New StoneFist - Ranged and cast time spammable feels bad

yeyesil · January 2020

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Remove the cast time with it. Don't understand why that part was added. Honestly just let DK's have a ranged spammable like most other classes without adding a strange mechanic to it.

No, just give us a melee spammable. We dont want a range spammable with a full melee character.

nsmurfer · January 2020

amir412 wrote: »

MyPrist wrote: »

For example:
Silver bolts is range too.

DK skill is really good now.

Artorias24 wrote: »

This skill is supposed to be the stamdk spammable and for this aspect it shouldnt be ranged. Period.

Why it should not?
Silver bolt is spamable and range as example - is there any problems?

Yes, no one is using it in PVP unless they are gankers.

@amir412 I have seen non gank stamblade as well as stamsorcs use Shards

Tremors · January 2020

The need to have a cast time every 4 casts is horrible. I literally took this skill off my bar for PVE, it's so frustrating, stonefist is actually decent in the current patch. If you don't want tanks using it, just add the stamina and weapon damage scaling system similar to engulfing flames for magicka.

Asys · January 2020

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

why would anyone be using this worthless skill? when it lost the stun, it lost value.... oh wait, PVE right?

go back to school and learn to read

amir412 · January 2020

nsmurfer wrote: »

amir412 wrote: »

MyPrist wrote: »

For example:
Silver bolts is range too.

DK skill is really good now.

Artorias24 wrote: »

This skill is supposed to be the stamdk spammable and for this aspect it shouldnt be ranged. Period.

Why it should not?
Silver bolt is spamable and range as example - is there any problems?

Yes, no one is using it in PVP unless they are gankers.

@amir412 I have seen non gank stamblade as well as stamsorcs use Shards

I wonder how good players they were

Ragnarock41 · January 2020

amir412 wrote: »

nsmurfer wrote: »

amir412 wrote: »

MyPrist wrote: »

For example:
Silver bolts is range too.

DK skill is really good now.

Artorias24 wrote: »

This skill is supposed to be the stamdk spammable and for this aspect it shouldnt be ranged. Period.

Why it should not?
Silver bolt is spamable and range as example - is there any problems?

Yes, no one is using it in PVP unless they are gankers.

@amir412 I have seen non gank stamblade as well as stamsorcs use Shards

I wonder how good players they were

In either case it is stronger than stonefist because it can actually hit vampires/werewolves quite hard, you get weapon damage for slotting it, and if you're using evil hunter you can greatly reduce its cost.

Not that its good or meta but has a niche that it holds very well. I can't say the same for stonefist unfortunately. Many people say its good because earthen hearth has good passives however with the cooldown on that ult gen passive you don't even get any real benefit out of it.

Ragnarock41 · January 2020

Joy_Division wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

red_emu wrote: »

Just tried the skill on PTS and it feels bad. I think I much prefer the current version of the skill on live.

Spinning orbs are nice but they feel like they should be a magica morph. And how it it supposed to be a spammable? It's like saying NBs bow proc is a spammable ability.

Just give us a nice punching animation instead. For all u care make it a stone b.... Slap. It would feel more like a stamina warrior ability and move the spinning orbs to the other morph.

Agree... for magicka that animation is OK... for stam there should be spikes coming from earth, like Hulk smash, doing dmg all in once and maybe knocking in the air

Impalement from DOS 2 seems a good example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mKdp4Kx1o

You are certainly optimistic. You asking for ZOS, a company which has constantly removed the interesting and unique features of its abilities, to take a que from Larian, who has gone through the trouble to even make sure skills have unique and interesting effects just by interacting with the environment.

Regarding the cast time, I 'm not sure I see one from the video that was posted. Where is it?

The AoE stomp has a 0.6 seconds cast time.

Dogzey · January 2020

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

With flame lash dying next patch there is a Morph Opening for stamwhip.^^
If my magdk looses flame lash I´d much rather loose it to stamwhip than to some useless Morph no one will Play.

A man can dream

Joxer61 · January 2020

just lose the cast time......same as you did with Solar barrage.