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Allow Guild Bank to be Stacked

spartaxoxo
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By anyone with withdraw permissions. There is no good reason it shouldn't stack duplicate items.
  • Nestor
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    They used to have this, but a Duplicating bug occured and it pretty much wrecked the economy for a short period of time.

    There is a client side PC addon that does this. But it just automates the operation of withdrawing, stacking and depositing again.
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  • zvavi
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    Nestor wrote: »
    They used to have this, but a Duplicating bug occured and it pretty much wrecked the economy for a short period of time.

    There is a client side PC addon that does this. But it just automates the operation of withdrawing, stacking and depositing again.

    You forgot the part of waiting on previous requests and ending up with some of the items in your inventory
  • spartaxoxo
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    Nestor wrote: »
    They used to have this, but a Duplicating bug occured and it pretty much wrecked the economy for a short period of time.

    There is a client side PC addon that does this. But it just automates the operation of withdrawing, stacking and depositing again.

    That's sad :(
  • weedgenius
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    zvavi wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    They used to have this, but a Duplicating bug occured and it pretty much wrecked the economy for a short period of time.

    There is a client side PC addon that does this. But it just automates the operation of withdrawing, stacking and depositing again.

    You forgot the part of waiting on previous requests and ending up with some of the items in your inventory

    This happens to be on PS4 when trying to do it manually. It does suck that they haven't made improvements in this area. Having to designate a moderator to be the "bank stacker" is kinda sad.
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  • unchainedzulu
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    yeah.... but can we at least stack the rune-boxes please?
  • Gythral
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    Nestor wrote: »
    They used to have this, but a Duplicating bug occured and it pretty much wrecked the economy for a short period of time.

    There is a client side PC addon that does this. But it just automates the operation of withdrawing, stacking and depositing again.

    All it does most days it withdraw 1 item, then the server ignores it with 'Waiting on previous request' for ages, but hey this is ZOS' penny pinching at it's best
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    break the server responding to use of their code
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  • SeaGtGruff
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    I'm in one EU guild where everyone has withdraw permission. I know that can be asking for an unscrupulous player to come along and clean out the bank-- that happened in one of the NA guilds I'm in-- but it's great as long as everyone plays nice.

    Anyway, before I deposit anything (usually recipes, blueprints, etc.), I check to see if it's already in there. If it is, I withdraw it, stack my items, then deposit it. And if I see any unstacked items, I withdraw them, stack them, and deposit them.

    It's a right royal pain in the posterior, but it seems like the only way to keep unstacked items to a minimum is to let the guild members stack items as they deposit them-- and pray that everyone is honest and trustworthy.
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  • PopotoSalad
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    I'm unofficial re-stacker for a couple of my guilds, cleaning up the banks a few times per day. It would certainly be easier if items could be stacked as deposited.
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    Waiting on previous request drives me berzerk.
  • spartaxoxo
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Waiting on previous request drives me berzerk.

    Same. This process is very aggravating and really user unfriendly.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Waiting on previous request drives me berzerk.

    Same. This process is very aggravating and really user unfriendly.

    I can understand that it will occur, but I think it would be less aggravating if a message were displayed to let you know the previous request had finally been processed. Instead, you usually have sit there trying again and getting the message again until you finally don't get the message again.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Waiting on previous request drives me berzerk.

    Same. This process is very aggravating and really user unfriendly.

    I can understand that it will occur, but I think it would be less aggravating if a message were displayed to let you know the previous request had finally been processed. Instead, you usually have sit there trying again and getting the message again until you finally don't get the message again.

    Yeah. Something, anything to make guild banks less frustrating.
  • Ithilis
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    Well, I hate people who take the whole stack and "dont know how" or "forgot" to put it back.
    Can I have "Withdraw 1 from stack" option instead of having to take the whole pile?
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  • chess1ukb16_ESO
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I'm in one EU guild where everyone has withdraw permission. I know that can be asking for an unscrupulous player to come along and clean out the bank-- that happened in one of the NA guilds I'm in-- but it's great as long as everyone plays nice.

    Anyway, before I deposit anything (usually recipes, blueprints, etc.), I check to see if it's already in there. If it is, I withdraw it, stack my items, then deposit it. And if I see any unstacked items, I withdraw them, stack them, and deposit them.

    It's a right royal pain in the posterior, but it seems like the only way to keep unstacked items to a minimum is to let the guild members stack items as they deposit them-- and pray that everyone is honest and trustworthy.

    Letting everyone have access to withdraw from a guild bank is naive unless it is with people you know very well. If its a guild that accepts random requests from the guild finder it's terrible. Every week someone sends me a note about another guild bank that got wiped out by such and such and can we add such and such to our ban list.

    Of course, for a AAA MMO that has been out this long we should have basic permissions allowing GM's to section/tab off parts of the guild bank for high-value items and/or restrict amount ordinary members can take out in a given time period (1 day),
    Edited by chess1ukb16_ESO on January 14, 2020 12:56PM
  • ghastley
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    I'm sure it could be re-implemented the way the add-on does it. Pull the individual items, combine in player inventory and replace as single stack. It would require withdrawing privilege that way, but just giving the re-stacker some automation on console platforms would be appreciated, wouldn't it?
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Nestor wrote: »
    They used to have this, but a Duplicating bug occured and it pretty much wrecked the economy for a short period of time.

    There is a client side PC addon that does this. But it just automates the operation of withdrawing, stacking and depositing again.

    So the guild bank being non stacking is just a cheap dirty workaround? Cool. Not.
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Waiting on previous request drives me berzerk.

    Tell me one person who would not stir their IRL banker's teeth if they would say that all day. :D
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    ghastley wrote: »
    I'm sure it could be re-implemented the way the add-on does it. Pull the individual items, combine in player inventory and replace as single stack. It would require withdrawing privilege that way, but just giving the re-stacker some automation on console platforms would be appreciated, wouldn't it?

    Right? This might be a good workaround. Alternatively maybe they could disable the function to stack items yourself but let the GB stack items automatically? I don't know. But attention should be paid to this feature.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    They would just need to make guild bank inaccessible during the stacking process, i cant believe they lack basic creativity. :D
  • DustyWarehouse
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    As a guild officer who looks after the guild bank, I get frustrated at the general lack of features of guild bank. Addons alleviate somewhat the stacking problem, but it's not where it should be for a 5 year old AAA MMO.

    I put the following wishlist together a while ago, and some of these points have been mentioned in this thread already. But here it is if anyone wants to pick it apart or add to it:

    Daily item withdrawal/deposit limits
    Allow guildmasters/officers (or add a rank privilege) to set the maximum amount of items a guild member may withdraw/deposit in a set time period. This is primarily to prevent malicious players from emptying the guild bank, but also to keep bank management easy for guildmasters/officers. Stacked non-material items should be treated as multiple transactions, to avoid a whole stack being taken. The time period could also be configurable, with options such as 1 hour, 6 hours, 12, 24 etc.
    This limit shouldn't apply to those who have the ability to set the limit (i.e., guildmasters, officers).

    Control over deposit-able items
    Despite adding notes in the message of the day, we often see lots of "junk" being added to the bank that we'd rather not have deposited. Being able to control the types of item that is deposited would be a great improvement and reduce the amount of tidying required.
    Guildmasters should be in control over this config, but a rank privilege would be welcome here as well.

    Single item withdrawals
    This pertains to stacked items. We see cases where a guild member has taken a stack of recipes but didn't return the rest of the stack after using one. Allowing items to be fetched one at a time, stack splitting (as in personal guild banks and inventories), or a dialog to ask the player how many they want to take would be a welcome improvement.

    Item stacking
    We use an addon to mitigate this problem on PC, but it would be great if we could have in the base game a "Stack All Items" option like we do in our own personal banks and inventories. This would make life much easier for guildmasters on console who do not have access to addons.

    "Waiting on previous request."
    This is an annoyance when doing item maintenance, particularly because we have to remove, stack, and re-add items to the bank (the above suggestion would mitigate this somewhat). I'm guessing the guild bank game system is different to the personal player bank, but whatever the reason, we'd appreciate some insight into why this is the way it is and if anything can be done to improve it.
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