The Most Useless Set nomination

Vildebill

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

That set is great in combination with Khajiit, darloc Brae and the third set I don't remember the name of, which in combination gives you three of those bonuses, and thus almost undetectable.

aaisoaho

Sentry

2 items: Adds 12-1096 Maximum Stamina
3 items: Adds 1-129 Weapon Damage
4 items: Adds 9-833 Weapon Critical
5 items: Adds 1-129 Weapon Damage
5 items: When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.

NupidStoob

You used to be able to use blade of woe on some mobs in imperial city which gave you major berserk for the next gank or bomb. Idk if that still works, but that at least gives the set some use over the others listed here. I'd vote for the set that buffs damage of soul trap, it reads like it buffs the ult as well, but it doesn't.

Olupajmibanan

Sithis Touch? You don't need Major Berserk when you can instakill everything with Blade of Woe, and when you need the Major Berserk you can't kill anything with Blade of Woe. A set bonus condraticting itself.

Tommy_The_Gun

Just one ?

Tormentor set:
https://eso-sets.com/set/tormentor

Set bonus
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(4 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Charge ability, you gain 3642 Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance and taunt the enemy to attack you for 15 seconds.

It is either broken (or intended ?) and does not proc from all gap closers.... And it renders this kinda useless...

Olupajmibanan

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Just one ?

Tormentor set:
https://eso-sets.com/set/tormentor

Set bonus
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(4 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Charge ability, you gain 3642 Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance and taunt the enemy to attack you for 15 seconds.

It is either broken (or intended ?) and does not proc from all gap closers.... And it renders this kinda useless...

It does not say gap closer, it specificaly says Charge Ability. We do not consider Teleport Strike a Charge ability, do we? The same applies to Empowering Chains. I think it is working as intended, but I do agree that it should work with all cast-on-target gap closers and have its tooltip updated.

Raudgrani

Adept Rider, no question whatsoever. I guess they were thinking like, "Let's do a sort of drive-by shooting set for Battlegrounds, now that you can mount in some of them!". Otherwise, I have no idea whatsoever. if they thought it's usable in Cyrodiil, it's evident they don't play the game themselves.

Chrysa1is

Oh it's Sithis' Touch for sure. Really needs a rework. I think Sithis' Touch 5 piece should bring back that extra stealth damage that got removed a while ago.

O_LYKOS

Stibbons wrote: »

All healer sets are bad: Vestments of Olorime, The Worm’s Raiment, Healing Mage,.. They are really nothing more than buff other players and make your own character weaker at healing and damage.

The whole idea of a healer is to heal and buff your group

Ysbriel

Im joining the adept rider bandwagon

FierceSam

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

Not useless at all. Was actually great for doing Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood dailies, still good for pickpocketing and burglary, although there are better sets for stealthing now.

Not every set has to be best for trial dpsing

Meanwhile...

Relequen’s ... *** useless for any enemy that requires fewer than 12 hits to die, only really effective in dungeons and trials (not that this prevents me from having sets on multiple characters). Outperformed by many, many base overland sets in these situations

Siroria ... great for dummies, shite when you actually have to, you know, move a bit

Lokke’s ... 40% of its utility is lost outside trials and dungeons

Alkosh ... shite when no synergies

Etc etc

Coatmagic

At least Adept still has a 5 pc xD

Brass was also gutted.

Darkstorne

max_only wrote: »

Way of Air.

Way of Air 5 piece bonus: When you use Roll Dodge, your Weapon Damage and Spell Damage is increased by 344 for 6 seconds.
Bosmer Hunter's Eye passive: Gain 10% Movement Speed for 6s and a bonus to Physical and Spell Penetration of 1500 for the duration after using Roll Dodge.
Essence Thief 5 piece bonus: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you draw essence from the enemy that pools near them for 5 seconds. Drawing from the pool heals you for 4485 Health, restores 3900 Stamina, and increases your damage done by 10% for 10 seconds. A pool can only be created once every 10 seconds.

It's not BiS, but it's definitely not the worst set either. Combine with supporting sets and passives and it's pretty fun Roll dodge to the essence thief proc as a Bosmer with Way of Air, and enjoy 6-10 seconds of carnage. It's also an amazing combo for stamina sustain, so you can use the Master's Greatsword with this for example and spam cleave to your heart's content! (Increases the direct damage Cleave deals by 1500 for each enemy in its cone, up to maximum 9000 increased damage.)

Olupajmibanan

Judging from comments, this seems like a tie between Sithis Touch and Adept Rider.

Hotdog_23

Adept rider hands down.

Olupajmibanan

I think we have finalists already. We shall start a poll "Sithis Touch vs Adept Rider. Which is less of use?".

Raudgrani

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

It's awesome for thieves. There's some other set with a similar bonus (Night Terror, perhaps?), if you stack them you can recklessly "theive" all you want, and not get spotted other than rarely. I have a combo of these sets in a storage chest, I've used it when I'm leveling sneak on some Nightblade.

ZOS_Ragnar

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Gnome_Saiyan

Raudgrani wrote: »

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

It's awesome for thieves. There's some other set with a similar bonus (Night Terror, perhaps?), if you stack them you can recklessly "theive" all you want, and not get spotted other than rarely. I have a combo of these sets in a storage chest, I've used it when I'm leveling sneak on some Nightblade.

I carry 5 pc Night Mothers, 4 pc Darloc Brae, and 3 pc Night Terror on all my thieves/assassins. Double radius reduction and full movement speed while stealthed. Heists and sacraments are a breeze. A swift, quiet breeze.

Starlock

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

I think we have finalists already. We shall start a poll "Sithis Touch vs Adept Rider. Which is less of use?".

It’s situational, like every set in the game. They can both be fun on certain characters.

I’ll still stand by my earlier comment that the most useless sets are the ones I can’t reasonably get (which is roughly half of them). Neither of these two qualify for that as they aren’t stuck behind arenas/trials/dungeons.

Lady_Linux

Coatmagic wrote: »

At least Adept still has a 5 pc xD

Brass was also gutted.

if you are goiong to argue that fortified brass got gutted then you are going to have to explain to us the difference between physical and spell resistance and armor and which is the current bonus....

6434 armor or 8145 physical and spell resistance which is better and why

Lady_Linux

clearly adept rider is currently as a set is without merit and the hands down winner

doomette

Lady_Linux wrote: »

clearly adept rider is currently as a set is without merit and the hands down winner

And you’d actually have to use mats to make it. At least you can decon ST.

Raudgrani

Gnome_Saiyan wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

akdave0 wrote: »

Night Mothers
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%

It's awesome for thieves. There's some other set with a similar bonus (Night Terror, perhaps?), if you stack them you can recklessly "theive" all you want, and not get spotted other than rarely. I have a combo of these sets in a storage chest, I've used it when I'm leveling sneak on some Nightblade.

I carry 5 pc Night Mothers, 4 pc Darloc Brae, and 3 pc Night Terror on all my thieves/assassins. Double radius reduction and full movement speed while stealthed. Heists and sacraments are a breeze. A swift, quiet breeze.

Didn't even know of Darloc Brae, haven't been playing too much the last 6 months or so. Thanks, I'll have a look at it. But yes, sets like those are very nice for leveling sneak etc. I used the two ones when I did Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood, makes them a breeze. I just always forgot to switch sets when I went back to Cyrodiil, and was like "Wtf is this? Perfekt gank and the *** didn't die!?".

Lady_Linux

CompM4s wrote: »

Sithis Touch
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you use Blade of Woe, you gain Major Berserk for 20 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%

CompM4s wrote: »

Sithis Touch
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you use Blade of Woe, you gain Major Berserk for 20 seconds, increasing your damage done by 25%

this could be useful if you are using blade of woe and are facing more than one enemy on a thieves guild or dark brotherhood quest. so while it may not suit 12 man trials it does have its use. You give up a lot to play stealth so a buff for using blade of woe could be useful if you wished to play that way but honestly there are other sets id rater use. it's not useless it's just not a build anyone wants, these two things are not equal


adept rider is useless

Lady_Linux

Zurixadai wrote: »

Hagraven's Garden. But I'm biased.

I want to love the set, because it is the only five-piece in the game to have "Nature" effects, but I have never found a way to make it usable.

looks tanky


5 items: When you take damage while under 50% Health, you summon a preservation of nature around you for 5 seconds. Any damage you take from enemies outside of the preservation is reduced by 50%, and the first time an enemy tries to enter the preservation they are knocked back 5 meters. This effect can occur once every 45 seconds.

Toanis

Lady_Linux wrote: »

if you are goiong to argue that fortified brass got gutted then you are going to have to explain to us the difference between physical and spell resistance and armor and which is the current bonus....

6434 armor or 11120 physical and spell resistance which is better and why

Armor is both resistances combined, so while 4 pieces give you the same resistances as before (well, -1 each), the 5 piece bonus went down from 5170 to 3460.

SidraWillowsky

@Saucy_Jack BEST SET COMPETITION GO!

Gnome_Saiyan

Raudgrani wrote: »

Didn't even know of Darloc Brae, haven't been playing too much the last 6 months or so. Thanks, I'll have a look at it. But yes, sets like those are very nice for leveling sneak etc. I used the two ones when I did Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood, makes them a breeze. I just always forgot to switch sets when I went back to Cyrodiil, and was like "Wtf is this? Perfekt gank and the *** didn't die!?".

Yeah, thought I did error, I meant to say 5 pc of Night's Silence, 4 Darloc, and 3 night terror. Sorry for that.

Jaraal

Darkstorne wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Way of Air.

Way of Air 5 piece bonus: When you use Roll Dodge, your Weapon Damage and Spell Damage is increased by 344 for 6 seconds.
Bosmer Hunter's Eye passive: Gain 10% Movement Speed for 6s and a bonus to Physical and Spell Penetration of 1500 for the duration after using Roll Dodge.

Except the stealth detection from both of these alerts hidden enemies to your presence much earlier in PvP. Their "eye" when hidden will open much sooner and they will know an enemy is near and prepare to strike...... even if the person approaching has no idea they are there. Makes it much harder for someone with that passive or that set (and the Sentry set) to slip through groups of enemies undetected.