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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    So, checking the pre-order page for the Chapter it seems like we're getting no new (combat) features or skill lines or anything like that...

    The mythic items can augment your build quite dramatically, so there are quite a few possibilities with them.
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    If Verandis isn't one of the folks from House Ravenwatch who is coming back, my Altmer who super crushed on him is going to be heartbroken (again).
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    I can't bloody wait!
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    Pauls wrote: »
    Ofc Lyris will be here, like Sai returned this year

    I've never seen Lyris in a cinematic trailer before... I think she looked like a blond Xena... in armour.
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Pauls wrote: »
    Ofc Lyris will be here, like Sai returned this year

    I've never seen Lyris in a cinematic trailer before... I think she looked like a blond Xena... in armour.

    She so reminded me of Xena too ! :)
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    Chicharron wrote: »
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    I lasted 5 minutes watching the stream. I couldn’t handle the cringy over the top crowd. Suck ups.

    You mean people who enjoy and love the game? Oh yeah, definitely cringy.

    Their enthusiasm just seemed so forced and cringy, and the way they were gut busting laughing at every dumb joke that was being made. Yeah, cringy suck ups.

    I laughed a lot too? Maybe you're just the different one. Insulting those people doesnt help your position any either.

    If you like cringy forced humour then more power to you. Not my thing though. By the looks of it I’m definitely not alone with that point of view. Maybe I’m not so different.

    Agree, 5 minutes were enough to close the transmission.

    I was there, everyone was pretty amped up honestly. It wasn't forced or anything. We were all just hyped and excited for the reveal.

    I didn't say it was fake.

    Seeing people who are moved to tears by a video game is not my thing.

    If you enjoyed the conference I am happy for you, it was done thinking about you guys.

    You will not invite someone who does not want to applaud and shout every 30 seconds at your conference.

    The audience werent invited, the event attendance was RSVP. The audience WANTED to be there.
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  • Nebthet78
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Pauls wrote: »
    Ofc Lyris will be here, like Sai returned this year

    I've never seen Lyris in a cinematic trailer before... I think she looked like a blond Xena... in armour.

    She so reminded me of Xena too ! :)

    Well, kinda funny you say that, since the last time I met Lucy Lawless (Xena) in 2018 she had blonde hair.
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    Nebthet78 wrote: »
    delenn35 wrote: »
    Pauls wrote: »
    Ofc Lyris will be here, like Sai returned this year

    I've never seen Lyris in a cinematic trailer before... I think she looked like a blond Xena... in armour.

    She so reminded me of Xena too ! :)

    Well, kinda funny you say that, since the last time I met Lucy Lawless (Xena) in 2018 she had blonde hair.

    Oh crap the actress for Xena was also the Threes in Galactica. :o
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  • Chicharron
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    I lasted 5 minutes watching the stream. I couldn’t handle the cringy over the top crowd. Suck ups.

    You mean people who enjoy and love the game? Oh yeah, definitely cringy.

    Their enthusiasm just seemed so forced and cringy, and the way they were gut busting laughing at every dumb joke that was being made. Yeah, cringy suck ups.

    I laughed a lot too? Maybe you're just the different one. Insulting those people doesnt help your position any either.

    If you like cringy forced humour then more power to you. Not my thing though. By the looks of it I’m definitely not alone with that point of view. Maybe I’m not so different.

    Agree, 5 minutes were enough to close the transmission.

    I was there, everyone was pretty amped up honestly. It wasn't forced or anything. We were all just hyped and excited for the reveal.

    I didn't say it was fake.

    Seeing people who are moved to tears by a video game is not my thing.

    If you enjoyed the conference I am happy for you, it was done thinking about you guys.

    You will not invite someone who does not want to applaud and shout every 30 seconds at your conference.

    The audience werent invited, the event attendance was RSVP. The audience WANTED to be there.

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  • ArchMikem
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    Chicharron wrote: »
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    Chicharron wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    I lasted 5 minutes watching the stream. I couldn’t handle the cringy over the top crowd. Suck ups.

    You mean people who enjoy and love the game? Oh yeah, definitely cringy.

    Their enthusiasm just seemed so forced and cringy, and the way they were gut busting laughing at every dumb joke that was being made. Yeah, cringy suck ups.

    I laughed a lot too? Maybe you're just the different one. Insulting those people doesnt help your position any either.

    If you like cringy forced humour then more power to you. Not my thing though. By the looks of it I’m definitely not alone with that point of view. Maybe I’m not so different.

    Agree, 5 minutes were enough to close the transmission.

    I was there, everyone was pretty amped up honestly. It wasn't forced or anything. We were all just hyped and excited for the reveal.

    I didn't say it was fake.

    Seeing people who are moved to tears by a video game is not my thing.

    If you enjoyed the conference I am happy for you, it was done thinking about you guys.

    You will not invite someone who does not want to applaud and shout every 30 seconds at your conference.

    The audience werent invited, the event attendance was RSVP. The audience WANTED to be there.

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    You're using a dictionary definition to prove your opinion is true? RSVP as in people had to reserve their spot ahead of time, first come first served. It even said before the show on the ESO website that reservations were closed.
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  • OtarTheMad
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    Chicharron wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    I lasted 5 minutes watching the stream. I couldn’t handle the cringy over the top crowd. Suck ups.

    You mean people who enjoy and love the game? Oh yeah, definitely cringy.

    Their enthusiasm just seemed so forced and cringy, and the way they were gut busting laughing at every dumb joke that was being made. Yeah, cringy suck ups.

    I laughed a lot too? Maybe you're just the different one. Insulting those people doesnt help your position any either.

    If you like cringy forced humour then more power to you. Not my thing though. By the looks of it I’m definitely not alone with that point of view. Maybe I’m not so different.

    Agree, 5 minutes were enough to close the transmission.

    I was there, everyone was pretty amped up honestly. It wasn't forced or anything. We were all just hyped and excited for the reveal.

    I didn't say it was fake.

    Seeing people who are moved to tears by a video game is not my thing.

    If you enjoyed the conference I am happy for you, it was done thinking about you guys.

    You will not invite someone who does not want to applaud and shout every 30 seconds at your conference.

    The audience werent invited, the event attendance was RSVP. The audience WANTED to be there.

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    ZOS let us know where the event was happening and the people that went, including me, responded that we wanted to go. They even had a waiting list of people who wanted to come but responded too late. We all wanted to be there, we certainly didn't have to be. And not everyone was applauding everything honestly, it was a medium room and kind of echoed. Heck, I tuned out when they talked about trials and at some points during DLC dungeon talk.
  • Faulgor
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    ESO: Morrowind - oh, we're going back to the home of the Dunmer? That was my favourite game!
    ESO: Summerset - the Altmer province? that should be really interesting
    ESO: Elsweyr - ah, finally the road leads to warm sands!

    ESO: Greymoor - ????????????????

    How very very strange that they would chose this name as the title for their Skyrim chapter. The opportunity to milk their brand recognition, and they just don't use it? What's going on here? Are they afraid people are going to say "Oh they are re-releasing Skyrim again"?
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  • TheNuminous1
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    ESO: Morrowind - oh, we're going back to the home of the Dunmer? That was my favourite game!
    ESO: Summerset - the Altmer province? that should be really interesting
    ESO: Elsweyr - ah, finally the road leads to warm sands!

    ESO: Greymoor - ????????????????

    How very very strange that they would chose this name as the title for their Skyrim chapter. The opportunity to milk their brand recognition, and they just don't use it? What's going on here? Are they afraid people are going to say "Oh they are re-releasing Skyrim again"?

    You got it on the nose. To much confusion to announce skyrim again. Newcomers and people who dont know or care very much wont understand.
  • SantieClaws
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    So what do we actually know now that we did not have a good idea of before?

    This one will not be able to watch the event before lunchtime today at the earliest.

    This one knows these things are always low on the detail and big on the sparkle anyway but …

    Vampires?
    Lyris?
    Archeology?

    Nothing new for housing? No new class? No bards? Where are all the whistles and some of the bells?

    I mean a new place to visit is always nice of course but what to do when this one gets there?

    Yours with paws
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  • Siohwenoeht
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    So what do we actually know now that we did not have a good idea of before?

    This one will not be able to watch the event before lunchtime today at the earliest.

    This one knows these things are always low on the detail and big on the sparkle anyway but …

    Vampires?
    Lyris?
    Archeology?

    Nothing new for housing? No new class? No bards? Where are all the whistles and some of the bells?

    I mean a new place to visit is always nice of course but what to do when this one gets there?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    They didn't say anything about housing from what I understand, but I'm sure there's something, perhaps earnable like our rimmen abode. Two pseudo skill lines associated with the archeology and a re-do of the vampire skill line.

    New 1 piece gear as well.
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  • ArchMikem
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    So what do we actually know now that we did not have a good idea of before?

    This one will not be able to watch the event before lunchtime today at the earliest.

    This one knows these things are always low on the detail and big on the sparkle anyway but …

    Vampires?
    Lyris?
    Archeology?

    Nothing new for housing? No new class? No bards? Where are all the whistles and some of the bells?

    I mean a new place to visit is always nice of course but what to do when this one gets there?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Antiquities adds a bunch of new unique furnishing loot.
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  • SantieClaws
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    So what do we actually know now that we did not have a good idea of before?

    This one will not be able to watch the event before lunchtime today at the earliest.

    This one knows these things are always low on the detail and big on the sparkle anyway but …

    Vampires?
    Lyris?
    Archeology?

    Nothing new for housing? No new class? No bards? Where are all the whistles and some of the bells?

    I mean a new place to visit is always nice of course but what to do when this one gets there?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Antiquities adds a bunch of new unique furnishing loot.

    Yes so far that is the most interesting bit. However will it be like treasure maps? Daily quests? Will there be limits of one kind of another on how many of these things you can seek out?

    This one needs to know more she thinks.

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  • Neoealth
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    So what do we actually know now that we did not have a good idea of before?

    This one will not be able to watch the event before lunchtime today at the earliest.

    This one knows these things are always low on the detail and big on the sparkle anyway but …

    Vampires?
    Lyris?
    Archeology?

    Nothing new for housing? No new class? No bards? Where are all the whistles and some of the bells?

    I mean a new place to visit is always nice of course but what to do when this one gets there?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    They didn't mention anything about new fish, not even once. I was nearly as disappointed as you.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »

    You're using a dictionary definition to prove your opinion is true? RSVP as in people had to reserve their spot ahead of time, first come first served. It even said before the show on the ESO website that reservations were closed.

    Not taking sides here, in terms of the invited/non-invited status of the audience, but RSVP means Répondez S'il Vous Plaît.

    It's French for respond please and is added to an invitation.

    Even though RSVP looks a bit like it might have something to do with the word Reserve, it actually doesn't.

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    No 1h and rune.... :| unpleasant.
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    TheFM wrote: »
    The mythic items can augment your build quite dramatically, so there are quite a few possibilities with them.

    Do we really know? I mean they had two examples and running speed might be a nice gimmick but I hardly call it a dramatic change. Did they give more examples in the interviews afterwards?
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    delenn35 wrote: »
    Pauls wrote: »
    Ofc Lyris will be here, like Sai returned this year

    I've never seen Lyris in a cinematic trailer before... I think she looked like a blond Xena... in armour.

    I just thought Brienne of Tarth’s and Xena’s half sister was entering the battlefield when I saw her in the trailer.
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  • gepe87
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    Well, rip vampires passives.
    I excited about antiquities.

    I hope we can find dwemer, falmer and chimer!
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    Cries wrote: »
    I was laughing my ass off, they were asked about server performance and the guy starts talking about the LFG system completely dodging the question. :D

    LFG is tied directly to server performance. As I understand, it pretty much took down PC EU at the height of its misbehavior.
    Faulgor wrote: »
    How very very strange that they would chose this name as the title for their Skyrim chapter. The opportunity to milk their brand recognition, and they just don't use it? What's going on here? Are they afraid people are going to say "Oh they are re-releasing Skyrim again"?

    I expected them to use Skyrim, just out of convention. I think you are right, though. The release of ESO:Morrowind dredged up the expectation that ZOS would re-create the TES 3 game world, which is idolized. TES 5 is much bigger, on the idolization scale, and that locks ZOS into a particular pattern. ZOS wants to do their own thing, not be creating sequels. Skyrim in the title brings all that TES 5 baggage. I get it, and the Greymoor name makes sense, given what I saw last night.
    Nothing new for housing? No new class? No bards? Where are all the whistles and some of the bells?

    The bells and whistles this time are a new system for exploration. It is a non-combat system, which has been compared to Housing. The comparison is in the sense of it being an activity that you can do on the side, any time you want, at your own speed and with your own goals. I expect that this was chosen for the release because there is a sizable population in the game that is the target audience. This would include me, and it has been a long time since I felt that I was near the bullseye of an ESO system. (and did not feel like I was directly feeding the ZOS bank account when I used it)

    That system will include discoverable account-bound artifacts, which will include new housing items. It will also include a new mount and some special "mythic" gear, of which only one may be equipped at a time.



    Edited by Elsonso on January 17, 2020 1:50PM
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    Lauranae wrote: »
    so i killed Lyris at the end of the chapter, how do they explain her to come back ?

    I think in terms of official lore, the prophet is the one that was sacrificed at the end. Most fitting really.
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  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Nothing on PvP. The new treasure hunting sounds boring, but you're going to have to do it in order to remain competitive. Not seeing a reason to log back in. Guess I'll have to wait until the patch notes in order to see how they change the game.

    Why? From my understanding it's just lore related finds.

    Reward from it include mythic gear and a new sieage weapon
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    hamgatan wrote: »
    Any mention of a trial or anything for endgame?

    4 person trial like BRP. Called Kind Aegis or something..

    Edit : Kynes Aegis as Mikem said above

    Ita a 12 p trial
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Skyrim and all that snow... And not even a fix to ice staves... I was holding my hopes at least for that but no...

    There's a new artifact grind and I sure as hell bet there's gonna be some terrible "ingredient" that will make jewlery grind a child's play, you'll see.

    Those "mini games" will be totally RNG based and your chance of getting cool stuff will be affected by the ingredient consumption, and I sure bet there's gonna be Crown Store "convinience" items that will boost your odds.

    That's my bet, but I hope to be wrong because last night event was with no doubt a display of ZOS's financial health.
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  • January1171
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    Chicharron wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    I lasted 5 minutes watching the stream. I couldn’t handle the cringy over the top crowd. Suck ups.

    You mean people who enjoy and love the game? Oh yeah, definitely cringy.

    Their enthusiasm just seemed so forced and cringy, and the way they were gut busting laughing at every dumb joke that was being made. Yeah, cringy suck ups.

    I laughed a lot too? Maybe you're just the different one. Insulting those people doesnt help your position any either.

    If you like cringy forced humour then more power to you. Not my thing though. By the looks of it I’m definitely not alone with that point of view. Maybe I’m not so different.

    Agree, 5 minutes were enough to close the transmission.

    I was there, everyone was pretty amped up honestly. It wasn't forced or anything. We were all just hyped and excited for the reveal.

    I didn't say it was fake.

    Seeing people who are moved to tears by a video game is not my thing.

    If you enjoyed the conference I am happy for you, it was done thinking about you guys.

    You will not invite someone who does not want to applaud and shout every 30 seconds at your conference.

    The audience werent invited, the event attendance was RSVP. The audience WANTED to be there.

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    Yeah- they invited the entire ESO community
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57313
    For this event, we’re inviting the ESO community to be part of the live audience for the announce stream, enjoy an amazing post-announcement meetup with the devs, claim exclusive ESO swag, and more!
    Anyone who wanted to rsvp could. People who absolutely hate the game could have gone. People who only kindof like the game could have gone. It wasn't an exclusive list of people that were invited.
  • asuitandtyb14_ESO
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    Chicharron wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Chicharron wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    I lasted 5 minutes watching the stream. I couldn’t handle the cringy over the top crowd. Suck ups.

    You mean people who enjoy and love the game? Oh yeah, definitely cringy.

    Their enthusiasm just seemed so forced and cringy, and the way they were gut busting laughing at every dumb joke that was being made. Yeah, cringy suck ups.

    I laughed a lot too? Maybe you're just the different one. Insulting those people doesnt help your position any either.

    If you like cringy forced humour then more power to you. Not my thing though. By the looks of it I’m definitely not alone with that point of view. Maybe I’m not so different.

    Agree, 5 minutes were enough to close the transmission.

    I was there, everyone was pretty amped up honestly. It wasn't forced or anything. We were all just hyped and excited for the reveal.

    I didn't say it was fake.

    Seeing people who are moved to tears by a video game is not my thing.

    If you enjoyed the conference I am happy for you, it was done thinking about you guys.

    You will not invite someone who does not want to applaud and shout every 30 seconds at your conference.

    The audience werent invited, the event attendance was RSVP. The audience WANTED to be there.

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    Yeah- they invited the entire ESO community
    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57313
    For this event, we’re inviting the ESO community to be part of the live audience for the announce stream, enjoy an amazing post-announcement meetup with the devs, claim exclusive ESO swag, and more!
    Anyone who wanted to rsvp could. People who absolutely hate the game could have gone. People who only kindof like the game could have gone. It wasn't an exclusive list of people that were invited.

    If we say you win, can you let it go now?
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