Nestor wrote: »

Every Crafting Related event spikes prices on in demand materials. They always float down after the event is over.

This only affects the unprepared or newer player who has not built up a stock.

To insulate your self, just buy a couple of stacks of the mats you will use before the next event, which should be the Anniversery event. And, even then, you should only need cloth, other mats are self sustaining or a net gain.

Disagree. IF the more or less *ncompetant people who run this game would use a standard deviation limit on prices...the extremes would be avoided. There would be much less chance of any player affecting prices and profiting from "price fixing games" Prices would and could still move but would only reflect the general demand....not somebodies get rich quick scheme.

I think the price issues are now affecting guild trader prices as those who profited are starting to hog the guild trader spots?

It's real wonderful that some can anticipate price moves due to "events" and all...very clever...but not if it trashes the overall pricing system....and the game.

The issue is just a PITA for me...since I have enough game gold to get thru it. But it just ruins the game for newer players who now learn that they can't trust the pricing system...and can't get ahead because of it.

erliesc wrote: »

But it just ruins the game for newer players who now learn that they can't trust the pricing system...and can't get ahead because of it.

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here. There is no "pricing system" -- it's a free market, and new players have the same exact opportunities I did when I began playing two years ago, perhaps more.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

The other thing that really stinks is you use 12 hardwood, or 12 hardwood and 12 bast I think for the military stretcher (and maybe even regulus), and only get 1 writ voucher. That is a terrible return on your investment. Furnishing mats are the hardest ones to obtain in the game.

Which is exactly why Furniture Writs are not offered outside of a certain event each year. All other crafting writs are either a net gain on mats or a near break even (cloth for the most part)

Your doing these furniture writs for an Achievement. Would it be better if furniture writs paid an Event Ticket of some kind? Probably.

erliesc wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Every Crafting Related event spikes prices on in demand materials. They always float down after the event is over.

This only affects the unprepared or newer player who has not built up a stock.

To insulate your self, just buy a couple of stacks of the mats you will use before the next event, which should be the Anniversery event. And, even then, you should only need cloth, other mats are self sustaining or a net gain.

Disagree. IF the more or less *ncompetant people who run this game would use a standard deviation limit on prices...the extremes would be avoided. There would be much less chance of any player affecting prices and profiting from "price fixing games" Prices would and could still move but would only reflect the general demand....not somebodies get rich quick scheme.

I think the price issues are now affecting guild trader prices as those who profited are starting to hog the guild trader spots?

It's real wonderful that some can anticipate price moves due to "events" and all...very clever...but not if it trashes the overall pricing system....and the game.

The issue is just a PITA for me...since I have enough game gold to get thru it. But it just ruins the game for newer players who now learn that they can't trust the pricing system...and can't get ahead because of it.

New players start broke like everyone else who started playing the game, they have to learn how to make gold and save it like everyone else had to, you can't expect to start the game being able to afford everything on the guild traders in a few days.

Quite a few players get sucked into the housing side of the game before they have any gold to spend then complain about the prices of stuff, housing is intended to be a gold sink, for when you reach the point of having more gold than you know what to do with, if you try to do it before you learn to make gold your always going to be broke.


As for Trade guilds most of the big ones can hold onto their spots just fine with or without the extra sales tax from events, a lot of sellers may have made extra gold supplying the furniture mats at high prices, that does not mean they all upped their donations to their trade guilds, only half the sales tax generated goes into the guild banks.


Its a free market, players set their prices based on what their competition puts the same items up for, its no good putting an item up for a million gold and expecting someone to come along and buy it when 100 other people are selling the same thing for 100K for example, people either match that 100K or undercut it hoping to sell their items first.

Your not forced to buy anything on guild traders, people put up an item at X price its take it or leave it. You don't like it visit another store or farm what you need yourself.

If they added fixed values you could put items up for in the guild traders, all that would happen is people would either sell directly in zone at what they feel the item is worth or stop farming the mats at all as they feel the fixed value is not worth the time they spent farming to sell the mats to someone else.

And a fixed value does not stop a rich player buying out the entire stock and selling in zone at the higher rate, if anything it makes it even easier for them to buy out everything that people have listed at the fixed price.

Thought I'd look at the price history for most of the mats that have risen in price lately....while the history is still there.

Facts: Most are Furnishing Mats...

There one where there is at least an attempt is Hemming (Clothing mat) which has gone from ~18 to 22 recently. On a chart you can see a series of BUYs at 60 ~ 3xs the original avg. Continuing.

Bast...orig avg = 14-15 current avg = 77 5.5xs the price

Regulus...orig avg = 12 current avg = 50 4.15xs the price

Dec wax...orig avg = 280 current avg = 313 1.1xs the price

Heartwood...orig avg = 30 current avg = 271 9xs the price

So WHEN are these prices going to magically drop back to their original prices as some predict??? When those who've cornered the market run out of stock???

In the meantime many are paying out way too much for mats....

Makes no difference if someone is using MM or other addon...prices are prices you know.....;-)

The prices have jumped up a bit lately because of the free ESO+ trial. People who don't sub have raced to fill their craft bag before it ends, since once you lose the subscription you can't put more materials in, but you can get them out of there. Sold some surplus rubedo leather at MM +30% last week

xWarbrain wrote: »

The cost of Bugloss is killing me on XboxNA server.

People go around to all the guild traders for weeks, buy up a certain reagent, horde it, then list a ton of it at a high price when its harder to come by. The people that do this play the economy side of the game. They log in, travel from guild trader to guild trader buying it all up while getting an idea of the market Tamriel-wide for specific items. They buy low and sell high.

Bugloss might be the rarest reagent in guild traders in the past 4-5 months. Its hard to find at any price, let alone a reasonable price. The tri-pot struggle is real.

You see an issue there, I see an opportunity.

'Quality' doesn't differ on materials. So you farming the stuff yourself and selling to undercut them creates a pretty straight forward opportunity.

Don't get locked into making gold by doing X and X only.

You need to be fluid and assess the market conditions, plan appropriately and sense your opportunities as they come.

In this situation, I'd be getting out there and farming the mats myself - not to create the pots, but to sell the mats raw!

Arbitrage of the spatial prices in ESO can cause some odd pricing but supply and demand should still be the primary drivers.

Eg alchemy mat prices is strongly driven by change in players guzzling potions / players farming mats. During events farmers probably turn their attention to farming event stuff while at the same there are more players active guzzling potions.

Dude... please stop. If you don't like the prices, go farm yourself. But stop with the conspiracy theories.

Hmm... other than heartwood (which I NEVER saw for anywhere close to 30g a piece before the event)... my prices are like 20-30% lower than yours. (and... I'm actually sharing screenshots )

You also realize that items like Pitch, Honing Stones, Dreugh Wax, Potent Nirn, etc... are all going up because people are actually crafting a new set... New Moon's Acolyte, so they're using more of those sets as well... right?

Or... you can continue to believe that there's this big conspiracy going around... or it's just supply and demand, and people are realizing that they were selling Bast/Regulus/Heartwood for stupid cheap, since they are not really that easy to farm (they don't drop from surveys)

No, but then I do my own farming (and rarely sell "extras"). New players can do this as well. If you have a high need for mats, but consider your time too valuable to spend it farming, then you're stuck paying for someone else's time, someone else who probably views their time as being as valuable as yours.