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When will Murkmire furniture recipes drop be fixed?
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It is quite fun that not long before Murkmire releaze ZOS admitted that Clockwork furniture recipes drop was broken and fixed it and then they released Murkmire where drop was broken again in the same particular way.
Ill clarify. The problem with Clockwork was in that in most cases instead of Clockwork recipe regular Homestead recipes dropped. Some simptoms were like blue recipes were more coomon then green ones and you could get 2 recipes in a single drop from tables, and they were always both basic homestead ones. Now we face particularly the same simptoms with Murkmire recipes, green ones being more rare and expensive then blue is just ridiculous.
So do we have to wait another year to get a fix on this? (Like it was with Clockwork)
Ill clarify. The problem with Clockwork was in that in most cases instead of Clockwork recipe regular Homestead recipes dropped. Some simptoms were like blue recipes were more coomon then green ones and you could get 2 recipes in a single drop from tables, and they were always both basic homestead ones. Now we face particularly the same simptoms with Murkmire recipes, green ones being more rare and expensive then blue is just ridiculous.
So do we have to wait another year to get a fix on this? (Like it was with Clockwork)
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Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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NeroBad✭✭✭✭How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.1 -
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✭✭✭✭How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.
I agree, it would be good to have new stuff on the writ vendor, including random CWC, Alinor, and Murkmire plans. The point still stands though - with crown gifting sure I can buy furnishings for gold, but from another player who is buying them for crowns - so with gifting, Zenimax benefit MORE from leaving furnishings difficult to learn but on the crown store - because if I pay for them with gold, the person I am buying them from is still buying crowns to pay for them - each thing I buy like that for gold there is IRL $ somewhere in the system going to Zeni to cover that purchase. So the fact that someone can gift them to me for gold is increasing Zeni's income - just not directly from my pocket, but from the pocket of the person who is trading with me.Edited by Epona222 on February 11, 2019 10:55AMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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The rarity of blueprints only serves less than a 1% of the player base (guild traders). Prices on Murkmire blueprints are somwhere between 1.5 - 2M gold for purple and like 500 - 200K for blue ones. That is insane.How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.
The same way I Iearn all the motif styles I also learn Murkmire furnishings. Farmnig them is not fun & boring af (100x log off, log in each day lol).
It would really help to make something similar as they did with Morrowind furnishings (container with random Murkmire blueprints available for writ vouchers).1 -
NeroBad✭✭✭✭How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.
I agree, it would be good to have new stuff on the writ vendor, including random CWC, Alinor, and Murkmire plans. The point still stands though - with crown gifting sure I can buy furnishings for gold, but from another player who is buying them for crowns - so with gifting, Zenimax benefit MORE from leaving furnishings difficult to learn but on the crown store - because if I pay for them with gold, the person I am buying them from is still buying crowns to pay for them - each thing I buy like that for gold there is IRL $ somewhere in the system going to Zeni to cover that purchase. So the fact that someone can gift them to me for gold is increasing Zeni's income - just not directly from my pocket, but from the pocket of the person who is trading with me.
True, but if more then 3 people craft them they will race their price to a point where it is not much higher then the material cost + taxes. Often not the most expensive furniture recipies has the bigger profit margin but the ones that not many craft (I had luck with Redguard pillows for almost a year).
So altough ZOS makes money from such gold buying the amount wouldn't go down in my opinion if the recipies would be more accesable (not super cheap), because if a recipe could be bought around 50k many would buy them and then buy the materials and maybe make 4-5 specific furniture which in total would be more expensive then buying from guild store, but many likes to do their stuff themself then buying from a furniture crafter.0 -
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✭Seems the ideal time to adjust the furnishing plan drop rate and revive Murkmire as a PvE locationGolden Clover AD PvP on PC EU (since 2017) Guildex https://eso.guildex.org/view-guild/17669 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/1312113207951960 -
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✭How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
No other DLC is even remotely close to Murkire green plans. I farm them and regularly sell them for 200-400k/plan, while blue ones go for 5-10k and purple ones go for 20-50k . No other plans from any other DLC has this backwards behavior where most of the green (as in, common) plans are more than four as expensive as the purple plans. Furnishing plans from all other sources are cheapest in green, then blue a bit more expensive, then purple/gold the most expensive ones.
Blue/purple ones are available randomly from the Voucher vendor while the green ones are not, this is the reason the prices are so insane for green ones. Blue/Purple are more in line with other content.Edited by Bucky_13 on February 13, 2020 1:26PM2 -
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✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
The rarity of blueprints only serves less than a 1% of the player base (guild traders). Prices on Murkmire blueprints are somwhere between 1.5 - 2M gold for purple and like 500 - 200K for blue ones. That is insane.How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.
The same way I Iearn all the motif styles I also learn Murkmire furnishings. Farmnig them is not fun & boring af (100x log off, log in each day lol).
It would really help to make something similar as they did with Morrowind furnishings (container with random Murkmire blueprints available for writ vouchers).
Which platform are you on? On PC/EU, Murkmire blue & purple plans are a lot cheaper than those prices. And blue/purple plans ARE available from the Voucher merchant, same system as with CC plans. I've collected them all months ago almost exclusively from vouchers. The green plans are the real issue and the ones that are way too expensive and rare as you can't get those from the voucher vendor.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
The rarity of blueprints only serves less than a 1% of the player base (guild traders). Prices on Murkmire blueprints are somwhere between 1.5 - 2M gold for purple and like 500 - 200K for blue ones. That is insane.How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.
The same way I Iearn all the motif styles I also learn Murkmire furnishings. Farmnig them is not fun & boring af (100x log off, log in each day lol).
It would really help to make something similar as they did with Morrowind furnishings (container with random Murkmire blueprints available for writ vouchers).
Which platform are you on? On PC/EU, Murkmire blue & purple plans are a lot cheaper than those prices. And blue/purple plans ARE available from the Voucher merchant, same system as with CC plans. I've collected them all months ago almost exclusively from vouchers. The green plans are the real issue and the ones that are way too expensive and rare as you can't get those from the voucher vendor.
The green ones sells for a good buck tho
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✭✭Where do they even drop?
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✭✭✭✭✭Cirantille wrote: »Where do they even drop?
In Elsweyr they drop from dragons but I never saw any furnishing piece dropping from bosses in Summerset or Murkmire
Containers and occasionally from NPC if you pickpocket them. I spend around a week pickpocketing NPC´s and looting containers in Murkmire and found 2 green recepies, 2 purple and 2-3 blues.
I personally find it interesting that certain blueprints are more rare than others, makes them very valuable and gives that "rare feeling" that few things have. Wouldn´t mind if things stayed as it is atm, instead of "handing" them out like everything else.2 -
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✭✭Cirantille wrote: »Where do they even drop?
In Elsweyr they drop from dragons but I never saw any furnishing piece dropping from bosses in Summerset or Murkmire
Containers and occasionally from NPC if you pickpocket them. I spend around a week pickpocketing NPC´s and looting containers in Murkmire and found 2 green recepies, 2 purple and 2-3 blues.
I personally find it interesting that certain blueprints are more rare than others, makes them very valuable and gives that "rare feeling" that few things have. Wouldn´t mind if things stayed as it is atm, instead of "handing" them out like everything else.
So need more skills in legerdemain for sure
I want to collect these specific furnishing because they are expensive, housing is expensive!
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✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
The rarity of blueprints only serves less than a 1% of the player base (guild traders). Prices on Murkmire blueprints are somwhere between 1.5 - 2M gold for purple and like 500 - 200K for blue ones. That is insane.How is that a bug? It's been that way in other DLC zones forever, if you think that is something unintentional or a bug that is going to be fixed it is a case of wishful thinking. They want the plans to be rare so that they can sell furnishings from the crown store.
With Gifting many can buy gold for Crowns. And altough most of the recipes are rare there are more then 2-3 people for each furniture piece who selles them is Guild stores (PC/EU atleast), so the rareity is only good for them, because most of the people buy the furnitures from them not from Crown Store.
I really liked what they did with Morrowind recipes, makeing them into the voucher shop, would be good if they make same aproach for all the DLC furniture recipes.
The same way I Iearn all the motif styles I also learn Murkmire furnishings. Farmnig them is not fun & boring af (100x log off, log in each day lol).
It would really help to make something similar as they did with Morrowind furnishings (container with random Murkmire blueprints available for writ vouchers).
Which platform are you on? On PC/EU, Murkmire blue & purple plans are a lot cheaper than those prices. And blue/purple plans ARE available from the Voucher merchant, same system as with CC plans. I've collected them all months ago almost exclusively from vouchers. The green plans are the real issue and the ones that are way too expensive and rare as you can't get those from the voucher vendor.
you necroed a thread that was made before voucher recipe envelopes for murkmire were available.Edited by Linaleah on February 13, 2020 3:18PMdirty worthless casual.
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