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Data mined notes
ZeroAlmanic
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In alot of Pvp band chats I'm in these notes have been flying around everywhere the past 48 hours can anyone who data mines confirm these? If these are true it looks like PvP is going to high damage meta again 
hope this is true something new.
So next patch (supposedly) flame lash will have an execute, so when powerlash is procced it’ll deal x damage and heal as intended but now it’ll scale the damage depending on someone’s missing health, both dk leaps will set enemy off balance for 8 seconds after the stun and apply minor defile for 3 seconds depending on the morph and have a 63% damage increase, engulfing flames no longer scales with spell damage and will apply a more aggressive aoe and increase all flame damage by 23%. Jabs (any morph) will no longer stun the enemy but the 3rd consecutive jab will have increased damage based on missing health and crescent sweep will cost 120 ultimate but will have a 63% damage increase, bone colossus will no longer apply manor vulnerability only till the enemy is hit on the final blow, graveyard will have a 35% damage increase and apply defile to anyone in the aoe for 3 seconds after synergie is activated, incap (both morphs) will have a 32% damage increase and will now heal you for 100% of the damage caused, lotus fan will get a 32% damage increase and the bow will get a 24% damage nerf, sorcs basically have a damage increase of all skills from 23% all the way up to 63% and the atro ulti now apples minor maim and minor defile for 3 seconds while active, warden beetles gets a 32% damage increase and vines get a 43% healing buff, perma frost will apply minor defile while active and will get a 42% damage increase
hope this is true something new.So next patch (supposedly) flame lash will have an execute, so when powerlash is procced it’ll deal x damage and heal as intended but now it’ll scale the damage depending on someone’s missing health, both dk leaps will set enemy off balance for 8 seconds after the stun and apply minor defile for 3 seconds depending on the morph and have a 63% damage increase, engulfing flames no longer scales with spell damage and will apply a more aggressive aoe and increase all flame damage by 23%. Jabs (any morph) will no longer stun the enemy but the 3rd consecutive jab will have increased damage based on missing health and crescent sweep will cost 120 ultimate but will have a 63% damage increase, bone colossus will no longer apply manor vulnerability only till the enemy is hit on the final blow, graveyard will have a 35% damage increase and apply defile to anyone in the aoe for 3 seconds after synergie is activated, incap (both morphs) will have a 32% damage increase and will now heal you for 100% of the damage caused, lotus fan will get a 32% damage increase and the bow will get a 24% damage nerf, sorcs basically have a damage increase of all skills from 23% all the way up to 63% and the atro ulti now apples minor maim and minor defile for 3 seconds while active, warden beetles gets a 32% damage increase and vines get a 43% healing buff, perma frost will apply minor defile while active and will get a 42% damage increase
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nafensoriel✭✭✭✭✭99.9% of the time anything you see about abilities is straight-up fake.
The clients we actually use do not generally have the current "working code" that the devs see on a daily basis.
Even if said data was inside of the released client it will be as old as "last patch day+time to current day" and thus entirely out of date.18 -
BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭These stuff sounds too fishy to be true, especially after reading the jabs part.Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.19 -
Rianai✭✭✭✭✭
✭All classes get huge dmg buffs, and NB are the only ones with dmg nerfs? Seems legit.13 -
shimm✭✭✭✭✭BaiterOfZergs wrote: »These stuff sounds too fishy to be true, especially after reading the jabs part.
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ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Believe nothing until it's patch notes. But if these do come true, I'm guessing they'll shut down the program where they give certain players better access to Dev notes and what not. This would be the second (third?) time patch notes and what not were leaked before they were finalized and released. NDAs exist for a reason.16 -
Joinovikova✭✭✭✭ZeroAlmanic wrote: »In alot of Pvp band chats I'm in these notes have been flying around everywhere the past 48 hours can anyone who data mines confirm these? If these are true it looks like PvP is going to high damage meta again hope this is true something new.
So next patch (supposedly) flame lash will have an execute, so when powerlash is procced it’ll deal x damage and heal as intended but now it’ll scale the damage depending on someone’s missing health, both dk leaps will set enemy off balance for 8 seconds after the stun and apply minor defile for 3 seconds depending on the morph and have a 63% damage increase, engulfing flames no longer scales with spell damage and will apply a more aggressive aoe and increase all flame damage by 23%. Jabs (any morph) will no longer stun the enemy but the 3rd consecutive jab will have increased damage based on missing health and crescent sweep will cost 120 ultimate but will have a 63% damage increase, bone colossus will no longer apply manor vulnerability only till the enemy is hit on the final blow, graveyard will have a 35% damage increase and apply defile to anyone in the aoe for 3 seconds after synergie is activated, incap (both morphs) will have a 32% damage increase and will now heal you for 100% of the damage caused, lotus fan will get a 32% damage increase and the bow will get a 24% damage nerf, sorcs basically have a damage increase of all skills from 23% all the way up to 63% and the atro ulti now apples minor maim and minor defile for 3 seconds while active, warden beetles gets a 32% damage increase and vines get a 43% healing buff, perma frost will apply minor defile while active and will get a 42% damage increase
If this changes go live the pvp will not be high damage meta
just meta with pure max resistance and maintaing high dps. Some skills like " perma frost will apply minor defile while active and will get a 42% damage increase" will be now one button *** off .. they should hit tank meta by reduce resistance affect health regen by battle spirit.. 0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tbh. if this is true, none of the NB changes op mentioned will help, as long as we have cast times.
NB lacks burst combo because of that, not because dmg is too low.
Also, heal for 100% of the damage caused is useless on a 120 cost ULT. NB lacks burst heal, because the one that NB has currently (Grim Focus & morphs) is VERY unreliable as if target roll-dodges the bow - there is no dmg & healing (heal is weak to begin with vs effort you have to put into it imho).2 -
Haquor✭✭✭✭✭Those damage increases are insane. Dont know how they could be true. But my mahedk main just got a *** anyway.0
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Czekoludek✭✭✭✭✭
✭If this would be true I must Ask, how I can play nightblade dd in "play whatever you like" era? I mean nerf to bow would be probably the end of already weak blades, they would be useful only for 25% of fight time1 -
BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭BaiterOfZergs wrote: »These stuff sounds too fishy to be true, especially after reading the jabs part.
Agreed, jabs hardly needs an execute!
It’s not even that part, jabs haven’t been able to stun in years.
Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.11 -
goldenarcher1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭witchdoctor wrote: »Thus it begins.
As the Shadow of the Expansion grows, so too will the rumour.
Indeed,let the games begin!
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Unseelie✭✭✭✭I have always thought that it was disappointing that ESO and other games do not have something as well put together as wowhead for that other game.
I would take any data mining with a huge bit of salt right now. This reminds me alot of not long ago when people were raging about a rumor concerning add ons being blocked.1 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Just to make this clear, DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS PATCH NOTES
People were saying the same thing last time when the potes were leaked in August. And everyone was also saying that those are crazy and can't be true...
Funny how that turned out.6 -
colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Half the changes have zero sense even from zos standpoint so can't view it as legit.5 -
Czekoludek✭✭✭✭✭
✭colossalvoids wrote: »Half the changes have zero sense even from zos standpoint so can't view it as legit.
Like buffing dots like crazy just to nerf them to the ground in next PTS? Yeah, clearly ZoS wouldn't do such stupid thing13 -
ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Just to make this clear, DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS PATCH NOTES
People were saying the same thing last time when the potes were leaked in August. And everyone was also saying that those are crazy and can't be true...
Funny how that turned out.
Yes, I'm aware. And when the patch notes are released and if they match these, then do what you wish. But as I said in my previous post, expect ZOS to end all work with the Class Rep program because the people they bring in, if true, can't be trusted.2 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Definitely fake. Those notes make no sense.ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Just to make this clear, DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS PATCH NOTES
People were saying the same thing last time when the potes were leaked in August. And everyone was also saying that those are crazy and can't be true...
Funny how that turned out.
Yes, I'm aware. And when the patch notes are released and if they match these, then do what you wish. But as I said in my previous post, expect ZOS to end all work with the Class Rep program because the people they bring in, if true, can't be trusted.
I argued with them in their tier lists thread about rankings. Supposedly stamblade is top tier along with stamwarden, I argued it was stamtemplar and Magsorc. They also had DK mid-low across the board. They might just not know any better.Edited by Iskiab on January 12, 2020 10:02PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Just to make this clear, DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS PATCH NOTES
People were saying the same thing last time when the potes were leaked in August. And everyone was also saying that those are crazy and can't be true...
Funny how that turned out.
Yes, I'm aware. And when the patch notes are released and if they match these, then do what you wish. But as I said in my previous post, expect ZOS to end all work with the Class Rep program because the people they bring in, if true, can't be trusted.
I think the program was pretty much dead after the first leak already. Last time we heard anything about it was when the update list of reps was announced after the whole debacle. Not a peek since.
I agree that being skeptical about any leak is a good idea but there is nothing too crazy in the list OP has posted so it's either a cleverly done fake or this might indeed be real. We already have a precedent.2 -
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I think the program was pretty much dead after the first leak already. Last time we heard anything about it was when the update list of reps was announced after the whole debacle. Not a peek since.
I agree that being skeptical about any leak is a good idea but there is nothing too crazy in the list OP has posted so it's either a cleverly done fake or this might indeed be real. We already have a precedent.
There is one inconsistency. Jabs (either Morph) isnt the Name of the base ability, which would likely appear if it was a universal Change and more importantly neither of These Morphs actually stuns since many years so there is no stun to take away which apparently happens next patch.
Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.1 -
Raisin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When people can't give you a proper source, that's just shady.Edited by Raisin on January 12, 2020 10:28PM5 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sanguinor2 wrote: »
I think the program was pretty much dead after the first leak already. Last time we heard anything about it was when the update list of reps was announced after the whole debacle. Not a peek since.
I agree that being skeptical about any leak is a good idea but there is nothing too crazy in the list OP has posted so it's either a cleverly done fake or this might indeed be real. We already have a precedent.
There is one inconsistency. Jabs (either Morph) isnt the Name of the base ability, which would likely appear if it was a universal Change and more importantly neither of These Morphs actually stuns since many years so there is no stun to take away which apparently happens next patch.
The post is paraphrased so using "jabs" seems pretty normal to me. Nice catch on the stun inconsistency though.1 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
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The post is paraphrased so using "jabs" seems pretty normal to me. Nice catch on the stun inconsistency though.
True on the Name Thing. But the stun really stands out, does anyone really believe that Wheeler (templar player) doesnt know what Jabs do?Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think it’d be pretty hilarious if it was true actually. Hard to say with paraphrased notes which class would come off best.
I’m thinking a 4 team of petsorcs would be unbeatable. If you can’t heal the damage, line of sight it and kill anything that comes close.Edited by Iskiab on January 12, 2020 10:07PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sanguinor2 wrote: »
I doubt Wheeler is the guy to write patch notes or any other pre-release version of them.
Might be something the person doing the fake has overlooked. Might be just a text mistake that could've crawled in at any point between OP starting this thread and people sharing rumours through Discord based on some initial post. Too many variables to make a good guess one way or another.
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ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sanguinor2 wrote: »
I doubt Wheeler is the guy to write patch notes or any other pre-release version of them.
Might be something the person doing the fake has overlooked. Might be just a text mistake that could've crawled in at any point between OP starting this thread and people sharing rumours through Discord based on some initial post. Too many variables to make a good guess one way or another.
Agreed, likely someone else on the combat team compiles the changes and notes. And changes have been missed in official patch notes before. With everything being second hand, likely somethings are being missed since initial leak. True or false, whisper down the lane style leaks get skewed.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Believe nothing until it's patch notes. But if these do come true, I'm guessing they'll shut down the program where they give certain players better access to Dev notes and what not. This would be the second (third?) time patch notes and what not were leaked before they were finalized and released. NDAs exist for a reason.
Yeah honestly I do not understand these leakers. Dataminers are different, they weren’t granted access and insights, they puzzle the pieces together by themselves.
But what havoc the leaks of last years Q3 update caused... man.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
Czekoludek✭✭✭✭✭
✭Definitely fake. Those notes make no sense.ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »Just to make this clear, DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS PATCH NOTES
People were saying the same thing last time when the potes were leaked in August. And everyone was also saying that those are crazy and can't be true...
Funny how that turned out.
Yes, I'm aware. And when the patch notes are released and if they match these, then do what you wish. But as I said in my previous post, expect ZOS to end all work with the Class Rep program because the people they bring in, if true, can't be trusted.
I argued with them in their tier lists thread about rankings. Supposedly stamblade is top tier along with stamwarden, I argued it was stamtemplar and Magsorc. They also had DK mid-low across the board. They might just not know any better.
I think the best PvP ranking, at least for solo PvP was created by @Ist3reno1else. Pretty good, wish someone from ZOS would check it on his channel0
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