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Please don't gut off balance!

  • ZarkingFrued
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    Please revert the changes to off balance!

    If we give OB a 15 second cooldown then the off balance weave combos will be completely useless =( Very few people even use this as a method to stun so I really feel like it doesn't deserve a nerf. Learning off balance combos has brought a totally new element of gameplay to the experience; after all of the push back from nerfs WHY do we need to nerf something so trivial? Please keep dizzying the same and allow it to inflict off balance on demand, please keep off balance the same and allow us to use this as a viable stun. NO MORE NERFS!

    Almost a decent patch until I saw this absurdity. How can they expect people to use this? It's entirely pointless and you can not rely on it in any way whatsoever. Revert or I'm going to finally be done with this mess of a game
  • ZarkingFrued
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    Seriously ZoS just chill. No one wants to deal with a game that changes the core mechanics every 3 months. Just make your dungeons and trials, release them, and stop it.
    Edited by ZarkingFrued on January 21, 2020 3:23PM
  • Elwendryll
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    Well, I tried it on PTS, the power lash doesn't consume it, so you can use it 3 times during the off-balance window. And then 15s cooldown. So you can do like Stun -> Flame Lash -> Power Lash -> Anything -> Power Lash -> Anything -> Power Lash -> anything -> 15s cooldown. Is it bad? I don't know, I don't play mDK.
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  • MentalxHammer
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    MirkoZ wrote: »
    Cd ln off balance should be max 5 sec not more...

    CD for off balance should be 0 seconds! It already gets consumed by a heavy/medium and CC immunity already
    Elwendryll wrote: »
    Well, I tried it on PTS, the power lash doesn't consume it, so you can use it 3 times during the off-balance window. And then 15s cooldown. So you can do like Stun -> Flame Lash -> Power Lash -> Anything -> Power Lash -> Anything -> Power Lash -> anything -> 15s cooldown. Is it bad? I don't know, I don't play mDK.

    Not being able to use your main spammable effectively for 15 seconds, yes, bad
  • thadjarvis
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    What is the current OB duration and cooldown in PvP?
  • MentalxHammer
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    thadjarvis wrote: »
    What is the current OB duration and cooldown in PvP?

    OB duration is 7 seconds, there is no cooldown but the CC immunity is 7 seconds, so there is already a system in place to prevent constant off balance stuns.

    Putting a cooldown on off balance would be like putting a cooldown on major fracture or breach, just why..?
  • thadjarvis
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    I see the other DK morph much more often. But probably more importantly it cuts damage down across the board for PvP CP stam as OB is up all the time if that’s the case

    (I though it had some cd but could never figure it out in gameplay on a 2Her)
  • Destyran
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    Templar’s need OB because we rely on 75 points in thaum and toppling
  • Solariken
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    Being set off balance every time someone ninja rolls in Cyrodiil is hella freaking annoying. Change my mind.
  • Xvorg
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Being set off balance every time someone ninja rolls in Cyrodiil is hella freaking annoying. Change my mind.

    Then the problem is tactician. What about changing it?
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  • JumpmanLane
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    Elwendryll wrote: »
    Well, I tried it on PTS, the power lash doesn't consume it, so you can use it 3 times during the off-balance window. And then 15s cooldown. So you can do like Stun -> Flame Lash -> Power Lash -> Anything -> Power Lash -> Anything -> Power Lash -> anything -> 15s cooldown. Is it bad? I don't know, I don't play mDK.

    Not really, 9 times out of 10 you miss the powerlash against competent people in PvP after Fossilize. If you do get it off it’s usually after a block of a heavy or after they got off balanced by something else.

    In short, I never depended on powerlash after Fossilize. In practice, if off balanced isn’t consumed might get more powerlash procs off than before once the fool is off balance. If so a cool down that size may be warranted. Have to see how it goes.
    Edited by JumpmanLane on January 22, 2020 2:29AM
  • Jhough503
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    There is a poll thread regarding the off balance changes, you should all go vote on it please. This can't make it live!
  • mayasunrising
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    My understand of OB and why it was implemented was to make combat more group oriented; one player keeps things off-balance and the others get the benefits. This is how I have been playing my magsorc in both pve and pvpland. A fifteen second immunity? I might as well not even bother with OB anymore. :|
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  • lucky_Sage
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    It’s a dumb change probably made to lower DPS. They need to stop trying to lower dps with buffs and debuffs and abilities cost/dmg when they need to rework CP and Tweak battleroar
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