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Current State of ESO

Abhaya
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I haven't played the game since the big DOT PVP meta. I am a PVP focused player that is thinking of returning and just had a couple questions. Is the Cyro server performance still atrocious and how has the class balance come along? I remember that ZOS hired a new combat team and they were working on a complete rebalance of just about everything but I didn't stick around to see what happened. For reference I play a stam sorc but don't care if they are the current meta or anything as long as they can compete with other builds and not get steamrolled.
Abhaya - PC NA - Ebonheart Pact
Stam Sorc 2-Hand / Bow Build: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=169103
  • thadjarvis
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    Short version
    Zerg playstlye: always will lag
    Solo/small scale: lag can be avoided if you have a good setup

    I experience lags and de syncs when there’s 100+ players in a small area. If you have to play in massive battles you will likely get that too. If you choose to play on a server other than the most popular it’s mostly your PC/internet that’s the culprit of poor performance.
  • Nanfoodle
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    Big update for performance on the 25th. As of now it's a hit and miss, with some having no problems and others having constant problems.
  • Nanfoodle
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    Will say this. I'm having a blast playing cyrodiil :)
  • BisDasBlutGefriert
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    What gaming device and server do you normally play on?
    ~There’s a positive in every negative. Sometimes the positive is harder to find than other times, but there is ALWAYS one there~
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    The game is in a rough state right now. Cyro performance is horrendous and the combat is bland and stale. I don't recommend it.
  • Nevasca
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    We might see better performance after this PTS, so you might want to check out after this patch.
  • thadjarvis
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    Disagree entirely with those that say performance is poor. The mayhem event stressed PvP load to the max. If you do not play in or near zergs it is your internet/pc that is the problem. Myself and many others I know had zero issues in cyro or IC if it was 50ish or less in an area. Some have problems at 100. Above that ZoS and/or all clients seem to see issues.

    I’d assume as a stamsorc massive zergs isn’t your thing. So it should be good for you
  • SmukkeHeks
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    If you are on the eu server, expect chaos.
  • FierceSam
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    If you already own the game, and you’re primarily interested in PvP, why not come back and play for a bit and make your own mind up?

    Only you will know whether you feel the changes have resulted in a better game for you.

    All I can say is I found the recent Midyear Mayhem to be fun and impressively free from technical troubles. So much so that I’ve spent way more time in Cyrodiil and the IC sewers than I would have imagined possible before.

    Try it. You might like it.
  • redgreensunset
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    thadjarvis wrote: »
    Disagree entirely with those that say performance is poor. The mayhem event stressed PvP load to the max. If you do not play in or near zergs it is your internet/pc that is the problem. Myself and many others I know had zero issues in cyro or IC if it was 50ish or less in an area. Some have problems at 100. Above that ZoS and/or all clients seem to see issues.

    I’d assume as a stamsorc massive zergs isn’t your thing. So it should be good for you

    I disagree. I ended up playing in Cyrodiil a lot during MYM and I've gone back after. During MYM I played in one of the non locked, spun up, 7 days campaigns. I mostly played in mid sized to big groups and at pop lock or near to it, I saw very little in the way of lag or desync of any kind.
    Now I've twice gone back to Cyro in the Standard campaing and it has never been more than two bars for all factions while I were there and yet the lag and desync is ridiculous. Last night I ended up escorting a scroll from one side of the map to the other. There were only four of us, the scroll runner and three bodyguards and we never saw hide nor hair of the enemy, just ran into a couple of overland mobs. And yet the lag was unreal with the battles againts random mobs nearly killing me because skills wouldn't fire and the scroll runner often "teleported" to the horizon because I guess of desync.

    If it was just my rig, then why no lag or desync of note during big battles with 40+ people all firing off skills and stuff in a campaign at pop lock, yet massive lag and desync with four people hiking overland in a campaing nowhere near pop lock?

    Not saying people's equipment or internet doesn't have anything to do with it, just that there's a lot more going on than that and blaming people hardware and connection, and dismissing the issue is frankly disingenuous as hell.
  • Major_Lag
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    Current state of ESO PvP: circling the drain (on PCEU at least).
  • thadjarvis
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    @redgreensunset
    That’s fair. I’ve been away and haven’t been back to cyro since the event. So, maybe they did a good job server side resources for the event and then went back to below bare minimum.

    My group of 6 consistent PvPers prior to the event didn’t see issues (avoiding the popular campaign) except one friend whom has below minimum system requirements. But then we never really had much more than 20 players in an area. ZoS could have adjusted resources from ok pre event, to good for event, to poor post event

    From your experience it’s seems the code works ok now but they aren’t providing enough server resources outside of event.

    Note during the events trial performance issues seem to spike. So, it does seem likely it’s a server resource issue (cheap)
    Edited by thadjarvis on February 9, 2020 10:32AM
  • YstradClud
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    Wondering the same thing. I'm in Australia and left ESO for WoW due to better ping but WoW seems to be going down the Esports route.
    |Pascweten| Breton Templar PC NA
    |Ceaulin| Bosmer Templar Xbox NA

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  • TheFM
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    Cyro performance is so bad on pc eu right now I am expecting to see something in the news about the data center exploding. Otherwise its fun. Balance is a mess atm tho, stamnecro, templar and warden are all top dogs atm with high burst and high survivability, stamblade is ok, magblade is suffering a bit . I found the cast time to be a non issue tbh tho with the ulti after testing it, still hits people from stealth no problem.
  • barney2525
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    current state of ESO for me is Missouri


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  • redgreensunset
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    thadjarvis wrote: »
    @redgreensunset
    That’s fair. I’ve been away and haven’t been back to cyro since the event. So, maybe they did a good job server side resources for the event and then went back to below bare minimum.

    My group of 6 consistent PvPers prior to the event didn’t see issues (avoiding the popular campaign) except one friend whom has below minimum system requirements. But then we never really had much more than 20 players in an area. ZoS could have adjusted resources from ok pre event, to good for event, to poor post event

    From your experience it’s seems the code works ok now but they aren’t providing enough server resources outside of event.

    Note during the events trial performance issues seem to spike. So, it does seem likely it’s a server resource issue (cheap)

    Yeah idk what's going on. I was surprised at how well Cyrodiil worked during the event, but then I hadn't really been there before except once in Standard to do some delves. But I enjoyed the place so much during the event that I decided to head back after it ended, but those two times in there have been plagued by some "what the actual ****" moments when it comes to performance.

    Apart from the very weird (and bad) performance I'm still enjoying myself. Gonna see if I can make some steady friends in there as I'm not good at running solo and I find it kinda boring too. Then keep my fingers crossed that the U25 update gives the performance betterment they're promising.
  • Megatto
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    If you don't like the game, leave
    Remove loot boxes or riot
  • sproattt
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    Xbox EU been uplayable for the past 4 days, in cyro specifically you are fine out of combat; you step into combat the lag and delay begins.

    I would advise waiting until further notice and not lose your anticipation for ESO, you'll be disappointed.
    Stamblade Main.
  • TheFM
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    Megatto wrote: »
    If you don't like the game, leave

    And with that attitude nothing would ever get fixed.

    The car you bought has no tires? Buy a new one!
  • jadarock
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    sproattt wrote: »
    Xbox EU been uplayable for the past 4 days, in cyro specifically you are fine out of combat; you step into combat the lag and delay begins.

    I would advise waiting until further notice and not lose your anticipation for ESO, you'll be disappointed.

    Xbox na has been unplayable for me since that small maintenance earlier in the week. I uninstalled yesterday going to reinstall shortly to see if it helps at all.... if not I have no choice but to shelve the game. Skills arent firing like they should It shouldn't take me 10 mins to clear a flag that my stamblade would normally shred through in 2

    The 50 mb maintenance broke something on xbox because cyrodill combat has been unplayable ever since
  • TheFM
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    jadarock wrote: »
    sproattt wrote: »
    Xbox EU been uplayable for the past 4 days, in cyro specifically you are fine out of combat; you step into combat the lag and delay begins.

    I would advise waiting until further notice and not lose your anticipation for ESO, you'll be disappointed.

    Xbox na has been unplayable for me since that small maintenance earlier in the week. I uninstalled yesterday going to reinstall shortly to see if it helps at all.... if not I have no choice but to shelve the game. Skills arent firing like they should It shouldn't take me 10 mins to clear a flag that my stamblade would normally shred through in 2

    The 50 mb maintenance broke something on xbox because cyrodill combat has been unplayable ever since

    Its the exact same thing for pc eu too, absolute mess atm. Ive resorted to playing a magblade atm cuz at least i know the lag starts on my terms.
  • gatekeeper13
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    In hours with high activity, performance is atrocious. You have a high chance of getting disconnected at every siege. xD
  • Anotherone773
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    Abhaya wrote: »
    I haven't played the game since the big DOT PVP meta. I am a PVP focused player that is thinking of returning and just had a couple questions. Is the Cyro server performance still atrocious and how has the class balance come along? I remember that ZOS hired a new combat team and they were working on a complete rebalance of just about everything but I didn't stick around to see what happened. For reference I play a stam sorc but don't care if they are the current meta or anything as long as they can compete with other builds and not get steamrolled.

    They are focusing on a variety of performance upgrades this year, including a smaller game and patch size. We will all have to re download the game here soon. Performance wise, on PC NA, i do fine on a good( not gaming) newer computer on high settings. Every once in a while i get a bit of that "ghost" lag, but its not bad. I dont run in zergs or try to play on 4k ultra though. So performance is going to be heavily dependent on playstyle,settings, and hardware.

    They are balancing butchering classes right now. The meta players are have a coronary, some had to be resuscitated. The casuals are in a state of confusion, wandering around aimlessly like soul shriven. If you can handle drastic class changes all year, you might be ok.

    Steamrolling in Cyro is all about " My zerg is bigger than your zerg!" is it not? They fixed BGs. Now everyone must enter solo... It is to promote group play, you know like in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.
  • TheFM
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    Abhaya wrote: »
    I haven't played the game since the big DOT PVP meta. I am a PVP focused player that is thinking of returning and just had a couple questions. Is the Cyro server performance still atrocious and how has the class balance come along? I remember that ZOS hired a new combat team and they were working on a complete rebalance of just about everything but I didn't stick around to see what happened. For reference I play a stam sorc but don't care if they are the current meta or anything as long as they can compete with other builds and not get steamrolled.

    They are focusing on a variety of performance upgrades this year, including a smaller game and patch size. We will all have to re download the game here soon. Performance wise, on PC NA, i do fine on a good( not gaming) newer computer on high settings. Every once in a while i get a bit of that "ghost" lag, but its not bad. I dont run in zergs or try to play on 4k ultra though. So performance is going to be heavily dependent on playstyle,settings, and hardware.

    They are balancing butchering classes right now. The meta players are have a coronary, some had to be resuscitated. The casuals are in a state of confusion, wandering around aimlessly like soul shriven. If you can handle drastic class changes all year, you might be ok.

    Steamrolling in Cyro is all about " My zerg is bigger than your zerg!" is it not? They fixed BGs. Now everyone must enter solo... It is to promote group play, you know like in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

    Even if pc na is "okay" i still see streamers constantly complaining and rightfully so that the game is unresponsive laggy and buggy lately, even more than usual. And PC EU is just in a sad state, the irony is that PC EU seems to have a higher population, and there is 0 attention being given to the servers here.
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    I have been in combat since the first era... :joy:
  • Anotherone773
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    TheFM wrote: »
    Abhaya wrote: »
    I haven't played the game since the big DOT PVP meta. I am a PVP focused player that is thinking of returning and just had a couple questions. Is the Cyro server performance still atrocious and how has the class balance come along? I remember that ZOS hired a new combat team and they were working on a complete rebalance of just about everything but I didn't stick around to see what happened. For reference I play a stam sorc but don't care if they are the current meta or anything as long as they can compete with other builds and not get steamrolled.

    They are focusing on a variety of performance upgrades this year, including a smaller game and patch size. We will all have to re download the game here soon. Performance wise, on PC NA, i do fine on a good( not gaming) newer computer on high settings. Every once in a while i get a bit of that "ghost" lag, but its not bad. I dont run in zergs or try to play on 4k ultra though. So performance is going to be heavily dependent on playstyle,settings, and hardware.

    They are balancing butchering classes right now. The meta players are have a coronary, some had to be resuscitated. The casuals are in a state of confusion, wandering around aimlessly like soul shriven. If you can handle drastic class changes all year, you might be ok.

    Steamrolling in Cyro is all about " My zerg is bigger than your zerg!" is it not? They fixed BGs. Now everyone must enter solo... It is to promote group play, you know like in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

    Even if pc na is "okay" i still see streamers constantly complaining and rightfully so that the game is unresponsive laggy and buggy lately, even more than usual. And PC EU is just in a sad state, the irony is that PC EU seems to have a higher population, and there is 0 attention being given to the servers here.

    That is because they are streaming and playing at the same time, typically on high settings so the game "looks good". Streaming requires video compression. Video compression requires the same resources as ESO and is just as heavy. To do both at the same time they either need to play ESO at much lower settings OR use a very high end well balanced machine that is going to cost north of $2k.

    I agree with you on PC EU. ZOS needs to do a better job at meeting demand for their game in the EU before they start to get a really bad rep over there. What they really need to do is create a third mega server maybe in Korea where the internet infrastructure is highly developed. That would really help the Oceanic peeps. But its not horrible to play across the pond either. I ping for 150-200 on the EU server from the middle of the US.
  • rexagamemnon
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    Performance is better than what it used to.
  • Wrekkedd
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    Abhaya wrote: »
    I haven't played the game since the big DOT PVP meta. I am a PVP focused player that is thinking of returning and just had a couple questions. Is the Cyro server performance still atrocious and how has the class balance come along? I remember that ZOS hired a new combat team and they were working on a complete rebalance of just about everything but I didn't stick around to see what happened. For reference I play a stam sorc but don't care if they are the current meta or anything as long as they can compete with other builds and not get steamrolled.

    The game is the most boring it has ever been, classes barely feel different enough. Templars are overloaded and it has become more apparent since most of the other classes feel the same. I wouldn't bother coming back honestly.
  • jadarock
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    Performance is better than what it used to.

    Of the crown store??
  • Kalante
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    Console is ***t
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