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New Stam Meta

kaithuzar
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New Stam Meta:

Titanborn + Pariah ... GG
Member of:
Fantasia - osh kosh b-josh
Just Chill - Crown's house
GoldCloaks - Durruthy test server penga
Small Meme Guild - Mano's house

Former member of:
Legend - Siffer fan boy club
TKO (tamriel knight's order) - free bks
Deviance - Leonard's senche tiger
Purple - hamNchz is my hero
Eight Divines - myrlifax stop playing final fantasy
WKB (we kill bosses) - turd where you go?
Arcance Council - Klytz Kommander
World Boss - Mike & Chewy gone EP
M12 (majestic twelve) - cult of the loli zerg
  • Wheresthetea11
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    All hail the tank meta
  • mursie
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    we need to find a class that can reduce their own health on demand... maybe by using a purge ability. maybe put it behind an expansion for some real p2w.

    any ideas of a class that could do that and really activate this new titanborn?
    twitch.tv/mursieftw
    twitter: @mursieftw
  • Jolipinator
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    Anyone can use Blood Altar.
    PS5 EU.
  • Royaji
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    mursie wrote: »
    we need to find a class that can reduce their own health on demand... maybe by using a purge ability. maybe put it behind an expansion for some real p2w.

    any ideas of a class that could do that and really activate this new titanborn?

    None of you believed me!! Who is the one laughing now!? I've told you all that those Ravage Health potions will be useful one day!!
  • mursie
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    Anyone can use Blood Altar.

    yeah - maybe symmetry becomes the new meta armor ability.
    twitch.tv/mursieftw
    twitter: @mursieftw
  • Royaji
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    On a more serious note, Balance also comes to mind.
  • Urzigurumash
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    Expunge & Modify. Necro, Nord, Bloodspawn, Bone Goliath.

    edit: oh I get the joke now @mursie . Yeah it's clearly a match made in hell. Oh well gives this class something cool to do again. Might as well run with Maarselok too really

    Edited by Urzigurumash on January 21, 2020 9:45PM
    Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast
  • ZonasArch
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    mursie wrote: »
    we need to find a class that can reduce their own health on demand... maybe by using a purge ability. maybe put it behind an expansion for some real p2w.

    any ideas of a class that could do that and really activate this new titanborn?

    The fact you think expansion is p2w is beyond funny, specially when a year from release they become DLC and not expansion...

    But hey, let's call anything p2w and make ourselves look ignorant to what p2w actually is! That sounds fun!
  • Urzigurumash
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    Not to mention StamCros are about the least intimidating Stam class in PvP really, if this risky gimmick set is strongest on them then good for them
    Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast
  • Strider__Roshin
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    kaithuzar wrote: »
    New Stam Meta:

    Titanborn + Pariah ... GG

    + Vampirism
  • Zulera301
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    I fail to see how this is an issue. :^)
    Shortly after the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a Nord woman was given a tour of the Tribunal Temple. When later asked about the experience, she seemed upset. Suffice to say, the Dunmer were not pleased to hear this, and thus they inquired further.
    "Well," the Nord frowned, "the priests were very angry and unwelcoming. They kept shouting things at me like "you can't drink that mead in here!" and "somebody stop her, she's running naked!" and "we can't catch her; she's covered in grease!""
  • MentalxHammer
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    I can't wait for people to make this build so I can kill them super fast
  • WreckfulAbandon
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    One day the forums will catch up with the reality that Stam Necro is overall the most powerful class in PvP.

    I won't hold my breath though.

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    All my comments are regarding PvP
  • ZonasArch
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    One day the forums will catch up with the reality that Stam Necro is overall the most powerful class in PvP.

    I won't hold my breath though.

    maybe you need to read the forums more, everyone knows that already...
  • mursie
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    mursie wrote: »
    we need to find a class that can reduce their own health on demand... maybe by using a purge ability. maybe put it behind an expansion for some real p2w.

    any ideas of a class that could do that and really activate this new titanborn?

    The fact you think expansion is p2w is beyond funny, specially when a year from release they become DLC and not expansion...

    But hey, let's call anything p2w and make ourselves look ignorant to what p2w actually is! That sounds fun!

    the fact that you think a 1 year access advantage to one of the strongest classes/kits in the game, over your fellow competitors that have not purchased the expansion due to insufficient pay abilities is not PAY TO WIN is beyond funny, especially when you consider what PAY TO WIN means.

    But hey, let's call p2w anything and make ourselves look ignorant to what p2w actually is! that sounds fun!
    twitch.tv/mursieftw
    twitter: @mursieftw
  • Sorbin
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    Not to mention StamCros are about the least intimidating Stam class in PvP really, if this risky gimmick set is strongest on them then good for them

    You haven't met a well-built one then. They're capable of being more tanky and having better burst than just about any other single class in the game. Some of the mechanics are wonky, but a good one can typically survive until a Blastbones actually lines up, and then you eat an absolutely insane amount of damage.
  • Urzigurumash
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    Sorbin wrote: »
    Not to mention StamCros are about the least intimidating Stam class in PvP really, if this risky gimmick set is strongest on them then good for them

    You haven't met a well-built one then. They're capable of being more tanky and having better burst than just about any other single class in the game. Some of the mechanics are wonky, but a good one can typically survive until a Blastbones actually lines up, and then you eat an absolutely insane amount of damage.

    I don't doubt that for a second, there simply may be more good players playing the other classes than anything about the strength of the class itself - a high learning curve probably, it seems that way to me with the wonky mechanics and complicated skills. If Titanborn inequitably benefits the masses of average players that chose StamCro over other classes, then it is good, is more what I meant, i.e., if this helps put Bone Goliath StamCro closer to a place where it was during the Bash meta, then I'm all for it. Whether it actually works out on Bone Goliath or not remains to be seen of course. In my view Bone Goliath is most useful right now for troll tanking, at which it is excellent.
    Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast
  • exeeter702
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    mursie wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    mursie wrote: »
    we need to find a class that can reduce their own health on demand... maybe by using a purge ability. maybe put it behind an expansion for some real p2w.

    any ideas of a class that could do that and really activate this new titanborn?

    The fact you think expansion is p2w is beyond funny, specially when a year from release they become DLC and not expansion...

    But hey, let's call anything p2w and make ourselves look ignorant to what p2w actually is! That sounds fun!

    the fact that you think a 1 year access advantage to one of the strongest classes/kits in the game, over your fellow competitors that have not purchased the expansion due to insufficient pay abilities is not PAY TO WIN is beyond funny, especially when you consider what PAY TO WIN means.

    But hey, let's call p2w anything and make ourselves look ignorant to what p2w actually is! that sounds fun!

    Technically the set would have to be objectively superior at its core on item power budget alone for it to qualify as p2w in the traditional sense from where p2w came from.

    Secondly its dungeon dlc so there is no 1 year advantage, as dungeon dlc is forever behind eso plus or an outright purchase, unless I'm forgetting something.
  • Sorbin
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    Sorbin wrote: »
    Not to mention StamCros are about the least intimidating Stam class in PvP really, if this risky gimmick set is strongest on them then good for them

    You haven't met a well-built one then. They're capable of being more tanky and having better burst than just about any other single class in the game. Some of the mechanics are wonky, but a good one can typically survive until a Blastbones actually lines up, and then you eat an absolutely insane amount of damage.

    I don't doubt that for a second, there simply may be more good players playing the other classes than anything about the strength of the class itself - a high learning curve probably, it seems that way to me with the wonky mechanics and complicated skills. If Titanborn inequitably benefits the masses of average players that chose StamCro over other classes, then it is good, is more what I meant, i.e., if this helps put Bone Goliath StamCro closer to a place where it was during the Bash meta, then I'm all for it. Whether it actually works out on Bone Goliath or not remains to be seen of course. In my view Bone Goliath is most useful right now for troll tanking, at which it is excellent.

    I would agree with that. A lot of people haven't really figured out the class yet, but it's beginning to emerge more and more as an incredibly potent Stam class even in 1v1 and 1vX scenarios. I don't really see Titanborn being too strong as it seems that trying to maximize your strength from execute range is super awkward, but someone may prove that wrong. However, Unchained Aggressor seems to have incredible potential; timing a Break Free with Fury maxed out into an ult dump is gonna be a nasty combo, particularly from a Stamcro but really from just about anything.
  • Barbaran
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    Sorbin wrote: »
    Not to mention StamCros are about the least intimidating Stam class in PvP really, if this risky gimmick set is strongest on them then good for them

    You haven't met a well-built one then. They're capable of being more tanky and having better burst than just about any other single class in the game. Some of the mechanics are wonky, but a good one can typically survive until a Blastbones actually lines up, and then you eat an absolutely insane amount of damage.

    I find it interesting that people are screaming stamcros are OP, with an unreliable burst, where wardens have the same damage burst that is reliable.
    Blastbones needs a target to cast, and then who knows what it's gonna do after, could just stand there.
    Sub assault always works, and can be used around a corner without a target for the surprise burst, then applys major fracture.
    But let's keep pretending every other class other then stamcro is under powered
  • Chrlynsch
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    Kiss Curse baby.
    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • Sorbin
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    Barbaran wrote: »
    Sorbin wrote: »
    Not to mention StamCros are about the least intimidating Stam class in PvP really, if this risky gimmick set is strongest on them then good for them

    You haven't met a well-built one then. They're capable of being more tanky and having better burst than just about any other single class in the game. Some of the mechanics are wonky, but a good one can typically survive until a Blastbones actually lines up, and then you eat an absolutely insane amount of damage.

    I find it interesting that people are screaming stamcros are OP, with an unreliable burst, where wardens have the same damage burst that is reliable.
    Blastbones needs a target to cast, and then who knows what it's gonna do after, could just stand there.
    Sub assault always works, and can be used around a corner without a target for the surprise burst, then applys major fracture.
    But let's keep pretending every other class other then stamcro is under powered

    I never said Necros were OP. I said they're much stronger than many people have realized yet. I agree that their mechanics are wonky, but the strength of Stamcros is that they get the tankiness of a Stam DK with the burst potential of a Stam Warden. They can suffer in terms of sustain, but capable players who can manage it can make Stamcro insanely dangerous in 1v1 and 1vX scenarios.
  • OtarTheMad
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    I really don't see Stamcros as OP. Even now, in this PTS, with a reliable burst (since it seems that BB was fixed) it can still be CC, dodged, stunned, knocked backed, negated etc. If it wasn't for Major Vulnerability that Hulk Smash ult would be just another average ult that is pretty avoidable.

    As for Titanborn set, yeah it's a good set, with little testing I did anyway. A good set amongst many good sets but probably not the best. You'd have to get your health pretty low to maximize the damage and what if it does not pay off? You could get nuked by the other player since you are sitting there without full health.
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