The problem with Magblade

MartiniDaniels · January 2020

kaithuzar wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Well, everyone received at least small buffs. Nightblades receives nothing, typical.
Class is not under-performing by opinion of majority of PVP community. No needs to buff NB, no sir.
/s

I respect you, but I disagree.
Spend a month playing a magblade in BG's & tell me you don't have to work harder than any other class in there.

That /s means sarcasm.
If anybody needs buff, it is magblade first of all. Bombers or not, class shouldn't be shoehorned in one role..
Overall patch balance is very strange.. reduced cost to aoe is good, other then that they didn't change class imbalance at all, and added some potentially broken cheezy sets.

kaithuzar · January 2020

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Well, everyone received at least small buffs. Nightblades receives nothing, typical.
Class is not under-performing by opinion of majority of PVP community. No needs to buff NB, no sir.
/s

I respect you, but I disagree.
Spend a month playing a magblade in BG's & tell me you don't have to work harder than any other class in there.

That /s means sarcasm.
If anybody needs buff, it is magblade first of all. Bombers or not, class shouldn't be shoehorned in one role..
Overall patch balance is very strange.. reduced cost to aoe is good, other then that they didn't change class imbalance at all, and added some potentially broken cheezy sets.

ah my bad dude, i'm a noob at txt chat acronyms lol

kaithuzar · January 2020

OWLTHEMAD wrote: »

I will say i do like the dynami of malevolent offering being really powerful but costing health, being that we are a blood mage theme i would love to see more of that, kind of goes hand in hand with the high risk, high reward playstyle that night blades are known for. Like maybe a burst damage ability or really strong dot that costs health. Or if we did get a burst heal do it like old version of offering when it first appeared that lets us survive right now, but puts a dot on us compromising our survivability after the fact.

Power at a price.

There are SOOOO many other ways of doing a "blood mage style" it DOESN"T have to mean "sacrificing your own blood!!!!"
Why don't they allow you to manipulate the blood of your enemies!
Move health from one of your enemies to the other so that you can put them in execute range!
Move health from an enemy to a friendly player!
Stop pidgeon holing us into martyrs! We're assassin's & thieves! Not saints!
If anything we're selfish! It's the archetype!

MartiniDaniels · January 2020

kaithuzar wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Well, everyone received at least small buffs. Nightblades receives nothing, typical.
Class is not under-performing by opinion of majority of PVP community. No needs to buff NB, no sir.
/s

I respect you, but I disagree.
Spend a month playing a magblade in BG's & tell me you don't have to work harder than any other class in there.

That /s means sarcasm.
If anybody needs buff, it is magblade first of all. Bombers or not, class shouldn't be shoehorned in one role..
Overall patch balance is very strange.. reduced cost to aoe is good, other then that they didn't change class imbalance at all, and added some potentially broken cheezy sets.

ah my bad dude, i'm a noob at txt chat acronyms lol

Oh this is ok, we all from different countries/cultures

I am not native English speaker, so I am sure for many people, my way to build sentences may look strange

Joosef_Kivikilpi · January 2020

Victor_Blade wrote: »

Every class has some kind of burst heal that they can pair along with various other forms of healing for defense or to get out of execute range. All but magblade.

Templars have bol along with a gap closer that stuns, no cast time ultimate and the best purge in the game. Sorc has pets or even no pet sorc has crit surge, dark deal, best mobility with streak, best shield in the game and boundless along with one of the best single target burst combination in the game

Magblade on the other hand has no healing aside from 200 health every 2 seconds from swallow soul(lmao), siphoning attacks is decent sustain ig but bad compared to dark deal, cloak can be op but it's way better on a stamblade and it has one of the most predictable and easily avoidable burst combo.

Now that's out of the way I want to ask why can magblade not have a burst heal? It feels lacking in PvP cos people run dark cloak on magblade which still isn't good enough to help us out in a fight and you already lose 70% of your mobility when you use dark cloak cos no invisibility.

The class is really lacking in every department say sustain, healing and damage. Soul havest had a cast time which already is wonky and everyone can just dodge roll to avoid merciless bow proc. The class needs to be fixed in Al departments to make the class a tad more reliable. A burst heal is necessary and you're free to take out the mitigation buff from merciless cos every sane magblade main shoots the bow as soon as it's up cos that's their only way of putting pressure on the enemy.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Mageblade doesn't have BURST HEAL?? Ummm... Assassin's Will 7m dodgeable burst heal, bro. Duh. /s

Iskiab · January 2020

I think one of two things is happening:

1. Vampire isn’t up on PTS. That means they’re still working on it and haven’t released what it’ll look like, and it might mesh really well with magblade. I’d call this the optimistic view.

2. The devs have a power budget on cloak and it’s pretty damn high. That means you have to accept that because of cloak the class will always be underpowered. The nerfs are recent, so you can infer that this is the view of the new combat team.

Either way you’ll have your answer by the time the expansion releases. Leveling alts is easy in the game, jump to the dark side if you aren’t happy with the class after the expansion and make an alt. Things will be unlikely to change.