The Most Useless Set nomination

haelene · January 2020

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

@Saucy_Jack BEST SET COMPETITION GO!

Hmmm....*strokes beard*

Wouldn't this eventually just come down to the number of stamina-based players vs the number of magic-based players? Like, everyone plays in the various zones; everyone through the quests or previous games interacts with the various deities, but there are players who've never touched certain sets and have no intention on doing so.

I mean, if we can figure out a way to make it even remotely unbiased, I'd be all for the idea.

One competition for stam one for mag?

Everstorm · January 2020

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Sithis Touch? You don't need Major Berserk when you can instakill everything with Blade of Woe, and when you need the Major Berserk you can't kill anything with Blade of Woe. A set bonus condraticting itself.

Presumably the idea is to kill one mob with Blade of Woe and then kill it's friends (mobs are often not alone) with the buff up. The combination with health bonusses is the real killer. Had they made it a stamina dps set with a stealth detection reduction range it would be pretty fun for thieves/assassins.

Khrogo · January 2020

Anything from Blessed Crucible, apart from Troll King.

CAB_Life · January 2020

Let’s not forget the “stuck in combat” bug, which prohibits you from riding and thus adds insult to injury with an already highly questionable set.

BisDasBlutGefriert · January 2020

After reading through a bunch of these, I realized that alot of the sets mentioned as worse sets, have been ones that I've used more than once for the weapon dam and crit haha! Silly me

doomette · January 2020

Khrogo wrote: »

Anything from Blessed Crucible, apart from Troll King.

At least the announcer lady makes it worth it.

krachall · January 2020

doomette wrote: »

Khrogo wrote: »

Anything from Blessed Crucible, apart from Troll King.

At least the announcer lady makes it worth it.

HOW DID YOU WEEEEN???

She's one of my top 5 NPCs in the game. Sad she met such an untimely demise.

tauriel01 · January 2020

I vote for Sithis' Touch. Adept Rider is useful once. That's one time more than Sithis' bwahahahaha

Ryath_Waylander · January 2020

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

Nononono

Pair this with:
3 piece Night terror (3 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 27%
4 Piece Darloc Brae 4 items: Reduces the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 10%

On my Vamp magblade Khajiit I can stand next to the Guard in any bank and loot the chest without being seen

Ryath_Waylander · January 2020

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Easily Spelunker:

2 items: Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
3 items: Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
4 items: Adds 129 Weapon Damage
5 items: Adds 400 Weapon and Spell Damage to your Undaunted abilities. When an ally uses one of your Undaunted ability synergies you restore 1500 Stamina.

Have you tried this with new orbs on whole party? Instant stamina restore from 0 to 100%.

Wow, never thought of that. Hmm hybrid pvp warden heal... hmm

ZonasArch · January 2020

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

I have that on a nightblade cat for PvP and streaking pve. Pretty useful and well balanced trade off. I used to think it was stupid set too but now I think it's one of the fun niche sets, not a unfun stupid one. I've gotten away with many things in cyrodiil just by crouching and being out of detection range on that cat, not even being invisible (which I can do permanently on this character).

krachall · January 2020

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

I have 7 max CP characters and this is the base set for one of them. My dunmer vampire assassin was built solely for sneaking missions (I absolutely love the daily DB Sacrament and TG Heists) and this set lets my float through them like a ghost.

Vampire = full speed stealth
Night Mother's = Reduced detection radius
Jailbreaker's = base movement speed increase

So much fun for the stealth quests!

CoronHR · January 2020

this is armour shaming! akin to body shaming and, um, maybe noob shaming

MellowMagic · January 2020

ZonasArch wrote: »

MellowMagic wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

MellowMagic wrote: »

Ice Furnace

(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
(3 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(5 items) When you deal direct damage with a Frost Damage ability, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 1026 Flame Damage to all enemies within 8 meters around the initial target. This effect can occur once every 1 second.

Free damage easy proc, how's that a contender for the worse set?

Have you ever used it? btw how many direct damage frost skills are there? For 1k dmg? Its complete garbage.

Yeah, I did. It's not the best, but this isn't a "best" contest. It's a worst, and this isn't the worst. Nit by a loooooong stretch.

And its only a heavy set if you use body pieces

I had a fully AoE based warden ice mage, the uptime on this set was basically 100%. Fit the theme and wasn't anything like sithis touch or the crafting one for when you're riding mounts or whatever. Forgot the name of that one. Adept rider?

Anyway... My point is simple... Sucking is just sucking. We need the ultimate "just delete the game files ready".

Ice Furnace:
This set no longer requires direct damage with a proc chance to trigger.
Increased the damage to 1644 from 1056.

Hot damn now this is looking alot cooler

Urzigurumash · January 2020

I have to say it's a tie between Adept Rider and Para Bellum in terms of the 5 piece, but since Adept Rider is a low trait craftable set with a strong 3 piece that I believe is only shared with Alessian Order (which has very expensive weapons), and Para Bellum is only farmed in MA, that Para Bellum is in fact the worst.

Also because somebody once claimed Crusader does in fact do something

WrathOfInnos · January 2020

Urzigurumash wrote: »

I have to say it's a tie between Adept Rider and Para Bellum in terms of the 5 piece, but since Adept Rider is a low trait craftable set with a strong 3 piece that I believe is only shared with Alessian Order (which has very expensive weapons), and Para Bellum is only farmed in MA, that Para Bellum is in fact the worst.

Also because somebody once claimed Crusader does in fact do something

Para Bellum looks powerful compared to the new monster helm shield set. I nominate this for most useless set:

Mother Ciannait – Monster Mask
1 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
2 – While in combat, casting an ability with a cast time or channeling an ability grants you a damage shield that absorbs 3000 damage for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

Urzigurumash · January 2020

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Para Bellum looks powerful compared to the new monster helm shield set. I nominate this for most useless set:

Mother Ciannait – Monster Mask
1 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
2 – While in combat, casting an ability with a cast time or channeling an ability grants you a damage shield that absorbs 3000 damage for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

You're not wrong there, has that tooltip been verified on PTS?

WrathOfInnos · January 2020

Urzigurumash wrote: »

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

Para Bellum looks powerful compared to the new monster helm shield set. I nominate this for most useless set:

Mother Ciannait – Monster Mask
1 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
2 – While in combat, casting an ability with a cast time or channeling an ability grants you a damage shield that absorbs 3000 damage for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

You're not wrong there, has that tooltip been verified on PTS?

Yes, patch notes and PTS tooltip match. Hopefully its just a mistake higher up the chain.

Lisutaris · January 2020

Let me add vykosa after reading pts notes.
thx

Jaraal · January 2020

Urzigurumash wrote: »

Para Bellum is in fact the worst.

If you stack damage shields, it's possible to keep Para up all the time. Far from the worst set.

HawkFest · January 2020

CAB_Life wrote: »

Adept Rider is the clear frontrunner.

Yeah you cannot mount during combat unless you get far away from it, so it can be used only once... HOWEVER, there's one situation where it can be useful: in PvP when you have an average to large group including a battalion of 4-6 riders, it can be a strategic feature. Never tried it though, not enough ppl (I mean "none") wanted to try that..

silver1surfer69 · January 2020

CAB_Life wrote: »

Adept Rider is the clear frontrunner. [

ive been using 2pc adept on front bar...^^

Taemiru · January 2020

Lisutaris wrote: »

Maybe if there are more stam than magicka, but then.... Why would you want 4+stam melees in a raid.
Have not seen that set for ages... And i am in a lot if trial grps...thankfully with more range than melee.

Em... you know that the end game score pushers run pretty much stam only? Well if we are not talking about vCR and vAS ofc.
Stam on average pull more dps than magica.

ZonasArch · January 2020

Since they are reworking crafted sets, it would be honestly really really cool if adept rider suddenly allowed you to mount while in combat. Maybe with a cool down after forcefully dismounting, and then you can jump back on. Would be interesting to see entire groups of high mobile people around keep fights.

Dreaming is free.

Urzigurumash · January 2020

Jaraal wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

Para Bellum is in fact the worst.

If you stack damage shields, it's possible to keep Para up all the time. Far from the worst set.

Really, if that's the case then Para Bellum is quite strong. That's what I get for commenting without having tried it. I would have expected the tooltip to read "take damage to your health", ala Pirate Skeleton, which does not proc off damage to a damage shield, rather than "take damage", ala Bloodspawn and Lord Warden, which do proc off damage to a damage shield. However the phrasing on Para Bellum is unique - there are dozens of sets that read "take damage", but only one other set with anything about "in the last X seconds", being Hunt Leader, I think.

Joosef_Kivikilpi · January 2020

New useless set nomination:

The new magicka shield monster set in its unchanged state lolz

Tanis-Stormbinder · January 2020

The new Draugrkin set

Draugrkin’s Grip – Light Armor
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
3 – Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
4 – Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
5 – Dealing direct damage to an enemy has a 10% chance to place a ghostly curse on your enemy for 6 seconds. Cursed enemies take 530 extra damage from all your damage abilities. This effect can occur once every 6 seconds.

Just another single target Spell Strategist rework

Olupajmibanan · January 2020

Tanis-Stormbinder wrote: »

The new Draugrkin set

Draugrkin’s Grip – Light Armor
2 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
3 – Adds 1487 Spell Penetration
4 – Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
5 – Dealing direct damage to an enemy has a 10% chance to place a ghostly curse on your enemy for 6 seconds. Cursed enemies take 530 extra damage from all your damage abilities. This effect can occur once every 6 seconds.

Just another single target Spell Strategist rework

Just to remind. This thread is "The most useless set nomination" and not "An useless set nomination".

MEBengalsFan2001 · January 2020

CompM4s wrote: »

Sithis Touch
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you use Blade of Woe, you gain Major Berserk for 20 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%

All sets in the game can be used for niche builds, including this one.