BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

Would just hurt the people outnumbered more, sure there will be scenarios where it benefits you but in most cases it’ll just hurt you. Plus, it’s nothing that’s going to stop those players from going into turtle mode until they get the res. Those types of players always adapt.

I mean I only play solo so it wont hurt me personally lol but im sure most small groups or duos just throw up camps anyway

I like that people play this way.

Iskiab wrote: »

Until they fix cyrodiil lag people will continue to exploit it. When you’re against 60+ your skills stop working so people are faction stacking.

It’s the number 1 issue in cyrodiil right now. Those people will go down once the game’s fixed easily enough, but performance is making it impossible.

Rezing isn’t that much of an issue tbh.

Ressing isn't much of an issue? That entire clip those guys weren't even fighting half the time, just standing and ressing. When people spend half their time spamming ressing while PvPing theres clearly an issue with it.

I find ressing exceeds even packing up siege as likeliest activity to result in my death. Still do it, but I think the limit to resses lies in strategy, not a cooldown. If they're ressing each other, your group isn't focusing on interrupting them. It takes a long time for that circle to fill, during which the resser is pretty vulnerable.

heavier wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

I mean I only play solo

seems like people ITT want res to be nerfed to the point where their 1vX fantasies are more fulfilling

I wouldn't mind the introduction of a skill that temporarily plagues corpses so they take 50% longer to res and nothing else just so
1) people stop complaining
2) people waste a slot with this ability
cleansable ofc.

There's nothing more I like than a challenge when it comes to 1vX, but when you are forced to waste your stam over and over again to keep someone from ressing then there's a problem. There needs to be something put in place to punish people who have been constantly interrupted

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

Would just hurt the people outnumbered more, sure there will be scenarios where it benefits you but in most cases it’ll just hurt you. Plus, it’s nothing that’s going to stop those players from going into turtle mode until they get the res. Those types of players always adapt.

If you are outnumbered and one of you goes down you don't get a chance to revive them. Theres no standing for the 6s reviving without consquence when being zerged.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

Would just hurt the people outnumbered more, sure there will be scenarios where it benefits you but in most cases it’ll just hurt you. Plus, it’s nothing that’s going to stop those players from going into turtle mode until they get the res. Those types of players always adapt.

If you are outnumbered and one of you goes down you don't get a chance to revive them. Theres no standing for the 6s reviving without consquence when being zerged.

I’ve revived people plenty of times when having multiple people chase me around.

I’ve always found someone rezing people to be one of the juiciest targets. That ball group Drac does this really well, they keep going back to the scene of the crime and wipe rezers.

If someone’s just getting their feet wet in pvp or maybe they’re a bit older so lack the twitch in pvp to do well it’s a good way for them to contribute. With that being said I can see how if you’re not a NB it would be annoying if you’re 1vX.

I mean, if you acknowledge that the person you’re fighting is a great player and you’re not going to be able to take them out, it’s probably the pvp spec that makes the most sense.

Xvorg wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

This clip perfectly sums up about 80% of the population in cyrodiil xD
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/zdan/video/84835499
Simply high health healers and tanks that are terrified to die and as soon as one person from their group drops they all swarm to res them back up and kill you with numbers.
There's probably been multiple posts about battle res but has anything been said on it from ZOS?

No.

I paid for the game to play it, not to see the game as espectator every time I die.

If coordination is an offender for you, I suggest you to try single player games as Skyrim or Witcher III

Now, if you want to avoid mass ressing, just limit the amount of soul gems carried from 100 to 10~20

I paid for the game to have fun fights, not bash resses from healbots and tanks every 5 seconds.

It hardly takes much coordination for 5+ people to swarm around a body gagging for a res

Xvorg wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

This clip perfectly sums up about 80% of the population in cyrodiil xD
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/zdan/video/84835499
Simply high health healers and tanks that are terrified to die and as soon as one person from their group drops they all swarm to res them back up and kill you with numbers.
There's probably been multiple posts about battle res but has anything been said on it from ZOS?

No.

I paid for the game to play it, not to see the game as espectator every time I die.

If coordination is an offender for you, I suggest you to try single player games as Skyrim or Witcher III

Now, if you want to avoid mass ressing, just limit the amount of soul gems carried from 100 to 10~20

I paid for the game to have fun fights, not bash resses from healbots and tanks every 5 seconds.

It hardly takes much coordination for 5+ people to swarm around a body gagging for a res

That's what the game allows you to do.

Imagine this, limiting ress and an enemy NB around targetting recently ressed guys... fair?

Imho limitiong the amount of soul gems carried solves your problem much better than adding a stupid CD

Whether it be a cooldown, damage increase on ressers or even a soul gem cap. I just wish there was something implemented to avoid annoying healbots whose only job it is, is to res. Makes it super annoying when fighting outnumbered

zDan wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

zDan wrote: »

This clip perfectly sums up about 80% of the population in cyrodiil xD
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/zdan/video/84835499
Simply high health healers and tanks that are terrified to die and as soon as one person from their group drops they all swarm to res them back up and kill you with numbers.
There's probably been multiple posts about battle res but has anything been said on it from ZOS?

No.

I paid for the game to play it, not to see the game as espectator every time I die.

If coordination is an offender for you, I suggest you to try single player games as Skyrim or Witcher III

Now, if you want to avoid mass ressing, just limit the amount of soul gems carried from 100 to 10~20

I paid for the game to have fun fights, not bash resses from healbots and tanks every 5 seconds.

It hardly takes much coordination for 5+ people to swarm around a body gagging for a res

That's what the game alldifferently.i .

Imagine this, limiting ress and an enemy NB around targetting recently ressed guys... fair?

Imho limitiong the amount of soul gems carried solves your problem much better than adding a stupid CD

Whether it be a cooldown, damage increase on ressers or even a soul gem cap. I just wish there was something implemented to avoid annoying healbots whose only job it is, is to res. Makes it super annoying when fighting outnumbered

It is super annoying when fighting outnumbered. That's as true for the 1 fighting X, a small group fighting a zerg, or a ball group fighting a faction stack. You kill people, move on to the next target, and then groan a little with the realization of "they're rezzing behind me/us".

I'm just not convinced that annoyance means it needs to change. Cyrodiil is primarily designed for large scale combat and groups of 2 to 24 players. Cyrodiil simply does not cater to players who fight outnumbered, whether that's 1vX, small scale vs large scale, or large group vs faction stack. Cyrodiil allows skilled players and organized groups to overcome much larger numbers through good tactics and teamwork...but those larger numbers have their own advantages. One of those is that they have a better chance of rezzing or setting up a rez camp when/where you or your outnumbered group can't immediately punish them for doing so.

I'm struggling with these requests because it strikes me as wanting to have one's cake and eat it too. "I want all the fun of fighting outnumbered AND less of the problems of fighting outnumbered, so ZOS if you could just restrict my opponents' ability to recover after I've killed some of their allies that would be great!" That's not how ZOS has balanced outnumbered fights in the past, and they've nerfed 1vX on multiple occasions.

And don't get me wrong - as someone who likes to play in an organized raid, making it harder for players to battle-rez would largely work in our favor. Rezzing would be harder, but organized raids will always adapt much as they have to every single other nerf. Most good raids are going to be better at protecting their rezzers, have more players with which to rez in the first place, and are better at killing than most of their smaller or larger but less organized opponents who now would have an even harder time recovering from the raid's attacks. Which is another reason I'm not sure that rez changes are needed. Do large organized groups really need ZOS to give them another relative advantage?