year old's living in mom's basement living a pathetic life. I guarantee those fools would shake like scared school children and pee in their pants if they came face to face with some of the players they rebuked like that in game.

Stebarnz

troll them back harder, or if you cant then press ignore, job done.

Cant bully in a game with an ignore button.

essi2

@Minitay Naming and Shaming is against the ToS/ToU, if you want to avoid a strike against your forums account I'd suggest re-upping the image w/o player name(s).

zaria

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

Bullying isn't limited to noobs.

I had a guy get pissy at me and a friend for fishing in the same hole as him and his friend.

Eventually we deduced this was because of a glitch with the fishing food and the number of people at the fishing spot, but he never explained it and was only insulting. Once we pieced it together we followed them anyway for being a knob.

While Khajiit and Argonians fish together in harmony

kargen27

idk wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

Yes, OP needs to blur out the names of the person they are calling out.

But regardless of what those people were doing there is no excuse for acting like an idiot. Usually 40 year old's living in mom's basement living a pathetic life. I guarantee those fools would shake like scared school children and pee in their pants if they came face to face with some of the players they rebuked like that in game.

This is something that has bothered me for a very long time. Why do we always assume everybody's mom has a basement?

Wheresthetea11

I’m assuming the area in question is spellscar. It’s an open area. It’s an online game. People are bound to wander over and start killing enemies. Stick to skyreach if you’re really gonna be that upset when people happen upon the area. Sure you lose a little bit of xp but at least it’s guaranteed. No need to send salty whispers or shame a new player looking to level.

SpacemanSpiff1

zaria wrote: »

While Khajiit and Argonians fish together in harmony

heck yea. ive found some enemy-alliance fishing buddies in Imperial City. good times

xxthir13enxx

kargen27 wrote: »

idk wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

Yes, OP needs to blur out the names of the person they are calling out.

But regardless of what those people were doing there is no excuse for acting like an idiot. Usually 40 year old's living in mom's basement living a pathetic life. I guarantee those fools would shake like scared school children and pee in their pants if they came face to face with some of the players they rebuked like that in game.

This is something that has bothered me for a very long time. Why do we always assume everybody's mom has a basement?

Exactly!!!
The reality is...my mom lives in my upstairs!!!

idk

kargen27 wrote: »

idk wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

Yes, OP needs to blur out the names of the person they are calling out.

But regardless of what those people were doing there is no excuse for acting like an idiot. Usually 40 year old's living in mom's basement living a pathetic life. I guarantee those fools would shake like scared school children and pee in their pants if they came face to face with some of the players they rebuked like that in game.

This is something that has bothered me for a very long time. Why do we always assume everybody's mom has a basement?

lol. Well, it could be the back room above the garage where they still live with their mom. Someplace out of sight because their mom cannot stand them either.

zaria

xxthir13enxx wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

idk wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

Yes, OP needs to blur out the names of the person they are calling out.

But regardless of what those people were doing there is no excuse for acting like an idiot. Usually 40 year old's living in mom's basement living a pathetic life. I guarantee those fools would shake like scared school children and pee in their pants if they came face to face with some of the players they rebuked like that in game.

This is something that has bothered me for a very long time. Why do we always assume everybody's mom has a basement?

Exactly!!!
The reality is...my mom lives in my upstairs!!!

Friend of mine was in the same setting, his mother lived in an upstairs apartment in their large farmhouse.
My mother live in an house without an basement, just an crawlspace below the house.

ArchMikem

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

So the group that was farming there somehow has more rights than the "randoms" who showed up and "interrupted the group's efficiency"?

What a bunch of self-important, conceited, privileged, and entitled bunch of tools there are playing this game.

I never claimed they had more right to the area than others, just explaining the situation going on. I agree with everyone else saying these public areas are for EVERYONE. If the grouped farmers don't like the randoms, they should either throw out an invite and fill them in, or deal with the interrupts.

IndianaJames7

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You should've blurred every gamertag. Mods might pay your post a visit now.

But to shed some insight on why "vets" get like this, especially during an event that creates a desire to farm. Mobs respawn on timers, and when there's a high demand on farming them, players will create a mob pull rotation and everyone will group up and run the rotation together, so as to maximize efficiency in loot drops and xp gained. If a group is running the rotation and then some randoms run up and fight adds ahead of them, that's now thrown the respawn timers out of whack and interrupted the group's efficiency, thus wasting time.

I know low level players aren't expected to know this which is why I personally don't give them crap about it. (I rarely farm to begin with), but just wanted to let you know why level capped players act out like this.

So the group that was farming there somehow has more rights than the "randoms" who showed up and "interrupted the group's efficiency"?

What a bunch of self-important, conceited, privileged, and entitled bunch of tools there are playing this game.

^ all overland is fair game to anyone, no one is entitled to farm mobs or mats without interruption. If you want to grind without interruption go to a private instance (like skyreach).

karekiz

I like going to spellscar etc and pulling mobs away from people while getting surveys. Super fun.

ChunkyCat

Out of the way, PECK!