Unless the group is totally hopless normal dungeons don't need healers, at least in my experience. I ran some dungeons on my low level toons with dps only groups and we managed just fine as long as we kept together and followed the mechanics.

This is common behavior to get shorter ques, events like the current one only increase the frequency. I honestly expect it, and so am not disappointed when it happens.

I know it is frustrating through. This event I have been playing only normal dungeons so that it does not really matter.

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

experienced dds wont die xD

Unless you're rushing through a vet dungeon pulling all the trash because you trust the healer hast he group's back, stack everything on the boss and the fake healer is first to die, because obviously the tank isn't going to taunt 15+ trash mobs, nor should they, so the dds need to spam shields through block and damage until they're out of resources because no buffs or orbs either... get the picture? If you queue as healer, ffs just heal. Want to run a 3 or 4 dd group? That's perfectly ok, but don't use group finder.

Most non-DLC vet dungeons don’t need a healer. I say this as someone who has three pure healer toons in the stable. Even a half competent group is better off with 3 dps + tank.

Meh, a lot of people are playing their alts for undaunted xp. My new 50 only has skill level 42 in resto staff and no orbs.

If someone’s a fake healer with no resto staff they’re an idiot. If someone’s using a resto then I think it’s okay.

Shot through the heart,
Fake healer to blame
They give healers
A bad name, bad name

You play your part,
But they play "their way"
They don't respect
The role game, role game

You don’t need a healer for non-dlc dungeons, ESPECIALLY if it’s a normal dungeon. If you need one on normal there’s something very wrong.

I don’t even bring my healer into a normal dungeon because I feel totally useless.. because guess what. You don’t need a healer on normal.

Fake DPS in veteran is the real issue. I’m looking at you somehow squishy nightblade wearing ebon, only light attacking in the back.

Also I’m tired of people trying to vote kick lowlevels from normal before the dungeon starts. I vote no always. And no, the ebon nightblade wasn’t kicked.

What do you mean slotting echoing vigor doesn’t make me a healer :0

It depends on what you mean. Clearly there are people (even in this thread) who admit to being fake healers. There are also people who go around calling people "fake healers" because they don't perform the role precisely as that person sees as ideal, even when they are sincerely trying.

I very rarely jump into dungeons, but when I do, it's always as a healer. I wouldn't say I'm the greatest. But no one's ever died, I've never died, and we always make it to the end. Depending on the group composition, most of that may be down to the other players, but I think overall I've helped more than I've hurt. I'm by no means the most experienced or expert, but I have my resto staff and try to use a mix of abilities, depending on the alt, to create damage shields, remove harmful effects, do instant heals and heal over time. I also try to keep up as best I can, though sometimes I'm slow (hello, healer, my stamina is lower than yours, even when I'm eating a tri-stat meal beforehand), and for some reason I always find the layout in Crypt of Hearts confusing... and yes, there's often that one person who just has to run ahead of the group.I also try to stand back a little ways so that I'm out of the red ( can't heal if I'm dead!) and so that everyone is in my field of view as much as possible so my heals will reach them.

Nonetheless, it's very clear that most people are grateful, or at least polite, but there's often someone who just can't be pleased. I've had people whisper me because they want me to contribute more to dps, and I've had other people whisper me because they don't want me to contribute at all to dps... all within same-ish normal mode dungeons. (My personal philosophy is that I try to contribute to damage where I can, while always keeping a primary focus on healing.)

Can SOME of the non dlc dungepns be done ,and may be better with 3 DPS+ a tankj.?

True, but ONLY under certain conditions.

1) The fundamental one If all the people who queued in his fair role agrees BEFORE to start teh run- this opens the central question. If you´re respecting the people who took his time to wait the queue.
Tell me before to start the first pull of mobs "GUys, i´m a dps..Can you equip aself heal and we go faster?" A 99 of the times i will agree.
But hear me well, and remeber my name, because if you are thinking in fakeheal or faketank a dungeon via "Consumate facts", and letting me to guess you are not what you are supposed, and i will make sure you revceive a relentless Kick, if i can, or at least i will make sure this dungeon is far more slow than if you queued. Or i will quit the team, so you will have lo wait for another dps.
There is NO EXCUSE but laziness and selfishness to not warn the team.
2) Check your team. Check classes and levels. Maybe the team you have in fornt is unable to do this dungeon without roles, maybe the tank is low level, or a new char withour skill points yet...IS MUCH BETTER to PROPOSE SWITCH TO DPS after YOU ARE SURE THAT HEALER IS NOT NEEDED BY THIOS CONCRETE TEAM. tHIS IS ALSO APPLICABLE TO SOME GLASS CANNON BUILDS, with no space to heals, and heavily reliant in third part healing. Maybe is not the most clever thing to bring into a pug. But his guy has the right because the system makes the possibe to garant him a dedicater healer.

3) AGAIN . DOnt assume alone that 3 dps is better here and now. It´s not your single decision, it´s a team decision. And give time to the other players to switch skilld or gear... Very often i see a suposed healer with a bow, and whne i run to equipa aself ehal, the guy is agroing the first wave of mobs, wanting to IMPOSE us all his presence... "Le´ts go fast and the will not notice..." Tey will when half the team is dead before the first boss. And this makes not the people happy.