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Shout in Elder Scrolls Online.
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I think shouts would be good if we got them though, they have the potential to bring a lot of utility to combat and really change it up. id like to see it be more utility. Like unrelenting force as an ultimate, less about damage more about a powerful aoe frontal aoe knock back. With variable cast times based on how long you hold the button to get differing power levels. Instead of morphs we could get new words, which would account for actually haveing to train to learn them.
Tempest sprint as a mobility skill
Aura whisper as an evolution of magelight
(As a nightblade main this would *** me off tbh, but i still think it has a place in the game)
Battle/elemental fury to increase light attack speed/power for a group
Bend will could be fun in pve or imperial city turning adds into allies.
Marked for death as maybe a weapon agnostic response to onslaught, or class agnostic source of major vulnerability.
Honestly depending on how far they wanted to go with it it could be a whole skill line of ultimates that cost more points and cast time depending on how many words you want to use.
Just from a combat mechanics perspective, i would really love to see it. And if they dont add it in the year of skyrim coming off the year of the dragon i cant imagine they ever will get a better oppurtunity.
Great! was what I meant!0 -
SpiderKnight✭✭✭✭✭
✭But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!0 -
xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭This skill line should only be accessible to DKs
Cause I’m currently playing one and closet thing to the word Dragonborn...lol0 -
SpiderKnight wrote: »But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!
No, because others who use screams as mentioned before, have never used or absorbed dragon souls, such as ulfric, okay of years of learning, but they have found an excuse to insert dragons ... they could find it also to insert santa claus with the sled.0 -
cyclonus11✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The Greybeards also use shouts, and their voices are so dangerous that they can't even talk without shaking the ground and causing deadly avalanches. The Greybeards are also in Tamriel IN THIS ERA.1 -
devaneiosonho✭✭✭SpiderKnight wrote: »But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!
What? You don't need dragon souls to unlock shouts. Almost all nords can learn the thu'um, be one of the Tongues. You just need a way to learn, time and patience.2 -
OWLTHEMAD✭✭✭✭SpiderKnight wrote: »But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!
You misunderstand the lore, the dragon souls were how you developed your innate knowledge of the thuum so quickly as a dragon born. You dont need them, it just takes longer without them. Ulfric could shout, because he trained. He was no dragonborn. The greybeards could shout because they trained, they were no dragon born. Lore wise there have always been nordic heroes and other individuals that have trained with greybeards (and some non nord warriors who learned on their own such as ebon warrior who was redguard) to learn this 'aincient nord art.' Its rare but not unheard of.
There is actually nothing in the lore preventing us from learning these skills. In fact, it is stranger at this point that the dragons have been our only exposure to the thuum. The draugr weve dealt with should at least be able too.
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devaneiosonho wrote: »SpiderKnight wrote: »But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!
What? You don't need dragon souls to unlock shouts. Almost all nords can learn the thu'um, be one of the Tongues. You just need a way to learn, time and patience.
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SpiderKnight wrote: »But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!
You misunderstand the lore, the dragon souls were how you developed your innate knowledge of the thuum so quickly as a dragon born. You dont need them, it just takes longer without them. Ulfric could shout, because he trained. He was no dragonborn. The greybeards could shout because they trained, they were no dragon born. Lore wise there have always been nordic heroes and other individuals that have trained with greybeards (and some non nord warriors who learned on their own such as ebon warrior who was redguard) to learn this 'aincient nord art.' Its rare but not unheard of.
There is actually nothing in the lore preventing us from learning these skills. In fact, it is stranger at this point that the dragons have been our only exposure to the thuum. The draugr weve dealt with should at least be able too.
I am happy to see someone agree with what I meant.1 -
OWLTHEMAD✭✭✭✭RefLiberty wrote: »But what would you do with the shout, considering the type of the game it is, and balance vise, you can implement it just as a new skill or ultimate, we already have more cool looking ultimates.
Also, I don't see it as lore firendly, only few mortals were able to learn it through yeras even decades of learning and meditation like graybeard monks, and honestly our characters are not monks living in seculded monastery for years meditating and learning dragon language, we go around and kill stuff.
To be fair we are not ordinary people though; there is even a conversation (or lorebook cant quite recall which) that hypothesises our eventual appearance as nirns way of defending its self against daedric incursion. The book though uses this to explain why we can resurect at wayshrines in the manner that daedra do.1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It took Ulfric around 10 years to learn two shouts from the Greybeards.
I mean, I know ZOS loves implementing grindy questlines, but don't you think that's a little much?10 -
Our Hero, our Hero, claims a warrior's heart
I tell you, I tell you, the Dragonborn comes
With a Voice wielding power of the ancient Nord arts....
"Ancient Nord Arts" the song says it too,
Whether you are a dragonborn or not, and no matter how long it takes to learn them, the draconic language can be learned by anyone. Not quickly, but can be learned by anyone.0 -
VaranisArano wrote: »It took Ulfric around 10 years to learn two shouts from the Greybeards.
I mean, I know ZOS loves implementing grindy questlines, but don't you think that's a little much?
Consider the megascuse they used to insert dragons ...0 -
kamimark✭✭✭✭Sure. Each word should cost at least 12 skill points, and a 3-word shout would be slotted as an ultimate. If the dragons can slap us with a bunch of dumb AOEs from it, we should be able to do the same back… at high cost.
While we're at it, I want the levitation spell back from Morrowind! MagicCarpet in my house is OK, but there's plenty of annoying rocks I should be able to get over. And turn off all those awful invisible walls.
What else is missing from older games?Kitty Rainbow Dash. pick, pick, stab.0 -
OWLTHEMAD✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »It took Ulfric around 10 years to learn two shouts from the Greybeards.
I mean, I know ZOS loves implementing grindy questlines, but don't you think that's a little much?
Annoyingly grindy quest line possibility aside,
The greybeards of ulfrics time barely helped the dragon born learn and wanted to prolong his learning process by sending him to find the words himself, the same greybeards i imagine did just as little for ulfric.
The graybeards of eso era dont necessarily have to share tbeir philosophy on teaching, and who knows maybe good old partysnacks wants to teach us himself.0 -
Whether the graybeards want it or not, it doesn't change that the Nordics have always used shouts, like the draugr you find in tombs, also using shouts to disarm.VaranisArano wrote: »It took Ulfric around 10 years to learn two shouts from the Greybeards.
I mean, I know ZOS loves implementing grindy questlines, but don't you think that's a little much?
Annoyingly grindy quest line possibility aside,
The greybeards of ulfrics time barely helped the dragon born learn and wanted to prolong his learning process by sending him to find the words himself, the same greybeards i imagine did just as little for ulfric.
The graybeards of eso era dont necessarily have to share tbeir philosophy on teaching, and who knows maybe good old partysnacks wants to teach us himself.
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cyclonus11✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sure. Each word should cost at least 12 skill points, and a 3-word shout would be slotted as an ultimate. If the dragons can slap us with a bunch of dumb AOEs from it, we should be able to do the same back… at high cost.
While we're at it, I want the levitation spell back from Morrowind! MagicCarpet in my house is OK, but there's plenty of annoying rocks I should be able to get over. And turn off all those awful invisible walls.
What else is missing from older games?
100% chameleon from Oblivion!1 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lore can always be changed. But, given how many. Many of us as players are just over priced murder hobos. Not wise to give us that type of power.
Last thing we need is pick-pick-shouts.
We as players, no matter what we claim, are not mentally, nor emotionally mature enough to handle this.
I for one already am terrible to altmer and dunmer npcs with BoWoe. Shouts would just furth my abuse towards more npcs.Edited by StormeReigns on February 13, 2020 11:52PM1 -
RefLiberty✭✭✭✭✭
✭StormeReigns wrote: »Lore can always be changed. But, given how many. Many of us as players are just over priced murder hobos. Not wise to give us that type of power.
Last thing we need is pick-pick-shouts.
We as players, no matter what we claim, are not mentally, nor emotionally mature enough to handle this.
I for one already am terrible to altmer and dunmer npcs with BoWoe. Shouts would just furth my abuse towards more npcs.
I can totally agree, besides special elite npc's or dragons, bunch of *** including me fusrodahing a crab is stupid.
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think this kinda falls along with this from Jurassic Park.
“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.”
Shouts might be lore friendly but what would they add to the game? As I see it all they could add is another skill line that would need to be balanced with all the other skill lines. For the lore types that could be a problem because it kinda undermines what the shouts really are. For those that do not care about lore it wouldn't matter what the new skill line was called. It would be just a new skill line.
So why do it?and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."3 -
OWLTHEMAD✭✭✭✭RefLiberty wrote: »StormeReigns wrote: »Lore can always be changed. But, given how many. Many of us as players are just over priced murder hobos. Not wise to give us that type of power.
Last thing we need is pick-pick-shouts.
We as players, no matter what we claim, are not mentally, nor emotionally mature enough to handle this.
I for one already am terrible to altmer and dunmer npcs with BoWoe. Shouts would just furth my abuse towards more npcs.
I can totally agree, besides special elite npc's or dragons, bunch of *** including me fusrodahing a crab is stupid.
Or, just maybe, hear me out you shouting at mudcrabs could be why future generations of greybeards decided to make learning shouts more difficult.
I, for one,would love to see hoards of mudcrabs flying off into oblivion.0 -
NoSoup✭✭✭✭✭I'm all for it. Personally it can be implemented without being too lore breaking but implementing it into the CP system.
It would require a new skill line of ultimates, this would ensure that people could only have 2 shouts in their list of active abilities.
Tie the shouts to CP, you need to allocate x amount of points into this tree to unlock and use this shout.
This is where it gets tricky, but if thought out wisely, it would force you to load certain trees that you normally wouldn't invest that highly into to keep the balanceFormally SirDopey, lost forum account during the great reset.....1 -
SpiderKnight✭✭✭✭✭
✭SpiderKnight wrote: »But you need dragon souls to unlock the dragon shouts.
We can't absorb dragon souls in eso because...
We are not dragonborn.
End of discussion, thanks everyone, bye, mods close thread, quick!
You misunderstand the lore, the dragon souls were how you developed your innate knowledge of the thuum so quickly as a dragon born. You dont need them, it just takes longer without them. Ulfric could shout, because he trained. He was no dragonborn. The greybeards could shout because they trained, they were no dragon born. Lore wise there have always been nordic heroes and other individuals that have trained with greybeards (and some non nord warriors who learned on their own such as ebon warrior who was redguard) to learn this 'aincient nord art.' Its rare but not unheard of.
There is actually nothing in the lore preventing us from learning these skills. In fact, it is stranger at this point that the dragons have been our only exposure to the thuum. The draugr weve dealt with should at least be able too.
I think you're just taking the comment too seriously.0 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only way I can see this be added is by making the dragon shouts be ultimates and the number of words of power you use is dependent on the ultimate you have. For example 100 = one word, 200 = two words, 300 = three words and the icons would change so you'd be able to tell where you are at even without numbers displayed. I also don't think these ultimates should be able to be morphed simply because that doesn't make a lot of sense.
The Greybeards would be a guild skill line only consisting of ultimates and no normal skills. You would progress that skill line by training with the Greybeards in the way of the voice. That we are only able to slot two shouts at max, because there simply isn't enough skill bars for more, represents that us peasants have not made the same investment of a life worth of study of the voice as the Greybeards have, just the same way Ulfric only knows only one shout after ten years of study.
The shouts I'd like to see added if any are:Unrelenting Force- sets enemies off balance
- sets enemies off balance and interrupts casting enemies
- sets enemies off balance, interrupts casting enemies, knocks them far away and deals physical damage
- Dash forward
- Dash forward and automatically dodge while midflight (as if you had used a long dodge roll)
- Dash forward, dodge and knock enemies in the way aside
- Apply the burning status effect and deal fire damage
- Apply burning status effect and deal more fire damage and damage over time
- Apply burning status effect, deal more fire damage and apply multiple of the same damage over time effect (making it harder to cleanse and more devastating if you don't)
- Apply the chilled status effect, slow and deal low ice damage
- Apply chilled, deal low damage, immobilize and stun
- Apply chilled, deal low damage, immobilize, stun, increase enemy's cost of dodgeroll and breakfree
This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.1 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »For non-dragonborn, it takes years to learn just one.
Let's let the things that made our protagonists special in earlier games in the earlier games. My ESO characters are not the Nerevarine; they don't survive corprus and become immune to disease. Similarly, they're not Dragonborn. Let the Dragonborm remain special.
Great post.0 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭mikyfuentes wrote: »Hello everyone, today I would like to talk about a topic that for many is a taboo but for many others it is a dream, the shouts in Elder Scrolls Online. I read many comments that said "No! You're not a dragonborn! This is ESO not Skyrim!" Now I would like to present my thoughts to you: Given and considered that the role of the dragonborn is not to scream, but to definitively kill a dragon by absorbing its soul, yes, learn shouts faster but surely you could insert a way to learn the words, considering that in skyrim used shouts the graybeards, ulfric and if you remember well the draugr in the mounds also used shouts, as well as the heroes north of sovardarde used clear skies in the clash against alduin, without forgetting that dragonrend is learned by watching the ancient north scream through the vision of the elder scroll, and none of them are dragonborn, so learning shouts in Elder Scrolls Online I think it's absolutely lore friendly. Simply for me it would be right to put them in the game.
Give me soultear or drain vitality as a shout and I'm in, actually.0 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I remember one of my friends thinking fire breath was a shout and it took me thirty minutes to explain to them it wasn't. I understand some people want shouts but it'd be out of place for our characters. If you wanna join an RP guild and do a several year long RP learning shouts, go ahead. Sadly the Vestige doesn't seem to want to stay still long enough to learn a single word of a shout. Their current abilities and power already is enough to go toe to toe with Daedric plots, dragons, among other things.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK0 -
MellowMagic✭✭✭✭I feel like the only way "shouts" would be in eso is if the did another race update (prob not gunna happen for a long time) and they added 1 active skill for every race skill line, shouting being the nord active skill. I remember when I started eso a few years ago I was disappointed when "insert race" skills was only passives not any "skills"0 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Fus ro dah would just be a crappy stun. You’d be admiring the shout animation. A dummy would break free and kill you... or block or be running immovables. Wouldn’t be as cool as some folks would imagine...shouting lol.
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Erelah✭✭✭✭The hero is not the dragonborn, but the hero did channel all the powers of Akatosh and kick the tar out of Molag Bal.
What might a mortal be capable of that has once been infused with divine powers?0