Seems fair to PvP people that are only getting 50 a month, while pve people will get many many more, spread out through the days (I get 5-10 everyday I do daily pledges, for example. On the lower end, with 5a day, with day on day off, it's 75 in a month...). So you can do like I do and keep getting both sides... Win win, easy.

bmnoble wrote: »

To be fair the traits of your gear don't matter as much in PVE, you can easily get away with having mixed trait gear, while in PVP you basically have to make everything Impen at some point to be competitive.

That's not true mate. Wrong traits in PVE means that you will underperform. Not sturdy body parts for tank? Will not be able to block after a while. No infused for destro? Lower Crusher uptime and strength. Not divines for DD? Lower DPS.

I am talking about challenging content ofc, not fighting easy dungeons. If you want to actually perform in trials or tough dungeons, you will need all your equipment to have the right trait.

Somber97866 wrote: »

Seems kind of one sided. What do you all think? Do you think that this is fair and balanced? I personally don't.
It's so easy to get to tier one and to be honest I think it's harder to get on the leaderboards and it is to get to tier one.

I figure that the ease of completing the Tier 1 requirements is by design, because it provides an incentive for PvErs to go into Cyrodiil in order to chase transmutes. Also, it offsets another imbalance because PvPrs, on average, are going to require more transmutes (again, on average) due to the majority of players choosing the impen trait for their gear, so it eases the pain of trait farming.

Even without the second condition in play, providing the incentive to PvErs is an important mechanic to ZOS, because it broadens the game play of a large part of their base. I've been on a journey over the past year, going from "I hate PvP" to "PvP is awesome and fun" because farming transmutes kept me trying Cyrodiil until I got decent enough to be noticed and picked up by a small and really cool PvP guild who was looking for my skillset. At that point, they really opened my eyes to how PvP is not only fun, but also a challenging and interesting gametype that exists in the same world.

I now run a weekly event in my social/trials guild to take PvErs into Cyrodiil to farm transmutes as a group, and I am observing many of them evolving their play and starting to express an interest in gathering gear and skills that will better equip them in Cyrodiil, further deepening their skillsets and overall enjoyment of the game. I do this because I want to mitigate the sense of intimidation and the frustrations that I felt myself when I first started going to Cyro for other PvE players because I know from personal experience that the fun and satisfaction that you get out of contributing to a well-functioning PvP group is at least equivalent to that gained from clearing challenging endgame content. When we actually capture/defend a hard fought keep or emerge victorious in a fair fight, they celebrate as if we'd cleared vDSA for the first time. They also die and get ganked enough to start developing a thicker skin and reframe the experience as something to learn from rather than feeling bullied. Ultimately, the sense of accomplishment we get from winning a live battle against other players is quite different than the sense we get from mastering the ballet of scripted mechanics, and some players end up appreciating it enough to start chasing both.

I've also run PvE content with PvP groups, always to farm particular sets of gear. They usually complain about how much they hate PvE on discord and how much it sucks to have to PvE to farm gear, but when they run into something that they can't do, they end up having fun when they beat it despite themselves, although I know none of them would admit it on this forum.

So, yes, I think it's fair and balanced. But even if it were not fair, I would still argue that it was necessary in order to continue to promote the cross pollination that ultimately maintains the health of this game, and furthermore challenges the active and competitive subsets of the PvE player base to be more open to all of the experiences available to them in ESO.

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

I'd never done this before -- didn't even know how it worked -- but just for the heck of it I ran all 18 characters up to Tier 1 during the event, including one I created for my 18th slot just yesterday.

Now I have to figure out what to transmute.

You can always transmute crap weapons to nirn, deconstruct, and sell that. There are going for 25k on PC NA these days...

... with about 1 chance in 3 to get the nirncrux on breakdown.

I like to think of 50 transmute crystals as worth more than 8Kish gold. If nothing else, I'll transmute some of my bad-trait monster shoulders first. And helms too; while I've bought a bunch of monster helms at The Golden, I don't generally have them in off-weight, and I have enough Undaunted 9+ characters that I could use some of those.

And while I've already transmuted a bunch of weapons, maybe I can think of some more.

When you said "figure out what to transmute" I figured you meant "let's go farm more gear!" You know? As if implying you didn't have anything else. I know I don't, so I transmute for "8k" per without guilty. Better than letting it sit there eating my bag slots and doing nothing. I'll get 700 crystals (14 toons) every month if I'm in need... See my point? At this stage, would be silly not to do it, even for 5k.

It is only once per month. If this is one of someone's biggest grips then they clearly do not have much to complain about. Things must be looking good for them.