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Should Group remain Broken in Cyrodiil?

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Thevampirenight
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Just making this because it seems like people are liking how Cyrodiil was playable without groups. What are your thoughts on it should not grouping in cyrodiil be a feature or no?
Edited by Thevampirenight on January 20, 2020 8:11AM
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Should Group remain Broken in Cyrodiil? 107 votes

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
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No Cyrodiil needs groups.
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  • ATomiX69
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    Reduce max group size to 12.
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    Better cyro performance when?
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  • johnjetau
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    I like how you are assuming there are no groups running in Cyrodiil. One of my guilds is currently using discord voice to co-ordinate a large group. I'm pretty sure, other pvp focused guilds are doing the same.

    Its just pug groups, that are having issues, without access to those guilds.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Cyrodiil suffers at mo in my opinion due to the fact unlike the PvE side it forces many more players into the same instance and cant cope, in PvE you simple load to a seprate instance, make PvP a seperate server
  • bmnoble
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    No some sets and skills rely on you being a group for them to affect others.

    That and I mainly just join groups so I know where the actual fighting is happening. If your not in a group by the time you ride out to the little icons on the map showing you where something is happening its usually over with when you arrive.
  • haelene
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    Ultimately it has little to do with me (I'm not a PvP'er) and if it helps solve the lag problem for you guys... great?

    I just don't see them doing that because Cyrodill is supposed to be Group v Group. It's a war zone - hence the large scale PvP.

    I don't have much stake in it though.
  • Qbiken
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    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    Reduce max group size to 12.

    Basically this
  • lpw
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    Just gonna leave this here...

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/494988/cyrodiil-performance-group-size-and-heals
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  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    Reduce max group size to 12.


    This would not work at mo in non cp they run 2x24 groups together all they would do is just have 4 groups instead of 2
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  • Mr_Walker
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    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    Reduce max group size to 12.

    Many ball groups don't run larger than this, so this won't fix your ball group problem.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    As solo player, I of course will be happy if there were no groups at all :D but this will be selfish, so I guess limiting group size to 12 would be an adequate move from ZOS.
    I usually play Cyro on day-offs and it is pretty clear how performance drops when ball groups appear near the evening.
  • Cirantille
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    No

    We do guild runs a few times a week

    So I can track if they are dead on map, if they are killed on bridge or gate etc
    Makes life easier
  • DTStormfox
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    I did vote for making it a feature but would support smaller groups (max. 8 or 12), so friends can still play together.
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  • jecks33
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    i like my zerg
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  • Varana
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    Groups are the entire point of Cyrodiil.
  • munchkinxx
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    We play in a group of maximum 8 people.

    We stay away from ball groups of 20 plus and zergs because then we can actually see a fight to the end without blue screening, lag, loading screens or just getting kicked from server.

    You cannot get near a fight of 60 plus without one side winning from sheer numbers being the survivors of not having blue screened, lagged or kicked into a long loading screen.

    Breaking up the larger groups will ease up the instance pressure on the server. Simply because less calculations will be required to cover such large group buffs and debuffs, aoes effects etc...

    Pretty sure most decent sets or buffs/ debuffs only cover a limited number of people in a group anyway ....?

    The smart healing required for the server to calculate is a huge drain too...so stands to reason, if you want to control these issues....reduce the group numbers.

    I get a lot of guilds want to group in large groups but to be fair...you have guild channels you can use to co ordinate from...I don't see any real penalty there for them but benefit in the long term, once adjusted.
    Edited by munchkinxx on January 20, 2020 12:34PM
  • LukosCreyden
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    As much as I like the sounds of the improved performance, Cyrodiil has always been about grouping; either via premade or pugs.

    As other people have suggested, maybe limiting the size of the groups may help?
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  • Cerotonin
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    Zone chat is the group lol
  • jcm2606
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    Are we seriously asking if the large scale group PvP content ESO has to offer should no longer support grouping? The forums just keep one-upping themselves in stupidity...
  • CASP3R421
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    yall stoopid

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    Due to the excessive amount of bait that we had to remove, this thread will remain closed
  • Emmagoldman
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    I think at first, maybe limit the size of heals to 12 people. So bol only impacts 12 instead of a huge raid. Has zero impact on pve and would help reduce server load

  • Lucious90
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    Just adjust the max raid size to 12-16 group play is essential to Cyro, not to say you cant play solo if you're just looking to kill d00ds
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  • TequilaFire
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    No grouping in an MMO? Please go play Skyrim.
    Doesn't matter if you reduce group size, guilds will just run multiple groups.
  • TequilaFire
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    Emmagoldman wrote: »
    I think at first, maybe limit the size of heals to 12 people. So bol only impacts 12 instead of a huge raid. Has zero impact on pve and would help reduce server load
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  • Donny_Vito
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    Really makes you wonder if people are associating the right problem to the right solution. Correlation, or causation?
  • gatekeeper13
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    Yes, not because performance is better but because "less ball groups" = "more enjoyable PVP experience".
  • EIGHTS
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    Reduce max group size to 12.

    This is useless. Because the ball *** groups are usually in 12 people.


    Edited by EIGHTS on January 20, 2020 2:58PM
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  • ATomiX69
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    Reduce max group size to 12.

    Many ball groups don't run larger than this, so this won't fix your ball group problem.

    I dont have a problem with ballgroups, I have a problem with mindless lfg 24 man zergs, maybe its gonna start encouraging and promoting smaller scale gameplay when you need more zerglords to keep their lfg sheeps in check.
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    Better cyro performance when?
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    world 3rd immortal redeemer (22.02.18) and other not noteworthy trifectas
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    The joy of Cyrodiil is the ability to do anything from solo play to small group to large group etc. Performance needs to be fixed at the base code level, not by removing player gaming options.
  • DarkStrifeYT
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    No Cyrodiil needs groups.
    Groups = Army
    I am dark strife. Khajiit since arena... ya know when they were humans... with face paint... still khajiit only all games...
  • lpw
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    Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.
    It would be great to see an extra campaign added which is no groups allowed. Then if people weren't feeling the performance, they could choose to go into there. Would give people the option, best of both
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